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Begin Crafting your 2022-23 Celtics Roster.
Assume Keeping = Smart, Brown & Tatum.

Choose 7 of the 10 remaining choices.
Who's more Important to you, to Keep?

I think we have to bring in a Horford replacement, as he gets older.
Someone suggested bringing in Mo Bamba. I like that option.

My Choices are Below.:


Rotation, To Open 2022-23?:
Starters: Smart - - - Brown - Tatum - Horford - R. Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - White - Nesmith - Grant - Theis
Reserves: Thomas - Stauskas - Hauser - Fitts - Kornet
Two-Ways: Rookie - - - - - - Ryan?

Most likely scenario is that they bring back the 9 man playoff rotation of Smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford/RWIlliams as starters and GWilliams/White/Theis/Pritchard off the bench.

I think they'll make the following trade for the 10th player (Nesmith's salary helps offset the big luxury tax bill we'll be in for if we keep everyone and use the TPE):

BOS gives: Nesmith, maybe some future picks
BOS gets: someone into the TPE

I don't expect anyone spectacular, but someone who can probably be part of an 8 man playoff rotation. Alec Burks, Davonte' Graham, Kevin Huerter, Josh Richardson, Will Barton are all guys I like at various price points in terms of what pick, if any we'd need to attach.

They seem to like Hauser for a spot so he's #11.

Then the last 4 spots go to some combination of vet min players, the non guaranteed guys we have, and maybe one of the overseas stashes.

Well this team is really really good, just need more depth at the PG and PF position. Theis is good, but some games he's unplayable same for White, but I'd keep White though. I think we've got to look for some reliable backup option for Timelord, because we've got to admit that he's kinda injury prone and we can't rush him to come back so that he'll be injured again due to stress and fatigue of the muscle/bone recently recovered. Every year there are ring chasers available, I know Brad has a good mind and eye, so I believe he'll look at somebody, he has the guts to make the moves. And seriously, Wyc gotta be willing to pay the luxury tax this year, he'd be crazy not to. This team can win the title.

Trade White and Pritchard for Chauncey Billups.

hugepatsfan wrote:Most likely scenario is that they bring back the 9 man playoff rotation of Smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford/RWIlliams as starters and GWilliams/White/Theis/Pritchard off the bench.

that's not a likely scenario at all. do you realize how rare it is for an NBA team these days to bring back literally all of their top 9 players from the year before?

I don't think there was a single team this season who brought back all of their top 9 players from last year. Suns came the closest but had some changes with their bench..

Hal14 wrote:

hugepatsfan wrote:Most likely scenario is that they bring back the 9 man playoff rotation of Smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford/RWIlliams as starters and GWilliams/White/Theis/Pritchard off the bench.

that's not a likely scenario at all. do you realize how rare it is for an NBA team these days to bring back literally all of their top 9 players from the year before?

I don't think there was a single team this season who brought back all of their top 9 players from last year. Suns came the closest but had some changes with their bench..

You might be right. But they're all under contract.
Theis and White, might not make it.

If they fail to make the finals this year and lose to the heat yet again...

Pritchard brings some juice to the offense being able to knock in a shot, but really think that second unit needs a ball handler in his place, ideally someone who can also shoot. I've been clamoring for Kevin Huerter with the TPE but I have officially changed my stance to (drum roll)... Devonte' Graham of the Pelicans.

He did not work well in NO last year so they'd definitely give him way for free. Might even attach a small asset to be rid of his 2 guaranteed years left. But I think he could work well here. I think it could be a Josh Richardson situation where the guy just didn't work in his last stop, but the potential is there to round back into old form. In CHA, Graham showed strong playmaking and catch and shoot skills.

The downsides are that he's a horrible finisher inside and at 6'1" he can be targeted in switch. But he does give good effort on defense. We really desperately need another ball handler though and when you're talking about adding bench players it's unrealistic to not expect some tradeoffs. If they were perfect players they wouldn't be available for your bench.

Throw Graham in at the point when Tatum and Smart are on the bench. Would be a huge help to Brown, who really struggles to carry the load offensively. Pritchard's not really the issues. He's just a SG in a PG's body and we really need a PG because Brown can't run the offense as a point forward type and White isn't a PG either. Logistically speaking, Pritchard is the guy who's gotta get booted from the rotation for a ball handler.

Fully ready to see Theis and White go.

Does Nesmith get us into the 20-25 range in the draft?

If moves are to be made it will have to be with those 3 + the TPE.

Id target a guy like Dwight Howard with the vet min off the bench if we could. Good insurance for the ever so fragile Robert Williams. Would love to get Josh Richardson back also..

Smart, Beal, Brown, Tatum, Rob


Bench: Pritchard, Huerter, J.Smith, Grant, Theis


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hugepatsfan wrote:Pritchard brings some juice to the offense being able to knock in a shot, but really think that second unit needs a ball handler in his place, ideally someone who can also shoot. I've been clamoring for Kevin Huerter with the TPE but I have officially changed my stance to (drum roll)... Devonte' Graham of the Pelicans.

