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Re: Hot Sweaty Roller Coaster Ride From Hell! ECF Game 3 Loss 5/21 (MIA 2-1) 

Post#321 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:30 pm

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He showed in game 2 he is capable of being that guy who plays hard on offense and tries to penetrate.

He didn't even try in this game.

He is not a mental midget.
He is a spoiled player.


Spoiled player??? What does that even mean lol?
He gets frustrated easy with the no calls. He doesn’t show up consistently. If his shot ain’t falling, he shrinks away? What do you call that? That’s all mental. He can hang with the very best on both ends, but he gets affected by something not going his way easy. Like game 6 against the bucks, his shot were falling, and he carried us in the clutch, but if his shot is off, he doesn’t do other stuff to help his team in some way, he even adds to the problem with lazy passes, lazy defense, and constant complaining. Just look at luka. That guy never shy away when it gets tough. I really thought this was the time Tatum ascends. It could still be, but he can’t have performances like this evry other game or two. 10pts in 40mins??? He could score that in his sleep in 1 quarter. This is purely mental!



It's funny how you ask what a spoiled player is, then describing it yourself.

He succeeded way too fast (got to the ECF 3 times and he is 24).

No sense of urgency whatsoever.
Look at Tucker, who played in Israel.
Look at Butler, who was a homeless for a short period as a teen.

I can imagine them playing bad.
What I can't imagine, is them not having that sense of urgency.


Well they shat on themselves. That’s the only way I would describe game 3. Heat came out and they couldn’t take their punch. Panicked like scared little children. That was pathetic.
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Post#322 » by Triple7 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:31 pm

Setshot33 wrote:After getting past the Bucks and their size in the paint, you'd think Tatum would realize he's freed up to drive vs these Heat players.

Wonder where his head is at? It surely isn't in the game.

"We played like a bunch of women tonight"-Larry Bird

Larry's words would fit Tatum's performance.


Exactly my point. It’s all in his head at this point. He has the talent, and he showed several times he can carry the team. I don’t know why he isn’t playing with urgency. True great players would do anything to win. Let’s see what he does.
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Post#323 » by MagicBagley18 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:32 pm

First and foremost most ; Tatum sucked. He was terrible. so bad so bad. Jaylen almost willed us back credit to him- that 3 he hit to cut it to 1 was huge and so clutch. Thought we had it there for a second.

The Celtics are gonna respond on Monday and this series will be 2-2 in Miami for game 5. Some of you guys here are soft as **** tho. It’s one thing to call out Tatum when he sucked and he did but he’s soft now? no stones? You dumb **** remember game 6 in Milwaukee?

Now the team is mentally weak again? they’ve been down in a series 4 times this playoffs and responded well every single time- maybe give them some benefit of the doubt until they actually don’t respond? the heat are a team as physical and as tough as us and one of the few that are actually better coached than us.....this **** isn’t supposed to be easy.

SAWFT **** from such a “iconic” fan base. 2-2 after monday. Shame.
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Re: Hot Sweaty Roller Coaster Ride From Hell! ECF Game 3 Loss 5/21 (MIA 2-1) 

Post#324 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:33 pm

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Spoiled player??? What does that even mean lol?
He gets frustrated easy with the no calls. He doesn’t show up consistently. If his shot ain’t falling, he shrinks away? What do you call that? That’s all mental. He can hang with the very best on both ends, but he gets affected by something not going his way easy. Like game 6 against the bucks, his shot were falling, and he carried us in the clutch, but if his shot is off, he doesn’t do other stuff to help his team in some way, he even adds to the problem with lazy passes, lazy defense, and constant complaining. Just look at luka. That guy never shy away when it gets tough. I really thought this was the time Tatum ascends. It could still be, but he can’t have performances like this evry other game or two. 10pts in 40mins??? He could score that in his sleep in 1 quarter. This is purely mental!



It's funny how you ask what a spoiled player is, then describing it yourself.

