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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#61 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 4:41 am

It's true that opposing teams are really daring Schroder, Smart, and Richardson to shoot the 3.

Schroder is just 30.4% from 3pt land.

Smart is at 28.3%.

And Richardson is 33.3%.

But only reason why Richardson is at 33% is because he made 4 out of 4 against Toronto.
If the Toronto game is not included, Richardson is only shooting 20% from 3pt land.
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Post#62 » by Triple7 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 6:27 am

Fierce1 wrote:It's true that opposing teams are really daring Schroder, Smart, and Richardson to shoot the 3.

Schroder is just 30.4% from 3pt land.

Smart is at 28.3%.

And Richardson is 33.3%.

But only reason why Richardson is at 33% is because he made 4 out of 4 against Toronto.
If the Toronto game is not included, Richardson is only shooting 20% from 3pt land.


I agre. Same arguement with Smart. He can have an anomaly and have really good shooting night. Usually once every 10-15 games, and it changes the percentages. Not to mention all the shots he misses when we truly need it, to secure a lead or finish a comeback. He can go 3/3 from 3 in the first half, and go 0/3 in the 4th where it matters, and still have a 50% shooting night lol.
Unreliable for a starting pg. That’s why we have problems closing out tight games, because we have unreliable shooters to finish games.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#63 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 8:32 am

Triple7 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's true that opposing teams are really daring Schroder, Smart, and Richardson to shoot the 3.

Schroder is just 30.4% from 3pt land.

Smart is at 28.3%.

And Richardson is 33.3%.

But only reason why Richardson is at 33% is because he made 4 out of 4 against Toronto.
If the Toronto game is not included, Richardson is only shooting 20% from 3pt land.


I agre. Same arguement with Smart. He can have an anomaly and have really good shooting night. Usually once every 10-15 games, and it changes the percentages. Not to mention all the shots he misses when we truly need it, to secure a lead or finish a comeback. He can go 3/3 from 3 in the first half, and go 0/3 in the 4th where it matters, and still have a 50% shooting night lol.
Unreliable for a starting pg. That’s why we have problems closing out tight games, because we have unreliable shooters to finish games.


So true.

I think that's what some of the Celtic fans don't realize.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread, 2nd Edition 

Post#64 » by poopship » Mon Nov 8, 2021 9:53 am

Fierce1 wrote:It's true that opposing teams are really daring Schroder, Smart, and Richardson to shoot the 3.

Schroder is just 30.4% from 3pt land.

Smart is at 28.3%.

And Richardson is 33.3%.

But only reason why Richardson is at 33% is because he made 4 out of 4 against Toronto.
If the Toronto game is not included, Richardson is only shooting 20% from 3pt land.


Yeah, lets not include shots that go in. It will absolutely make the stat more accurate if we don't.
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Post#65 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:49 pm

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Big Al is so important.
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Post#66 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:35 pm

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Big Al is so important.


True.

If Brad can add some shooting, this Celts team will end up having a deep playoff run.

Big Al will be the difference maker in the playoffs.
He's just so solid on both ends of the floor.
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Post#67 » by playa-hater » Mon Nov 8, 2021 7:51 pm

M Bridges quote on why he has improved.

According to Bridges, a key to his major improvement is that the Hornets’ coaching staff and his teammates “believe and trust in him.” That has helped him feel comfortable to play freely and aggressively.

Something that if you never really played BBall on a good level you will underestimate or NOT recognize at all. What Boston does to Nesmith is opposite of this.. sometimes he gets "mind f*cked with all his miss shots, sit.. while Vets continue to shoot bad = keep playing.
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Post#68 » by playa-hater » Mon Nov 8, 2021 7:54 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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Big Al is so important.


True.

If Brad can add some shooting, this Celts team will end up having a deep playoff run.

Big Al will be the difference maker in the playoffs.
He's just so solid on both ends of the floor.


or use, believe in and develop
the ones you have.. Nesmith, PP, Romeo and Hauser..
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Post#69 » by jmr07019 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 8:17 pm

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Big Al is so important.


Wow. That is a jarring stat. How do we make the defense better when Horford sits? Maybe we bring Smart off the bench and put a shooter with the starters?
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Post#70 » by Half-Full » Mon Nov 8, 2021 9:00 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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Big Al is so important.


True.

If Brad can add some shooting, this Celts team will end up having a deep playoff run.