He did not work well in NO last year so they'd definitely give him way for free. Might even attach a small asset to be rid of his 2 guaranteed years left. But I think he could work well here. I think it could be a Josh Richardson situation where the guy just didn't work in his last stop, but the potential is there to round back into old form. In CHA, Graham showed strong playmaking and catch and shoot skills.

The downsides are that he's a horrible finisher inside and at 6'1" he can be targeted in switch. But he does give good effort on defense. We really desperately need another ball handler though and when you're talking about adding bench players it's unrealistic to not expect some tradeoffs. If they were perfect players they wouldn't be available for your bench.

Throw Graham in at the point when Tatum and Smart are on the bench. Would be a huge help to Brown, who really struggles to carry the load offensively. Pritchard's not really the issues. He's just a SG in a PG's body and we really need a PG because Brown can't run the offense as a point forward type and White isn't a PG either. Logistically speaking, Pritchard is the guy who's gotta get booted from the rotation for a ball handler.

I don't disagree with the assessment about the value of adding another ballhandler, but I would say the place to do so would be in swapping out White. I'm not fully advocating this course. The other, probably more likely, scenario, is to give White more rope to see if he can firm up his 3pt shooting or ask him to take a more floor general role on the 2nd unit.

While Derrick White is having a poor shooting playoffs, his track record shows that he is a Marcus Smart-level shooter from the three. Unless he never regresses to the mean, he's a good to great piece to have around, especially on his contract. Can't overreact to SSS numbers.
For what it's worth, Derrick White is shooting about 6 percentage points worse in the playoffs. That may look bad but consider that Pritchard is shooting 4.5 percentage points worse in the playoffs on similarly wide open shots. Horford is not a .483 three point shooter and Derrick White is not a 24% shooter from the three.

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Fully ready to see Theis and White go.

I'm not.

Depends on what flexibility they have with Al's contract. If they win a title and Al's $26.5m is all guaranteed, sign-n-trades will be tough as they'll be very close to the tax apron and hard capped..

If they lose to Miami, then they can stretch Al's $14.5 guaranteed money over 3 years and resign him at a lower cost, and make a run at Ayton via sign-n-trade. Then they can make some subsequent moves, since they'd likely lose Rob and White.

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Depends on what flexibility they have with Al's contract. If they win a title and Al's $26.5m is all guaranteed, sign-n-trades will be tough as they'll be very close to the tax apron and hard capped..

If they lose to Miami, then they can stretch Al's $14.5 guaranteed money over 3 years and resign him at a lower cost, and make a run at Ayton via sign-n-trade. Then they can make some subsequent moves, since they'd likely lose Rob and White.

I'm somewhat confident I've seen reference that waive, stretch, and re-sign is not allowed in CBA.

darrendaye wrote:

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Depends on what flexibility they have with Al's contract. If they win a title and Al's $26.5m is all guaranteed, sign-n-trades will be tough as they'll be very close to the tax apron and hard capped..

If they lose to Miami, then they can stretch Al's $14.5 guaranteed money over 3 years and resign him at a lower cost, and make a run at Ayton via sign-n-trade. Then they can make some subsequent moves, since they'd likely lose Rob and White.

I'm somewhat confident I've seen reference that waive, stretch, and re-sign is not allowed in CBA.

Yeah. That's True.
If he's re-signed, then he can't be Stretched.

darrendaye wrote:

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Depends on what flexibility they have with Al's contract. If they win a title and Al's $26.5m is all guaranteed, sign-n-trades will be tough as they'll be very close to the tax apron and hard capped..

If they lose to Miami, then they can stretch Al's $14.5 guaranteed money over 3 years and resign him at a lower cost, and make a run at Ayton via sign-n-trade. Then they can make some subsequent moves, since they'd likely lose Rob and White.

I'm somewhat confident I've seen reference that waive, stretch, and re-sign is not allowed in CBA.

If so, sign-n-trades for Beal and Ayton seems pretty tough unless they can find someone to take Theis.

Tatum, Brown, Smart and Ime lobbied Brad to get White. People try to imply that we got swindled but nothing we gave up has any value to me - the #25 pick in a garbage draft, a bust in Langford, a quality vet min guy in JRich and a future pick swap that statistically doesn’t happen. Even though we gave up so little that matters to a contending team, and now have a 17 mil a year guy that is struggling, I just can’t see giving up on him. Smart shot 25% from 3 in a playoff a year after shooting 40%. Players have slumps and it’s difficult to get out of them when you are in a high stress playoff, living in a new city, having a baby etc.

I think the focus of off season is to bring in a couple more tough 2 way players, preferably a 6-10 PF and a 6-5 combo guard. They don’t need to be stars. Savvy, 34% 3 pt shooters with grit. James Posey/Marcus Morris types.

Please no Marcus Morris.

White, Theis, Nesmith, and 2-3 first round picks for the best player available.

This is priority #1 that Stevens should be working on this summer.