He succeeded way too fast (got to the ECF 3 times and he is 24).

No sense of urgency whatsoever.
Look at Tucker, who played in Israel.
Look at Butler, who was a homeless for a short period as a teen.

I can imagine them playing bad.
What I can't imagine, is them not having that sense of urgency.


Nah! We have a different definition of what spoiled means. I disagree. I don’t think getting to the conf finals several times count as success. Guys like Kobe, Wade, magic won way way early in their career. In fact, you would have thought he learned already from losing in the conf finals several times. He is not spoiled! Let’s just agree to disagree on that. He needs to show up. He has the talent obviously. It’s all mental at this point.


That stat line is awful. There’s a reason why media pundits are holding out on calling Tatum a superstar and a guy capable of leading a team to the title. It’s not for a lack of a team. The guy didn’t show up.
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Re: Hot Sweaty Roller Coaster Ride From Hell! ECF Game 3 Loss 5/21 (MIA 2-1) 

Post#325 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:36 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:First and foremost most ; Tatum sucked. He was terrible. so bad so bad. Jaylen almost willed us back credit to him- that 3 he hit to cut it to 1 was huge and so clutch. Thought we had it there for a second.

The Celtics are gonna respond on Monday and this series will be 2-2 in Miami for game 5. Some of you guys here are soft as **** tho. It’s one thing to call out Tatum when he sucked and he did but he’s soft now? no stones? You dumb **** remember game 6 in Milwaukee?

Now the team is mentally weak again? they’ve been down in a series 4 times this playoffs and responded well every single time- maybe give them some benefit of the doubt until they actually don’t respond? the heat are a team as physical and as tough as us and one of the few that are actually better coached than us.....this **** isn’t supposed to be easy.

SAWFT **** from such a “iconic” fan base. 2-2 after monday. Shame.


Dude they can’t keep going to the same well everytime. Eventually they will get burned by it. How do you put up such a lame lazy lackadaisical performance like that? They let the game get from them in the first quarter!!!!! It’s one thing if it’s late into the fourth quarter.
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Post#326 » by MagicBagley18 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:42 pm

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:First and foremost most ; Tatum sucked. He was terrible. so bad so bad. Jaylen almost willed us back credit to him- that 3 he hit to cut it to 1 was huge and so clutch. Thought we had it there for a second.

The Celtics are gonna respond on Monday and this series will be 2-2 in Miami for game 5. Some of you guys here are soft as **** tho. It’s one thing to call out Tatum when he sucked and he did but he’s soft now? no stones? You dumb **** remember game 6 in Milwaukee?

Now the team is mentally weak again? they’ve been down in a series 4 times this playoffs and responded well every single time- maybe give them some benefit of the doubt until they actually don’t respond? the heat are a team as physical and as tough as us and one of the few that are actually better coached than us.....this **** isn’t supposed to be easy.

SAWFT **** from such a “iconic” fan base. 2-2 after monday. Shame.


Dude they can’t keep going to the same well everytime. Eventually they will get burned by it. How do you put up such a lame lazy lackadaisical performance like that? They let the game get from them in the first quarter!!!!! It’s one thing if it’s late into the fourth quarter.


The same way the heat let game 2 get away from them early. This **** isn’t easy. A bunch of panic and non sense in here. Crying like a bunch of little bitches. Tatum blew. The team blew. Shake it off and respond on Monday. Idiots make this seem like it’s supposed to be easy- we are playing for the finals.

Did brown look mentally weak trying to carry us back? did smart look mentally weak coming back into the game? was Tatum mentally Weak having an all time game 6 performance against an iconic all time great to keep our season alive?

You can criticize this team for talent stuff and at times lack of execution but the only mentally weak stuff about the Celtics right now is the fan base. Criticism is fine, they deserve that but these blanket statements and hot takes after loss? shut up.