Big Al will be the difference maker in the playoffs.
He's just so solid on both ends of the floor.


or use, believe in and develop
the ones you have.. Nesmith, PP, Romeo and Hauser..


It's almost criminal that the young guys have not been played much. How will we ever know what we have if they aren't given the chance to show us? Or have they already decided they are nothing more than borderline players?
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Post#71 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Nov 9, 2021 12:30 pm

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Post#72 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Nov 9, 2021 5:36 pm

So one of the most hated pairings in the history of the franchise has actually been... Good for the team?

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Post#73 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Tue Nov 9, 2021 6:09 pm

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Jaylen is the better player.

Tatum has the Carmelo effect. It's fools gold. Looks great, gets wins just enough to keep you interested, but can't take you to the finish line.

No clue if Jaylen as #1 option would be any better but, there's not much we can do about it now.

Selling off either of them is stupid and won't return much. Keeping them together and AL healthy enough to contend and make a fitting roster of shooters and playmakers around them hasn't worked yet.

This team just isn't very fun, but has so many interesting pieces that just don't fit together well unless al horford is on the floor.
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Post#74 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Nov 9, 2021 7:41 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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Jaylen is the better player.

Tatum has the Carmelo effect. It's fools gold. Looks great, gets wins just enough to keep you interested, but can't take you to the finish line.

No clue if Jaylen as #1 option would be any better but, there's not much we can do about it now.

Selling off either of them is stupid and won't return much. Keeping them together and AL healthy enough to contend and make a fitting roster of shooters and playmakers around them hasn't worked yet.

This team just isn't very fun, but has so many interesting pieces that just don't fit together well unless al horford is on the floor.

Celtics are going to make a huge mistake if they move either Tatum or Brown. Need patience to get the right pieces around them.
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Post#75 » by Parliament10 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:47 am

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Post#76 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:47 pm

poopship wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's true that opposing teams are really daring Schroder, Smart, and Richardson to shoot the 3.

Schroder is just 30.4% from 3pt land.

Smart is at 28.3%.

And Richardson is 33.3%.

But only reason why Richardson is at 33% is because he made 4 out of 4 against Toronto.
If the Toronto game is not included, Richardson is only shooting 20% from 3pt land.


Yeah, lets not include shots that go in. It will absolutely make the stat more accurate if we don't.


I mean if you just take away all the ones that go in he's shooting 0% from 3 and that's pretty bad.
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Post#77 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 pm

Bad-Thoma wrote:
poopship wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's true that opposing teams are really daring Schroder, Smart, and Richardson to shoot the 3.

Schroder is just 30.4% from 3pt land.

Smart is at 28.3%.

And Richardson is 33.3%.

But only reason why Richardson is at 33% is because he made 4 out of 4 against Toronto.
If the Toronto game is not included, Richardson is only shooting 20% from 3pt land.


Yeah, lets not include shots that go in. It will absolutely make the stat more accurate if we don't.


I mean if you just take away all the ones that go in he's shooting 0% from 3 and that's pretty bad.


I don't understand why both of you can't admit that those 3 players are really not shooting the ball well.
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Post#78 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:47 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Bad-Thoma wrote:
poopship wrote:
Yeah, lets not include shots that go in. It will absolutely make the stat more accurate if we don't.


I mean if you just take away all the ones that go in he's shooting 0% from 3 and that's pretty bad.


I don't understand why both of you can't admit that those 3 players are really not shooting the ball well.


Who didn't admit that? They are all shooting poorly from 3 at a minimum. But their %'s are definitely higher when you count all their made shots.
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Post#79 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:51 pm

Bad-Thoma wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
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I mean if you just take away all the ones that go in he's shooting 0% from 3 and that's pretty bad.


I don't understand why both of you can't admit that those 3 players are really not shooting the ball well.


Who didn't admit that? They are all shooting poorly from 3 at a minimum. But their %'s are definitely higher when you count all their made shots.


Richardson is the only one where I said he would shoot 20% if he didn't go 4 out of 4 in the Toronto game.

All of the shots of Smart and Schroder were counted.
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Post#80 » by Bad-Thoma » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:33 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Bad-Thoma wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
I don't understand why both of you can't admit that those 3 players are really not shooting the ball well.


Who didn't admit that? They are all shooting poorly from 3 at a minimum. But their %'s are definitely higher when you count all their made shots.


Richardson is the only one where I said he would shoot 20% if he didn't go 4 out of 4 in the Toronto game.

All of the shots of Smart and Schroder were counted.


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