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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#281 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:35 pm

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In Tatum's case, it's more his penchant for holding the ball too long rather than the refusal to pass, which Ime pointed out in one of his interviews. Quicker decisions/reads from JT have made him more dangerous and our team offense more potent.


Well, yes. I said a week ago that Tatum needed to watch Kawhi Leonard tapes. Stop fiddling and diddling and do whatever you want to do immediately.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#282 » by Half-Full » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:07 pm

Has anyone heard anything about the new court design. There were some reports a couple of months ago, along with leaked images. One report had the new floor debuting in October in a game vs the Raptors. Clearly that did not happen. What gives?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.celticslife.com%2F2021%2F10%2Ffirst-look-at-celtics-new-home-court.html&psig=AOvVaw3WOzEOIF35HfbTfyx-lEmo&ust=1637611554940000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCLDJ5s2gqvQCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

I'm not particularly crazy about the design. Maybe it was sent back to the drawing board?
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#283 » by Larry_Russell » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:59 pm

Luke walton fired.

Might be a time to nab some kings players.
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Post#284 » by Hal14 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:35 pm

Not good news for the Grant haters:

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Post#285 » by Half-Full » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:47 pm

Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

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I did recently ask if any of the Grant haters had changed their minds based on his play this season. Clearly, it is not just the coaches that value what he brings to the court. His versatility, IQ, and communication are certainly valuable, and shooting the three at 43% is icing on the cake. All this he brings to the table while holding down the #9 position on the bench. What more could one ask for?
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Post#286 » by Hal14 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:26 pm

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Post#287 » by Jammer » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:12 am

What type of trade would it take to move Juancho Hernangomez or Bruno Fernando??

Errr, I guess, I mean, do they need a drunken sailor on the other end of the phone?? :D
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#289 » by Floody100 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:36 am

Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

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Grant’s going to be an awesome coach when he eventually retires.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#290 » by djFan71 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:48 am

Half-Full wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

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I did recently ask if any of the Grant haters had changed their minds based on his play this season. Clearly, it is not just the coaches that value what he brings to the court. His versatility, IQ, and communication are certainly valuable, and shooting the three at 43% is icing on the cake. All this he brings to the table while holding down the #9 position on the bench. What more could one ask for?

I hated fat, floor bound, out of position Grant last year. Love skinny Grant who coincidentally recovered his excellent defensive positioning. And is knocking down 3s. Also, hate him at 5. Love him as small ball 4.

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Cuz he can't play tall ball 4.... ba dum tis!

And, fat of course means "nba fat" not normal people fat.
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Post#291 » by Fierce1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:33 am

Grant can also keep up with PGs if there's a switch and he ends up guarding the opposing PG.

Looks like Grant and Romeo have solidified their spots in the rotation this season.

What the Celts need not is another big man.

I think for the Celts to beat teams like Philly and Milwaukee, Celts are going to need 3 big men who can defend and rebound.
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Post#292 » by Hal14 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:11 pm

Floody100 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

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Grant’s going to be an awesome coach when he eventually retires.

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me.
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Post#293 » by Hal14 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:14 pm

Jammer wrote:What type of trade would it take to move Juancho Hernangomez or Bruno Fernando??

Errr, I guess, I mean, do they need a drunken sailor on the other end of the phone?? :D

They both have basically zero trade value. We wouldn't get anything good in return.

You need to give up actual value in order to get good talent in return. Maybe if you take 1 of them and attach multiple draft picks, you might get something decent..
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Post#294 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:21 pm

People were traumatized by the Sully and Yabu experience so it took em long enough to appreciate what Grant can bring to the table (not dinner table).
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Post#295 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:30 pm

Small sample report...
Our normal starting lineup has outscored opponents by 19.5 pts per 100 possessions. Below average offensive rating with a defensive rating like you wouldn't believe.

Our starting lineup with Schroder and Grant instead of JB and TL has outscored opponents by 18.1 pts per 100 possessions. Good enough defensive rating with excellent offensive rating.

Both are in the 97th percentile in net rating. Around the same number of possessions so far (< 140).
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#296 » by The Comedian » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:19 pm

Over the last 9 games, Tatum averaging 29/9/4 on a 58% TS, and a net rating of +14. Smart also with a net rating of +14 over that time. That’s an insane number, considering it’s been without Jaylen for 8 of the 9 games.

This version of Tatum is an MVP caliber player, need him to keep up the effort off ball, and defensively.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#297 » by snowman » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:54 pm

Half-Full wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

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I did recently ask if any of the Grant haters had changed their minds based on his play this season. Clearly, it is not just the coaches that value what he brings to the court. His versatility, IQ, and communication are certainly valuable, and shooting the three at 43% is icing on the cake. All this he brings to the table while holding down the #9 position on the bench. What more could one ask for?