Sack the **** up and get ready for Monday.
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Post#327 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun May 22, 2022 12:51 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
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MagicBagley18 wrote:First and foremost most ; Tatum sucked. He was terrible. so bad so bad. Jaylen almost willed us back credit to him- that 3 he hit to cut it to 1 was huge and so clutch. Thought we had it there for a second.

The Celtics are gonna respond on Monday and this series will be 2-2 in Miami for game 5. Some of you guys here are soft as **** tho. It’s one thing to call out Tatum when he sucked and he did but he’s soft now? no stones? You dumb **** remember game 6 in Milwaukee?

Now the team is mentally weak again? they’ve been down in a series 4 times this playoffs and responded well every single time- maybe give them some benefit of the doubt until they actually don’t respond? the heat are a team as physical and as tough as us and one of the few that are actually better coached than us.....this **** isn’t supposed to be easy.

SAWFT **** from such a “iconic” fan base. 2-2 after monday. Shame.


Dude they can’t keep going to the same well everytime. Eventually they will get burned by it. How do you put up such a lame lazy lackadaisical performance like that? They let the game get from them in the first quarter!!!!! It’s one thing if it’s late into the fourth quarter.


The same way the heat let game 2 get away from them early. This **** isn’t easy. A bunch of panic and non sense in here. Crying like a bunch of little bitches. Tatum blew. The team blew. Shake it off and respond on Monday. Idiots make this seem like it’s supposed to be easy- we are playing for the finals.

Did brown look mentally weak trying to carry us back? did smart look mentally weak coming back into the game? was Tatum mentally Weak having an all time game 6 performance against an iconic all time great to keep our season alive?

You can criticize this team for talent stuff and at times lack of execution but the only mentally weak stuff about the Celtics right now is the fan base. Criticism is fine, they deserve but these blanket statements and hot takes after loss? shut up.

Sack the **** up and get ready for Monday.



What blanket statements man? They had a chance to take grip of this series by winning game 3 and setting themselves up for game 4 instead once against their backs are up against the wall. You can’t keep having these flat performances game in and game out. Also comparing the heat’s flat performance is ridiculous. The heat have at least been to a nba finals. They get the benefit of the doubt. This group has lost two consecutive eastern conference finals . What this group hasn’t developed is that championship mentality.
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Post#328 » by MagicBagley18 » Sun May 22, 2022 1:02 pm

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
Dude they can’t keep going to the same well everytime. Eventually they will get burned by it. How do you put up such a lame lazy lackadaisical performance like that? They let the game get from them in the first quarter!!!!! It’s one thing if it’s late into the fourth quarter.


The same way the heat let game 2 get away from them early. This **** isn’t easy. A bunch of panic and non sense in here. Crying like a bunch of little bitches. Tatum blew. The team blew. Shake it off and respond on Monday. Idiots make this seem like it’s supposed to be easy- we are playing for the finals.

Did brown look mentally weak trying to carry us back? did smart look mentally weak coming back into the game? was Tatum mentally Weak having an all time game 6 performance against an iconic all time great to keep our season alive?

You can criticize this team for talent stuff and at times lack of execution but the only mentally weak stuff about the Celtics right now is the fan base. Criticism is fine, they deserve but these blanket statements and hot takes after loss? shut up.

Sack the **** up and get ready for Monday.



What blanket statements man? They had a chance to take grip of this series by winning game 3 and setting themselves up for game 4 instead once against their backs are up against the wall. You can’t keep having these flat performances game in and game out. Also comparing the heat’s flat performance is ridiculous. The heat have at least been to a nba finals. They get the benefit of the doubt. This group has lost two consecutive eastern conference finals . What this group hasn’t developed is that championship mentality.


“Tatum is soft” “team is weak” even your line at the end of your post etc. just read this thread......the heat get no benefit of the doubt. They were undefeated at home in the playoffs blew us out game 1 and got rail roaded in game 2 and then responded to that beat down.....just like we can and have all playoffs.

