2023 NBA Draft – Thurs, 8PM, June 22

Hal14 · Post #921 » by **Hal14** » Fri May 19, 2023 7:16 pm

Jesus - look how fast the release is on those 2 jumpers in the clip on the bottom right.

If he hits, he's like a Turkoglu type of guy.

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Hal14 · Post #922 » by **Hal14** » Fri May 19, 2023 8:20 pm

Another guy who has reportedly worked out for the Celtics..

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Dillon Jones is an interesting prospect. Can handle/pass/shoot like a guard. Can rebound like a big. 6'6'", 235 with a 6'11" wingspan.

Hal14 · Post #923 » by **Hal14** » Fri May 19, 2023 10:15 pm

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The shot looks good. And he looks like he's slimmed down a little bit since the college season. a little quicker, a little lighter on his feet.

Kind of similar to Olivier-Maxence Prosper. Prosper is younger, but Camara is more developed with his handle and ability to create off the bounce. Camara also a better shot blocker. Prosper maybe a little more explosive/athletic..

Hal14 · Post #924 » by **Hal14** » Fri May 19, 2023 10:31 pm

I know Edey has a couple of fans on here.

Edey looks like he's in good shape here and shoots the ball well, from mid range and even a few from 3.

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He's a top 60 guy for me. I don't think I would take him at 35, though. Think that's a little too high.

From what I read, seems like a 50/50 on whether he'll stay in the draft or return to college..

Post #925 » by **165bows** » Fri May 19, 2023 11:11 pm

Hal14 wrote:I know Edey has a couple of fans on here.

Edey looks like he's in good shape here and shoots the ball well, from mid range and even a few from 3.

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He's a top 60 guy for me. I don't think I would take him at 35, though. Think that's a little too high.

From what I read, seems like a 50/50 on whether he'll stay in the draft or return to college..

It’s kind of a given that he can’t learn to shoot - but who thought Brook Lopez or Horford would be shooting threes? I don’t think anyone was credibly talking about it when they were drafted. I mean it’s not likely but he’s a great athlete for his size with good overall touch. If he could develop a jumper or three point shot that would be a nasty weapon in the half court.

He’s a long shot but I am a fan overall. I feel like he will end up elsewhere but it’s weird people want to write him off like he has no growth potential at all.

bucknersrevenge · Post #926 » by **bucknersrevenge** » Sat May 20, 2023 1:04 am

Hal14 wrote:

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Jesus - look how fast the release is on those 2 jumpers in the clip on the bottom right.

If he hits, he's like a Kukoc/Turkoglo/Bojan Bogdanovic type of guy.

Interesting...

playa-hater · Post #927 » by **playa-hater** » Sat May 20, 2023 3:00 am

hugepatsfan wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I hate that I lost interest in this f****** draft because of how f****** annoying this Boston Celtic team is...

So many years without a championship is one thing but being so talented and still being this bad is more frustrating than any of the other 36 freaking years..

There is just so much total incompetence with this f****** team

Not saying there hasn't been frustration, but I think you're a bit ignorant to what "total incompetence" is.

You were saying..

But you're right that wasn't a 100% total incompetence we just witnessed only 99.9..

Smart2Nesmith43 · Post #928 » by **Smart2Nesmith43** » Sat May 20, 2023 2:22 pm

playa-hater wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I hate that I lost interest in this f****** draft because of how f****** annoying this Boston Celtic team is...

So many years without a championship is one thing but being so talented and still being this bad is more frustrating than any of the other 36 freaking years..

There is just so much total incompetence with this f****** team

Not saying there hasn't been frustration, but I think you're a bit ignorant to what "total incompetence" is.

You were saying..

But you're right that wasn't a 100% total incompetence we just witnessed only 99.9..

Total incompetence is like Detroit or Charlotte that can't put together a decent team for 15 years. Losing a conference finals game because of ice cold outside shooting isn't even close to qualifying.

Hal14 · Post #929 » by **Hal14** » Sat May 20, 2023 2:26 pm

What if I told you this guy was 7'1", a 7'4" wingspan, shot 59% from 3 at age 18 and is working out for the Celtics on Monday?

Oh, and he's likely to be available at pick 35 and is with the same agency as JD Davison.

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hugepatsfan · Post #930 » by **hugepatsfan** » Sat May 20, 2023 2:29 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:
Not saying there hasn't been frustration, but I think you're a bit ignorant to what "total incompetence" is.

You were saying..

But you're right that wasn't a 100% total incompetence we just witnessed only 99.9..

Total incompetence is like Detroit or Charlotte that can't put together a decent team for 15 years. Losing a conference finals game because of ice cold outside shooting isn't even close to qualifying.

Finally, some sense (though I’d say there’s more than just a cold streak). But my god, some people need some perspective. Crying total incompetence over ECF losses is very much first world problems.

Hal14 · Post #931 » by **Hal14** » Sat May 20, 2023 6:39 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
Hal14 wrote:

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Jesus - look how fast the release is on those 2 jumpers in the clip on the bottom right.

If he hits, he's like a Kukoc/Turkoglo/Bojan Bogdanovic type of guy.

Interesting...

