Grant Williams Thread

[ddb]

Grant has been outstanding for this team. The sample size is large enough now to where he's officially a good player and not a flash in the pan. Lock him up this summer with an extension.

[playa-hater]

If Grant doesn't get the 50-40-90 mark this season, it is a failure.. just do it!!!

he came about as close as you can possibly come to it.

Worth noting that you look at the other guys who had a 50-40-90 season and most of them aren't so good defensively.

I don't think anyone has ever had a 50-40-90 season and made all defense in the same season. This year Grant came probably as close as anyone ever to having a 50-40-90 season and making all defense.

Larry Bird may have. 2nd all defensive team not first but whatever.

[Parliament10]

If Grant doesn't get the 50-40-90 mark this season, it is a failure.. just do it!!!

he came about as close as you can possibly come to it.

Worth noting that you look at the other guys who had a 50-40-90 season and most of them aren't so good defensively.

I don't think anyone has ever had a 50-40-90 season and made all defense in the same season. This year Grant came probably as close as anyone ever to having a 50-40-90 season and making all defense.

He's doing pretty good in the Playoffs too. 52-55-83.
I mean 55% from 3. That's amazing by itself.

[Hal14]

If Grant doesn't get the 50-40-90 mark this season, it is a failure.. just do it!!!

he came about as close as you can possibly come to it.

Worth noting that you look at the other guys who had a 50-40-90 season and most of them aren't so good defensively.

I don't think anyone has ever had a 50-40-90 season and made all defense in the same season. This year Grant came probably as close as anyone ever to having a 50-40-90 season and making all defense.

Larry Bird may have. 2nd all defensive team not first but whatever.

I checked. Bird's first 50/40/90 season was a few years after his last time on the all defense team.

[31to6]

I felt nothing but disappointment when we drafted this guy. Then he started talking and sounded interesting, and started working on his shot and defending and looked interesting, and now --- I don't know what to think. My mind reels trying to come up with a comparison for Grant. Have we had a guy like this? Play-style-wise, the comparison will always be PJ Tucker, and that's fine. But he's trending -- dare I say? -- above that in terms of career arc/impact. Who else was drafted low-first, was a small big, a beautifully versatile defender, a knock-down shooter (or not), and emerged as a starter-level player on a contender?

I mean, and may he rest in peace, Reggie Lewis kind of had that career arc, if not play-style comparison, though Reggie became an All-Star and I don't think(?) Grant will do that. I don't think we should say Rodman since he's one of the most unique stars in the history of the sport. I mean... (and I just physically checked my face to see if I'm wearing green glasses) ... Tony Parker? Did we get that **** lucky with this guy?

Probably not. For that Grant would really need to make something of himself off the dribble, and he's shown some things that could be considered 'signs' of that, but I'm still skeptical. That said, I never thought he'd be a 3pt marksman, so I don't want to say anything's off the table just yet for this 23-year-old. [just checked, Tony Parker made his first of 6 all-star teams at age 23, so I'm probably slandering him a bit -- I welcome other comparisons!]

[31to6]

(I'm sure Sean Grande and Zoya have already tweeted this out a lot but)
as of today, Grant Williams has the highest career playoff 3pt% in NBA history (56%) and it's not even close:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg3_pct_career_p.html

[165bows]

I felt nothing but disappointment when we drafted this guy. Then he started talking and sounded interesting, and started working on his shot and defending and looked interesting, and now --- I don't know what to think. My mind reels trying to come up with a comparison for Grant. Have we had a guy like this? Play-style-wise, the comparison will always be PJ Tucker, and that's fine. But he's trending -- dare I say? -- above that in terms of career arc/impact. Who else was drafted low-first, was a small big, a beautifully versatile defender, a knock-down shooter (or not), and emerged as a starter-level player on a contender?