You ask what blanket statements and then end your post with “this team doesn’t have championship mentality”....u know this how? series is over? Are we eliminated? can we not still make the finals? This team won’t have a championship mentality when they can no longer win a championship this season- and we are eliminated.

Everything they want is still in front of them. Did you think they’d go 3-1 to finish the series against Milwaukee? or back to back wins down 3-2? get out of here with that ****. Again, it’s a terrible loss but it’s 1 loss. out of all the Celtics team we’ve had since like 2012 this one deserves some benefit of the doubt.

Instead we get panic. how about let’s see how they respond Monday?
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Post#329 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun May 22, 2022 1:17 pm

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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
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The same way the heat let game 2 get away from them early. This **** isn’t easy. A bunch of panic and non sense in here. Crying like a bunch of little bitches. Tatum blew. The team blew. Shake it off and respond on Monday. Idiots make this seem like it’s supposed to be easy- we are playing for the finals.

Did brown look mentally weak trying to carry us back? did smart look mentally weak coming back into the game? was Tatum mentally Weak having an all time game 6 performance against an iconic all time great to keep our season alive?

You can criticize this team for talent stuff and at times lack of execution but the only mentally weak stuff about the Celtics right now is the fan base. Criticism is fine, they deserve but these blanket statements and hot takes after loss? shut up.

Sack the **** up and get ready for Monday.



What blanket statements man? They had a chance to take grip of this series by winning game 3 and setting themselves up for game 4 instead once against their backs are up against the wall. You can’t keep having these flat performances game in and game out. Also comparing the heat’s flat performance is ridiculous. The heat have at least been to a nba finals. They get the benefit of the doubt. This group has lost two consecutive eastern conference finals . What this group hasn’t developed is that championship mentality.


“Tatum is soft” “team is weak” even your line at the end of your post etc. just read this thread......the heat get no benefit of the doubt. They were undefeated at home in the playoffs blew us out game 1 and got rail roaded in game 2 and then responded to that beat down.....just like we can and have all playoffs.

You ask what blanket statements and then end your post with “this team doesn’t have championship mentality”....u know this how? series is over? Are we eliminated? can we not still make the finals? This team won’t have a championship mentality when they can no longer win a championship this season- and we are eliminated.

Everything they want is still in front of them. Did you think they’d go 3-1 to finish the series against Milwaukee? or back to back wins down 3-2? get out of here with that ****. Again, it’s a terrible loss but it’s 1 loss. out of all the Celtics team we’ve had since like 2012 this one deserves some benefit of the doubt.

Instead we get panic. how about let’s see how they respond Monday?


There’s no panic dude but they’re extending themselves for another possible 7 game series which is not desireable . Again you wanna go out there and take a grip of the series instead they laid an egg with a lackadaisical performance. Anyway at this point nothing would shock from this group. They’re too much jekyll and hyde.
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Post#330 » by Triple7 » Sun May 22, 2022 1:32 pm

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
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It's funny how you ask what a spoiled player is, then describing it yourself.

He succeeded way too fast (got to the ECF 3 times and he is 24).

No sense of urgency whatsoever.
Look at Tucker, who played in Israel.
Look at Butler, who was a homeless for a short period as a teen.

I can imagine them playing bad.
What I can't imagine, is them not having that sense of urgency.


Nah! We have a different definition of what spoiled means. I disagree. I don’t think getting to the conf finals several times count as success. Guys like Kobe, Wade, magic won way way early in their career. In fact, you would have thought he learned already from losing in the conf finals several times. He is not spoiled! Let’s just agree to disagree on that. He needs to show up. He has the talent obviously. It’s all mental at this point.


That stat line is awful. There’s a reason why media pundits are holding out on calling Tatum a superstar and a guy capable of leading a team to the title. It’s not for a lack of a team. The guy didn’t show up.


