Green89 wrote:We have more talent than our record shows, and teams with much lesser talent have better records than us. That's definitely reflective of the coaching staff.
this is exactly what the problem is IMO.
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Green89 wrote:We have more talent than our record shows, and teams with much lesser talent have better records than us. That's definitely reflective of the coaching staff.
bisme37 wrote:I'm not trying to fire him but I gotta admit I would not be mad about it. Guess I'm just in a **** it mood today haha. I'm glad I'm not the one in charge of deciding what it is but it seems like something ought to happen.
The Comedian wrote:bisme37 wrote:I'm not trying to fire him but I gotta admit I would not be mad about it. Guess I'm just in a **** it mood today haha. I'm glad I'm not the one in charge of deciding what it is but it seems like something ought to happen.
The optics would be really bad for the Jay’s.
NuckyPowell wrote:The team's just not that talented. Danny drafted somewhat poorly in recent years, and let a hell of a lot of talent just walk while getting little to nothing in return. I wouldn't pull the plug on Ime this early. I don't think he's been egregiously bad, although late game execution is atrocious. I think he at least gets to start out with the team next year. After that, we'll see. Some coaches are just bad, and sometimes coaches take the fall for crappy rosters. Our roster has fallen to Indiana/Portland territory, with no extra picks or cap space to become better. Not a good place to be. I'd bet good money that at least one of Tatum or Brown will not be here to the end of their present contract.
The Comedian wrote:A small part of this is Ime’s rotations, but mostly it’s just bad health and covid. You can’t judge Ime on this season so far, c’mon lol. I’m not saying he’s great, or even good, but we just don’t know anything yet.
The Comedian wrote:A small part of this is Ime’s rotations, but mostly it’s just bad health and covid. You can’t judge Ime on this season so far, c’mon lol. I’m not saying he’s great, or even good, but we just don’t know anything yet.
Manocad wrote:I have an engineering degree, an exceptionally high IQ, and can point to the exact location/area of any country on an unlabeled globe.
Bleeding Green wrote:The Comedian wrote:A small part of this is Ime’s rotations, but mostly it’s just bad health and covid. You can’t judge Ime on this season so far, c’mon lol. I’m not saying he’s great, or even good, but we just don’t know anything yet.
The two highest usage players are completely incapable of making a play for another teammate and they both operate out of the midrange (and neither in an efficient manner), an area that the NBA decided to avoid a decade ago because they all realized they aren't Michael Jordan or Dirk Nowitzki. And we have people who want to fire the new coach after a few games, as if the 'rotations' matter.
The Corey's wrote:Have to atleast give him 2 seasons.
But it's discouraging that he wanted this job and Smart and the core wanted him and that this is the results thus far.
Triple7 wrote:The Corey's wrote:Have to atleast give him 2 seasons.
But it's discouraging that he wanted this job and Smart and the core wanted him and that this is the results thus far.
That’s too long if you have a mediocre of a coach. The team would continue to have problems with chemistry, leadership and identity. Next thing we know, Brown, then Tatum would want out. Of course IMe wants this job. No one’s offering him anything. He left the Spurs and bounced off two assistant gigs with the Sixers and Nets. If he was really good, then some team would have offered him something. The players wanted him because of their relationship last world basketball stint. The players wanted someone that’s buddy buddy with them, and not someone that can actually lead them. This team needed a leader and not someone who is still learning the ropes. What’s there to learn??? He has been an assistant for almost a decade now. I don’t think he gets fired this season, unless we go on a 5-7 games losing streak, and totally miss the playoffs. He is closer to being a Thibs, than being a Pop. More like a coach that would run his players to the ground.
The Corey's wrote:Triple7 wrote:The Corey's wrote:Have to atleast give him 2 seasons.
But it's discouraging that he wanted this job and Smart and the core wanted him and that this is the results thus far.
That’s too long if you have a mediocre of a coach. The team would continue to have problems with chemistry, leadership and identity. Next thing we know, Brown, then Tatum would want out. Of course IMe wants this job. No one’s offering him anything. He left the Spurs and bounced off two assistant gigs with the Sixers and Nets. If he was really good, then some team would have offered him something. The players wanted him because of their relationship last world basketball stint. The players wanted someone that’s buddy buddy with them, and not someone that can actually lead them. This team needed a leader and not someone who is still learning the ropes. What’s there to learn??? He has been an assistant for almost a decade now. I don’t think he gets fired this season, unless we go on a 5-7 games losing streak, and totally miss the playoffs. He is closer to being a Thibs, than being a Pop. More like a coach that would run his players to the ground.
There's no way Ime is fired before they make catastrophic changes to the roster. Changes come first then he's fired.
I can't imagine the **** that is firing Ime after 1 year but keeping the same core. It's enough to walk away from this franchise completely.
fallguy wrote:Bleeding Green wrote:The Comedian wrote:A small part of this is Ime’s rotations, but mostly it’s just bad health and covid. You can’t judge Ime on this season so far, c’mon lol. I’m not saying he’s great, or even good, but we just don’t know anything yet.
The two highest usage players are completely incapable of making a play for another teammate and they both operate out of the midrange (and neither in an efficient manner), an area that the NBA decided to avoid a decade ago because they all realized they aren't Michael Jordan or Dirk Nowitzki. And we have people who want to fire the new coach after a few games, as if the 'rotations' matter.
This just isn't true. Anyone watching the games knows this isn't true. Both JT and JB have made progress as playmakers. We miss an incredible number of shots.
Manocad wrote:I have an engineering degree, an exceptionally high IQ, and can point to the exact location/area of any country on an unlabeled globe.
djFan71 wrote:Ime is gonna look like such a good coach in January.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
dans1230 wrote:I dont buy the covid excuse, every team has been dealing with that, its a menatality that this team has. They looked the same against the Bucks on Christmas as they did against the T Wolves g-league team a couple days later. They cant hold a lead and they cant overcome a manageable deficit towards the end of a game. That to me is coaching.
No doubt roster changes need to happen, id like to see the J's broken up, and sure the results could be different if health on the team was different. I dont think anything gets accomplished by firing a first year coach midseason when the team is mediocre to begin with. Give him a full year then reflect at the end. Coaching has a learning curve, perhaps he can figure it out.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.