I mean, and may he rest in peace, Reggie Lewis kind of had that career arc, if not play-style comparison, though Reggie became an All-Star and I don't think(?) Grant will do that. I don't think we should say Rodman since he's one of the most unique stars in the history of the sport. I mean... (and I just physically checked my face to see if I'm wearing green glasses) ... Tony Parker? Did we get that **** lucky with this guy?

Probably not. For that Grant would really need to make something of himself off the dribble, and he's shown some things that could be considered 'signs' of that, but I'm still skeptical. That said, I never thought he'd be a 3pt marksman, so I don't want to say anything's off the table just yet for this 23-year-old. [just checked, Tony Parker made his first of 6 all-star teams at age 23, so I'm probably slandering him a bit -- I welcome other comparisons!]

I don't want to get all hot under the collar but he's trending in the "short Robert Horry" direction which is pretty damn exciting.

[jfs1000d]

Grant has been outstanding for this team. The sample size is large enough now to where he's officially a good player and not a flash in the pan. Lock him up this summer with an extension.

This guy is a high-level player. People been complaining for three years about Matheyse Thybulle. Give me a break. I take Williams any day of the week. He's a terrific role player, bench big an a versatile defender who doesn't make mistakes.

I have no idea why Carsen Edwards' shooting didn't translate. But, another iwn for Ainge. He missed on Nesmith and Langford. That's what hurts. But he hit on Grant and PP.

[Parliament10]

I felt nothing but disappointment when we drafted this guy. Then he started talking and sounded interesting, and started working on his shot and defending and looked interesting, and now --- I don't know what to think. My mind reels trying to come up with a comparison for Grant. Have we had a guy like this? Play-style-wise, the comparison will always be PJ Tucker, and that's fine. But he's trending -- dare I say? -- above that in terms of career arc/impact. Who else was drafted low-first, was a small big, a beautifully versatile defender, a knock-down shooter (or not), and emerged as a starter-level player on a contender?

I mean, and may he rest in peace, Reggie Lewis kind of had that career arc, if not play-style comparison, though Reggie became an All-Star and I don't think(?) Grant will do that. I don't think we should say Rodman since he's one of the most unique stars in the history of the sport. I mean... (and I just physically checked my face to see if I'm wearing green glasses) ... Tony Parker? Did we get that **** lucky with this guy?

Probably not. For that Grant would really need to make something of himself off the dribble, and he's shown some things that could be considered 'signs' of that, but I'm still skeptical. That said, I never thought he'd be a 3pt marksman, so I don't want to say anything's off the table just yet for this 23-year-old. [just checked, Tony Parker made his first of 6 all-star teams at age 23, so I'm probably slandering him a bit -- I welcome other comparisons!]

I don't want to get all hot under the collar but he's trending in the "short Robert Horry" direction which is pretty damn exciting.

That IS good. Horry -- slipping under the radar -- has 7 rings.

[ddb]

Grant has been outstanding for this team. The sample size is large enough now to where he's officially a good player and not a flash in the pan. Lock him up this summer with an extension.

This guy is a high-level player. People been complaining for three years about Matheyse Thybulle. Give me a break. I take Williams any day of the week. He's a terrific role player, bench big an a versatile defender who doesn't make mistakes.

I have no idea why Carsen Edwards' shooting didn't translate. But, another iwn for Ainge. He missed on Nesmith and Langford. That's what hurts. But he hit on Grant and PP.

Missed on Romeo. Home run on Grant. Payton Pritchard has been a solid pick. I'm willing to give Nesmith 1 more season....Let's see if he can break through in year 3

[playa-hater]

I felt nothing but disappointment when we drafted this guy. Then he started talking and sounded interesting, and started working on his shot and defending and looked interesting, and now --- I don't know what to think. My mind reels trying to come up with a comparison for Grant. Have we had a guy like this? Play-style-wise, the comparison will always be PJ Tucker, and that's fine. But he's trending -- dare I say? -- above that in terms of career arc/impact. Who else was drafted low-first, was a small big, a beautifully versatile defender, a knock-down shooter (or not), and emerged as a starter-level player on a contender?