Totally agree with this. I’m pissed with the media saying they need to see something consistent with Tatum before declaring him a superstar. Even after that sweep against the Nets, still a lot have their reserves. After that masterful performance in game 6 against the bucks. Most media was under Tatum’s bandwagon already, and rightfully so. Then this type of performance happened again. That’s not just bad shooting day. That’s a horrible performance at home, with a chance to get a lead on the series. Well, to his credit he does bounce back after a poor showing. There is no reason for another poor game for him on game 4. We have a better team. They probably have an edge on coaching. Spo is so great, he made Struss a killer, and vincent a reliable rotation player. Let’s see what Tatum does.
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Post#331 » by Jammer » Sun May 22, 2022 1:33 pm

The 1968 Celtics were down 3-1 to Philadelphia in the Eastern Conference Finals and came back to win 4-3 and then beat the Lakers in 6 for the Championship.
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Post#332 » by Triple7 » Sun May 22, 2022 1:38 pm

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
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What blanket statements man? They had a chance to take grip of this series by winning game 3 and setting themselves up for game 4 instead once against their backs are up against the wall. You can’t keep having these flat performances game in and game out. Also comparing the heat’s flat performance is ridiculous. The heat have at least been to a nba finals. They get the benefit of the doubt. This group has lost two consecutive eastern conference finals . What this group hasn’t developed is that championship mentality.


“Tatum is soft” “team is weak” even your line at the end of your post etc. just read this thread......the heat get no benefit of the doubt. They were undefeated at home in the playoffs blew us out game 1 and got rail roaded in game 2 and then responded to that beat down.....just like we can and have all playoffs.

You ask what blanket statements and then end your post with “this team doesn’t have championship mentality”....u know this how? series is over? Are we eliminated? can we not still make the finals? This team won’t have a championship mentality when they can no longer win a championship this season- and we are eliminated.

Everything they want is still in front of them. Did you think they’d go 3-1 to finish the series against Milwaukee? or back to back wins down 3-2? get out of here with that ****. Again, it’s a terrible loss but it’s 1 loss. out of all the Celtics team we’ve had since like 2012 this one deserves some benefit of the doubt.

Instead we get panic. how about let’s see how they respond Monday?


There’s no panic dude but they’re extending themselves for another possible 7 game series which is not desireable . Again you wanna go out there and take a grip of the series instead they laid an egg with a lackadaisical performance. Anyway at this point nothing would shock from this group. They’re too much jekyll and hyde.


Even Sharpe defended the celtics and tatum against skip. Saying that we’ve learned our lesson already with that game 5 loss. and that won’t happen again. Especially with how we handled game 6 and 7. Even defended our loss in game 1, saying we were missing two starters, and was tired from a gruelling game 7. We had no reason to go out flat like that in the 1st quarter. We knew they would try to punch us in the face. That’s also on Ime. Lets see how they adjust.
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Post#333 » by Setshot33 » Sun May 22, 2022 1:52 pm

Jammer wrote:The 1968 Celtics were down 3-1 to Philadelphia in the Eastern Conference Finals and came back to win 4-3 and then beat the Lakers in 6 for the Championship.

A team with proven championship mettle is a little different than this current Celtics team that seems to have a hard time learning lessons in post season play.
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Post#334 » by celticgreenie » Sun May 22, 2022 2:05 pm

Tatum and Brown have grown so much as players from two years ago. Tatum has become such a good defender. Both are better passers and scorers. What hasn't changed? Even when they made it past Toronto in the bubble, Lowry and VanVleet would keep stripping the ball from them, and it didn't get any better with Miami in Conference Finals.
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Post#335 » by darrendaye » Sun May 22, 2022 2:13 pm

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That was as blatant an attempt at fixing a game (for us) as I've seen in quite awhile. Absolutely disgusting. I felt dirty watching this game. Before the end of game FT dance we had a 30-5 advantage at the FT line. Tatum and Brown got away with pushing off on almost every drive. Them plus Grant, Horford and Smart were hacking everyone. Despite the refs best efforts we still couldn't get it done. Crazy.

