The Comedian wrote: keevsnick1 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Just to give an idea of how cold Tatum started out the season, since the start of December, heâ€™s averaged 27.5 PPG on a 59% TSâ€¦.and heâ€™s still at 54% for the season.
The ISO thing has also become a bit more of a narrative than reality. When December started, Tatum was going ISO 23.5% of the time, and was averaging .80 PPP. Since then heâ€™s cut his ISO down to 19.5% of the time, and is up to .90 PPP. Better than guys like Luka, PG, Siakam, Trae (though Trae does it way less than the rest of the guys). LeBron is at .90 himself, Giannis and Randle are at .91 and both go ISO more than Tatum. And as of now, JT is in the 78th percentile in ISO PPP for the season.
Yeah some of his ISO possessions are frustrating, but it also draws multiple defenders and leads to open looks for other guys.
Where are you getting your numbers? NBA.com play type data has basically all the same numbers but it has him in the 51st percentile for iso scoring this year, not the 78th.
Regardless the point still mostly stands, iso'ing to much hasn't really been the teams problem this year. Its three point shooting and associated spacing that's the issue.
ISO scoring is broke down into multiple categories, bball indexâ€™s paid subscription shows each individual. For overall ISO heâ€™s in the 51st percentile, but for just iso PPP, heâ€™s in the 78th.
But the overall point was since the first month of the season, heâ€™s actually been quite good in ISO. Iâ€™d have to dig deeper, but Iâ€™d guess that since December 1st, heâ€™s been one of the better high volume iso scorers in the league, while also cutting down how often he goes ISO. Which makes sense, as heâ€™s picking his spots better. Where heâ€™s been actually bad is posting up, is in the 7th percentile for post up PPP. Makes sense, when posting he settles for crap fadeaways, and we have poor spacing ontop of it.
Ahhh okay, I can see how that would make sense. So as a question what's the difference between his ISO PP and the overall ISO? I assume that's just his PPP on shots/turnovers vs the team PPP off his Iso's. Which means either the team is making absolutely no shots off his iso passing, or he's passing it very little out of iso's, or both. In either case it would certainly help to get more shooters on the floor.
Either way, I'd still like to see him ISO less. Being "down" at 19.7% is nice, but its still the 6th highest in the league. I agree tho it isnt really the Celtics biggest problem.
I was surprised to see Jaylen Browns iso frequency at only 7.8% (2 times a game).
I think the Celtics problem is simple Last year they were 10th in offense, 10th in 3 point shooting. This year they are low 20's in offense, low 20's in 3 point shooting. Get shooters, play shooters, and the jays supposed ISO and passing issues will look better.