I mean, and may he rest in peace, Reggie Lewis kind of had that career arc, if not play-style comparison, though Reggie became an All-Star and I don't think(?) Grant will do that. I don't think we should say Rodman since he's one of the most unique stars in the history of the sport. I mean... (and I just physically checked my face to see if I'm wearing green glasses) ... Tony Parker? Did we get that **** lucky with this guy?

Probably not. For that Grant would really need to make something of himself off the dribble, and he's shown some things that could be considered 'signs' of that, but I'm still skeptical. That said, I never thought he'd be a 3pt marksman, so I don't want to say anything's off the table just yet for this 23-year-old. [just checked, Tony Parker made his first of 6 all-star teams at age 23, so I'm probably slandering him a bit -- I welcome other comparisons!]

I don't want to get all hot under the collar but he's trending in the "short Robert Horry" direction which is pretty damn exciting.

a "short R Horry is reasonable. I will still stick with a higher level PJ Tucker ceiling though.

*One thing Horry was was an incredible clutch shooter. Grant needs more time to see this happen for him.

[playa-hater]

I am still baffled how the "league" still leaves Grant so wide open. Yes I know the fear of Tatum ect.. but still.

[PierceFan4ever]

Where would the Celtics be without grant? He does his role sooo well. The defense, the ability to hit threes, obviously a great teammate. He’s been so huge for the Celtics all season and definitely a reason why the Celtics have improved so much. Contenders would kill to have a player like Grant on their team.

[bisme37]

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[hugepatsfan]

I've always said his max ceiling is PJ Tucker in terms of the 3&D with some Boris Diaw offensive wrinkles thrown in there. He can attack close outs and make good passes within the offense, which is where I see the Boris Diaw in his game.

[Feed Your Head]

Dudes going to get PAID.

[BillessuR6]

He was my binky in the draft and was really excited we got him. Before this season I had him at least as a better offense/worse defense PJ Tucker down the line but did not expect him to be this good this early. He is already much better offensive player than Tucker ever was but defensively he has been the biggest revelation. Never expected him to be so good against guys like Durant and Giannis, the premium players in the NBA.

Now, I am just worried he will command too much money... What do you guys think would be a fair extension for him in the summer?

[jordb2k7]

Grant has been outstanding for this team. The sample size is large enough now to where he's officially a good player and not a flash in the pan. Lock him up this summer with an extension.

This guy is a high-level player. People been complaining for three years about Matheyse Thybulle. Give me a break. I take Williams any day of the week. He's a terrific role player, bench big an a versatile defender who doesn't make mistakes.

I have no idea why Carsen Edwards' shooting didn't translate. But, another iwn for Ainge. He missed on Nesmith and Langford. That's what hurts. But he hit on Grant and PP.

Not that this is too important but Carsen Edwards wasn't a great shooter in college either. His average was .368 which would be about average/slightly above in the pros. With his size he was going to need to be a 40% shooter to have a consistent job.

Nesmith deserves a little more time but he has to show up next year. He's not going to stay in the league at this rate. His shooting from college to pros concerns me in that it was a small sample size. He needs consistent minutes that aren't easy to get on a team like this, he's gotta earn it. We will see if he does next year. I want him to work out badly.

[playa-hater]

He was my binky in the draft and was really excited we got him. Before this season I had him at least as a better offense/worse defense PJ Tucker down the line but did not expect him to be this good this early. He is already much better offensive player than Tucker ever was but defensively he has been the biggest revelation. Never expected him to be so good against guys like Durant and Giannis, the premium players in the NBA.

Now, I am just worried he will command too much money... What do you guys think would be a fair extension for him in the summer?

I am hoping other teams don't value him as much as we do. But it only takes on to jack up his price. Flip side is he is not a starter and perhaps we can get him for 4 years at 50 million neighborhood.

[ConstableGeneva]

Would you even trade him for Anthony Davis at this point??!