Jaylen Brown continues to have horrible BBIQ and handle. 7 TOs is pathetic. He is a very limited player but what he does do well he does at an elite level. Get him C&S threes, curl him off screens and ISO on defensive liabilities. That's all he should ever do. Any play with him dribbling the ball should be taken out of the playbook unless he has a major advantage like against Strus and Herro. You can get him 15 shots a game under those circumstances and it would almost completely eliminate the turnovers and maybe he'd also have energy to be the good defender he was a couple of years ago. It's a shame too because it ruined what could have been (and maybe still is tbh) a career night.

Tatum wilted under the increased intensity. He forced it too much and had wide open guys open all night due to his penetration. I know this is part of his maturity but he's seasoned enough to not still making those types of mistakes. Him, Smart and Brown have to take care of the ball. I don't care what the lead is at half-time. Without their best player, we should have been able to pull that game out but those three were just terrible with the ball.

Another example of how overrated Spoelstra is. Your team is hot from three, we are throwing the ball away at will and you build a 26 point lead and his lineups and refusal to call timeouts made the game way too close. Ime has impressed me more these playoffs than anything I've ever seen from Spoelstra.

This Heat team with Lowry matches our talent and depth like no other team in the Eastern Conference. That first half was the first healthy great team we've faced in 2022. No hyperbole. And look at the result :( But out luck continues with Butler going out. If he doesn't play and we win we seriously need to accept the asterisk that would come with a Finals appearance. Tonight is what Bam is capable of and only Spoelstra prevents it from happening more often. And if Lowry was healthy enough to play tonight he should have been playing the first two games.

Marcus Smart is an absolute warrior. I can't stand him but there's no denying that he plays as hard as anyone ever and is tough as nails. I thought for sure when he came back we were going to win after he hit that three but in typical Smart fashion he bricked others and committed some fouls and had turnovers that prevented us from closing the deal. It was a nice moment that could have been legendary had we won.

With how blatant they tried to get us to win I still think we win this series because future games there won't be such a huge lead for them to have to make up for. On to Game 4. LFG!


Most of the points I am in agreement. The calls tilted in the favor of the C's. I have never disagreed with your primary assessment of Jaylen (though I would say I likely am more willing to let him continue trial and error to improve as a playmaker). Eye test has me thinking I'm seeing a greater frequency of him looking to cut, which I'll state to offer a little positivity balance.

Clearly Tatum merits criticism. Smart had a couple head-scratching high risk pass attempts. Though, specifically, the one pass attempt to White in the 2nd quarter (I think) was understandable, White started to cut and stopped. Grant's lazy inbounds pass late was something that should be a point of emphasis and paired with the overall message about reducing these instances of unfocused care for the ball. Not just the turnovers, but the near turnovers, tipped passes, and off-target passes that mess up rhythm and timing of possessions. It's a positive trait about Rob Williams that I periodically extoll that he mostly is great at placement of his passes and snap his puts on them.

Overall though, I'm as pissed about the result as anyone on here. I'm highly-competitive and tend to be hyper-critical by nature. But I always felt this was going to be a very difficult series and a slightly uphill battle. Bam is a really tough matchup against our roster options. Lowry should forever be respected, even if people believe he's on fumes, due to his guile, competitiveness, and intelligence. I'm really trying to not lean into the White criticism as I said I'd let it run it's course this year and probably at least through the offseason if he doesn't shine the remainder of the playoffs.
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Post#336 » by ParticleMan » Sun May 22, 2022 2:24 pm

It's super frustrating that this team is SO close to being championship worthy. But not quite... yet. Championship teams play the same way for 48 minutes. The right way. Shots may not fall, the other team might go on a hot streak, the calls might go against you, but the championship teams have their style built into their DNA.

Not the Celtics. Not yet.

