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The Warriors were not affected by the Celtics Defense

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The Warriors were not affected by the Celtics Defense 

Post#1 » by Jammer » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:45 pm

In the end, the Celtics defense virtually had no impact on the Warriors. On the other hand, the Warriors in your face approach to D affected the Celtics, who were never as good a shooting team as the Warriors to begin with.

This is a comparison of the Celtics versus the Warriors over their 6 playoff games against each other. We all know that Rob wasn't 100% as he was having his knee drained. To what extent Tatum had issues is not really known other than he shot like a scrub. But here's the comparison of the two teams. Seems evident to me that the Celtics need a BETTER STARTING & CLOSING PG on the Floor. Screaming obvious. And shooters who make their shots. My method has been criticized for discriminating against guards, but the Warriors "little guys" shine with this methodology. Why, because they shoot a high percentage and don't turn the ball over. The Warriors were 9 Really Good Players Deep. The Celtics had 5 players who were overplayed. The Celtics NEED A BENCH.

An alternative view:

Pts. + Rebounds + (0.5 x Assists) + Steals + (0.5 x Blocks) - Missed FGs - (0.5 x Missed Free Throws) - Turnovers - (0.5 x Fouls)

Warriors
+25.65 Steph Curry
+21.5 Andrew Wiggins


+10.45 Kevon Looney
+9.65 Draymond Green
+9.45 Klay Thomson
+9.1 Gary Payton II (only appeared in 5 games)
+7.65 Jordan Poole
+7.0 Otto Porter
+6.3 Nemanja Bjelica (only appeared in 5 games)

Celtics (only Horford was better than his Regular Season Average, although Smart was very close to his)
+17.55 Jaylen Brown
+17.5 Al Horford
+15.3 Rob Williams III

+14.7 Jayson Tatum (lousy 2 pt. shooting, Turnovers and stupid fouls will kill ya)
+11.15 Marcus Smart

+4.65 Derrick White (not worth Josh Richardson, 2022 1rst Round Pick and Future Pick Swap)
+4.25 Grant Williams (terrible relative to his amount of minutes)
+2.35 Payton Pritchard

Yep, the Celtics couldn't make shots, and they couldn't hold onto the ball whether passing or dribbling. Tatum was, on a minutes basis, the 6th best player in this series. That's ridiculous for a guy named 1rst Team All-NBA. He was not even close to an All-Star in this series. But if Al, Rob and Marcus didn't score 2 points each in game 2 (6 points Total in game 2), but somehow could have managed to put in 17 between them, the Celtics could have pulled out Game 2. They got killed on the boards in Game 4, shot like crap and made 12 more Turnovers in Game 5, and had no cohesive offense for most of Game 6.
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Re: The Warriors were not affected by the Celtics Defense 

Post#2 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:11 pm

Warriors offensive rating in each of their wins never exceeded 111.5. They averaged 110.0 for the series. Against the Mavs it was 120.3. Against the Nuggets it was 121.9.

Dunno how many times it has to be said, but the Celtics lost because of their offense which half of the time fueled the Warriors transition offense (and because we couldn't rely on our bench). We defended them really well in the half court despite them having the greatest shooter ever and the king of floor gravity.

Our starting lineup which was our most used lineup in the series had a defensive rating of 102.5 IN THE FINALS. That's elite and would lead the NBA both in the regular season (by far) and the playoffs (slightly ahead of the Bucks) if they were able to play the full 48. Our defense was the main thing that prevented our losses from being 30-pt blowouts cos our offense was MIA.
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Re: The Warriors were not affected by the Celtics Defense 

Post#3 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:54 pm

DPOY should have been attached to Steph by the hip but as I've been telling people for years, Smart can't guard smaller, quicker PGs. He gets absolutely cooked. He's elite against big PGs and has the ability to switch onto 1-4 and even a small ball 5 with some success but straight up trying to defend quick PGs he isn't up to the task. And in trying, when switches are forced he's often out of position resulting in wide open threes due to him or our bigs sagging. This isn't all on Smart. The Warriors abused Horford and TimeLord all series. Both can close out on shooters but are essentially major liabilities defending the PnR perimeter. Our defensive metrics this season were smoke and mirrors due to playing tanking teams and injured teams for the past 6 months. We were never really that good. Top 10 maybe but not realistically top 3 like the numbers suggested.
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Re: The Warriors were not affected by the Celtics Defense 

Post#4 » by celticfan42487 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:54 am

This is just false.

Our defense kept giving us opportunity after opportunity that our offense threw away.

If we even had one consistent offensive option on this team to go with that defense this is a much closer series.
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Re: The Warriors were not affected by the Celtics Defense 

Post#5 » by robdog_5 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:32 am

Our defense was elite. Our offense just had to be avg to decent. It was awful
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Re: The Warriors were not affected by the Celtics Defense 

Post#6 » by KamikazeK » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:49 am

Let's not forget that Golden State's offense likely looked much much better than it actually was due to our offensive ineptitude.
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