I will tip my hat (if I wore one) and PROUDLY eat some crow for my opinions on G. Will. He has turned into a decent role player, and a regular rotation player, one that I didn't think he had in him. GRANT WILLIAMS......I am sorry.

With that being said, I think there were a few of us, including me, that forgot about the "sophmore slump". 2nd year players seem to hit a wall, just like G. Will and Langford did last year and now they are regular rotation players. Let's make sure we don't treat Nesmith and Pritchard the same way, and give up on them to early. Let's wait until 20 games into their 3rd season before judging them, at least that's my plan.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#298 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:36 pm

snowman wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

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I did recently ask if any of the Grant haters had changed their minds based on his play this season. Clearly, it is not just the coaches that value what he brings to the court. His versatility, IQ, and communication are certainly valuable, and shooting the three at 43% is icing on the cake. All this he brings to the table while holding down the #9 position on the bench. What more could one ask for?


I will tip my hat (if I wore one) and PROUDLY eat some crow for my opinions on G. Will. He has turned into a decent role player, and a regular rotation player, one that I didn't think he had in him. GRANT WILLIAMS......I am sorry.

With that being said, I think there were a few of us, including me, that forgot about the "sophmore slump". 2nd year players seem to hit a wall, just like G. Will and Langford did last year and now they are regular rotation players. Let's make sure we don't treat Nesmith and Pritchard the same way, and give up on them to early. Let's wait until 20 games into their 3rd season before judging them, at least that's my plan.


you can't truly give up on them as long as they are Cs, but we also can't expect Ime to force them when they play terribly. we are trying to win. We want the people who are performing well to play, which doesn't mean we gave up on nee and pritch. If POBO brought Hunter back, deep down I would think he could still be good. :o

I'm not saying this as if it's about me, just in general, most folks are waiting. few people who never liked guys will speak up and some who like them will too, but pretty much all of us wish they turn out great.

s/n: I hear about most guys danny has drafted over the last few seasons after leaving the Cs, but I never hear about hunter, I need a "where are they now" episode!
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#299 » by La Flame » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:12 pm

snowman wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

Read on Twitter


I did recently ask if any of the Grant haters had changed their minds based on his play this season. Clearly, it is not just the coaches that value what he brings to the court. His versatility, IQ, and communication are certainly valuable, and shooting the three at 43% is icing on the cake. All this he brings to the table while holding down the #9 position on the bench. What more could one ask for?


I will tip my hat (if I wore one) and PROUDLY eat some crow for my opinions on G. Will. He has turned into a decent role player, and a regular rotation player, one that I didn't think he had in him. GRANT WILLIAMS......I am sorry.

With that being said, I think there were a few of us, including me, that forgot about the "sophmore slump". 2nd year players seem to hit a wall, just like G. Will and Langford did last year and now they are regular rotation players. Let's make sure we don't treat Nesmith and Pritchard the same way, and give up on them to early. Let's wait until 20 games into their 3rd season before judging them, at least that's my plan.


Yeah I've kinda grown on him now too. I regret all the "cant williams" posts I have and-1'd lmao, that corner 3 looks wet. He is a pretty smart player and looks like we have our PJ Tucker that's better on quicker guards and knows when to pass
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#300 » by SatchSanders » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:25 pm

snowman wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Not good news for the Grant haters:

Read on Twitter


I did recently ask if any of the Grant haters had changed their minds based on his play this season. Clearly, it is not just the coaches that value what he brings to the court. His versatility, IQ, and communication are certainly valuable, and shooting the three at 43% is icing on the cake. All this he brings to the table while holding down the #9 position on the bench. What more could one ask for?


I will tip my hat (if I wore one) and PROUDLY eat some crow for my opinions on G. Will. He has turned into a decent role player, and a regular rotation player, one that I didn't think he had in him. GRANT WILLIAMS......I am sorry.

With that being said, I think there were a few of us, including me, that forgot about the "sophmore slump". 2nd year players seem to hit a wall, just like G. Will and Langford did last year and now they are regular rotation players. Let's make sure we don't treat Nesmith and Pritchard the same way, and give up on them to early. Let's wait until 20 games into their 3rd season before judging them, at least that's my plan.


I think Nesmith will grow this season and be a solid contributor next, replacing Richardson. He needs to get a bit more under control defensively and understand the schemes better. Then the game will slow down for him and he can let his shot come forth. He's going to remain behind Langford in the pecking order though. Langford's much better defensively and more versatile offensively.

Brad must be looking for an opportunity to include Pritchard in a package for a talent. Would be nice to showcase him a bit before the deadline; some team may convince itself that he's on the Seth Curry trajectory (he's not).

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