But we've made so much progress. Just 5 months ago we would go entire games where we had maybe 1 quarter where we played the right way. We're so good that this was enough to beat bad teams and stay around .500. Now, against really good teams in high pressure situations, we might have only one quarter where we suddenly forget how to play. Trouble is, when playing a #1 seed former champion in the ECF, that's enough to lose. It's happened twice in this series alone.

It's so annoying that they are now so close, and only lose when they shoot themselves in the foot. It's easy to say "oh these idiots, if they just didn't screw the pooch for a few minutes they would win every game." But there is a reason veteran teams win titles. There is a reason Giannis was 26 when he won his first and Lebron was 27. Fun quiz: name the last title team whose MVP was under 25 (hint: there's been exactly one since 2007).

I can't rule out that the C's will win the title this year. But this is only a testament to how fast this team learns from their mistakes. They've made a midseason turnaround for the ages. They swept past a Nets team that was widely anticipated to be the toughest 1st round series in the NBA. They've come back from a 3-2 deficit against the world champions. Still, it would be shocking if they won a title. Yes, it's up for grabs, no dominant team, but I still can't consider the C's any kind of favorite. Not against MIA, and even less so against GS if they make it that far. Not until they fully absorb Celtics basketball into their DNA. They're not there yet, but it's coming very, very soon.
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Re: Hot Sweaty Roller Coaster Ride From Hell! ECF Game 3 Loss 5/21 (MIA 2-1) 

Post#337 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun May 22, 2022 2:24 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:First and foremost most ; Tatum sucked. He was terrible. so bad so bad. Jaylen almost willed us back credit to him- that 3 he hit to cut it to 1 was huge and so clutch. Thought we had it there for a second.

The Celtics are gonna respond on Monday and this series will be 2-2 in Miami for game 5. Some of you guys here are soft as **** tho. It’s one thing to call out Tatum when he sucked and he did but he’s soft now? no stones? You dumb **** remember game 6 in Milwaukee?

Now the team is mentally weak again? they’ve been down in a series 4 times this playoffs and responded well every single time- maybe give them some benefit of the doubt until they actually don’t respond? the heat are a team as physical and as tough as us and one of the few that are actually better coached than us.....this **** isn’t supposed to be easy.

SAWFT **** from such a “iconic” fan base. 2-2 after monday. Shame.

I think the reactions to this series are also coming from the fact that this team hasn't beat Miami in a series since 2010, and this was supposed to be the time it was going to happen.

Easily can, still should, but those 2 quarters have doomed us.
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Re: Hot Sweaty Roller Coaster Ride From Hell! ECF Game 3 Loss 5/21 (MIA 2-1) 

Post#338 » by Jammer » Sun May 22, 2022 2:31 pm

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Jammer wrote:The 1968 Celtics were down 3-1 to Philadelphia in the Eastern Conference Finals and came back to win 4-3 and then beat the Lakers in 6 for the Championship.

A team with proven championship mettle is a little different than this current Celtics team that seems to have a hard time learning lessons in post season play.


True, Russell had already won 9 of his 11 and Sam Jones already had 8 of his 10, but that Team had 8 players with very specific skills who knew their roles.
#2 pick - 5 League MVPs when only players voted
2 #3 picks - 1 2nd Team All-NBA
2 #8 picks - 1 2nd Team All-NBA (future 4X 1rst Team All- NBA)
#9 pick - 3X 2nd Team All-NBA
#19 pick
#53 pick

That group had 31 NBA Championships and 4 NCAA Championships before winning the next two NBA Championships.

More top end talent, relatively speaking (4 All-NBAers versus just Tatum and Horford for Celts), and the # 53 pick was a PG who scored 21 pts. on 10-14 FG In Game 7 of the 1969 Finals against the Lakers.
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Post#339 » by Ben-N1ce » Sun May 22, 2022 2:31 pm

That was truly embarrassing at home to come out like that and the turnovers throwing the ball right to guys left and right. This is like when the Bucks obliterated them on the boards to win a game. Lose because you can do basic things and how many freaking layups did they miss?
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