Yes, Valerio-Bodon is interesting for sure. A guy who's 6'9" who can move like he moves and can handle the ball, take it to the rack and shoot it like he can is certainly intriguing.

On the flip side, his stats are decent but not great. And I watched a little bit of actual game film and he looked decent but not great. Was hoping the stats and/or game film would be better, especially for a guy who is an older prospect (just turned 22).

Because of that, he would probably be a reach at pick 35.

But if he goes undrafted, I would definitely try to get him on our summer league team and give him a shot at earning a training camp invite.

There's some real potential here - just not sure i'd risk it taking him at pick 35.

Cricket23 · Post #932 » by **Cricket23** » Sat May 20, 2023 6:47 pm

Hal14 wrote:What if I told you this guy was 7'1", a 7'4" wingspan, shot 59% from 3 at age 18 and is working out for the Celtics on Monday?

Oh, and he's likely to be available at pick 35 and is with the same agency as JD Davison.

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Who is it?

playa-hater · Post #933 » by **playa-hater** » Sat May 20, 2023 7:10 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
You were saying..

But you're right that wasn't a 100% total incompetence we just witnessed only 99.9..

Total incompetence is like Detroit or Charlotte that can't put together a decent team for 15 years. Losing a conference finals game because of ice cold outside shooting isn't even close to qualifying.

Finally, some sense (though I’d say there’s more than just a cold streak). But my god, some people need some perspective. Crying total incompetence over ECF losses is very much first world problems.

Since your analogy is to say "first world problems" etc.. Yes it is, why? because I believe in having "first world standards" Making a comparison to "3rd world" level organizations like Detroit and/or Charlotte is why this place can be so insufferable.

This is Boston.. The standards should be much higher. Winning 1 in soon to be 37 seasons and yet, posters say "get some perspective" .. Losing to a team who has "7 undrafted players" despite having a Major talent advantage screams only one thing. Incompetence.

But hey to each their own... I mean homeless people in America seemingly look well feed, so it's not a problem because someone out there has it worse in a 3rd world country.

Hal14 · Post #934 » by **Hal14** » Sat May 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Cricket23 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:What if I told you this guy was 7'1", a 7'4" wingspan, shot 59% from 3 at age 18 and is working out for the Celtics on Monday?

Oh, and he's likely to be available at pick 35 and is with the same agency as JD Davison.

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Who is it?

Isaiah Miranda

playa-hater · Post #935 » by **playa-hater** » Sun May 21, 2023 3:34 am

Hal14 wrote:
Cricket23 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:What if I told you this guy was 7'1", a 7'4" wingspan, shot 59% from 3 at age 18 and is working out for the Celtics on Monday?

Oh, and he's likely to be available at pick 35 and is with the same agency as JD Davison.

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Who is it?

Isaiah Miranda

Seems like he has a very high ceiling but may have a very low floor..

Outside of his freaky athleticism And possible shooting ability, No one has any idea if he actually knows how to play..

Is he worth a really close look certainly..

return2glory · Post #936 » by **return2glory** » Sun May 21, 2023 3:01 pm

Hal14 wrote:

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Jesus - look how fast the release is on those 2 jumpers in the clip on the bottom right.

If he hits, he's like a Turkoglu type of guy.

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He is also explosive and has quick hands and good at getting in the passing lanes. Good instincts too and has some potential as a passer. He is an interesting prospect to look at for us.

Hal14 · Post #937 » by **Hal14** » Sun May 21, 2023 6:38 pm

I have this weird feeling that Jaime Jaquez might be the next Austin Reaves.

Both wing sized guys, which is obviously a valuable position, allowing for versatility on both ends of the floor. Showed potential to shoot it in college but didn't have good 3 pt efficiency. Both older prospects who were good college players in a high major conference, really good ball handling, ability to create their own shot, get to the rim or get a shot in the mid range using combination of handle + craftiness (head fakes, spins, up and unders, shot fakes, etc.) in other words a very skilled player, high IQ, high competitiveness. Not great defensively but shows flashes of being solid on that end. Not great athleticism but their athleticism is better than people think. Pretty good passers..both seem to have good physical and mental toughness.

Someone else may have already made this comparison earlier in the thread (lol) or perhaps it was over on the draft forum..

Also, I've seen at least 2 or 3 mock drafts now that have us taking Jaquez at 35..

Who knows, maybe we take Jaquez at 35 and grab a big man as an UDFA..

He's very good. This was the last 2 games he played. 2nd and 3rd round of march madness with the pressure on and the bright lights.

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He makes some filthy passes. Hits some 3's. Can really create his own shot, has good touch near the rim or in mid range. Plays HARD. Has a really impressive steal. Really strong dude who can bully his way to the rim and finish through contact - nice combination of that bully ball with the handle/skill/craftiness he has off the dribble to get a shot off with up and unders, spins, shot fakes, etc.

Wouldn't hate it if we took him at 35. It's a wings league. He's a versatile wing. Had an insanely high BPM this season too which tells you he contributes to winning basketball - and had a really high rebounding % too (14.6%) which tells to you he really gets after it on the boards and can play either the 3 or the 4.

To support the point about him having better athleticism than people think, he had a 39" vertical at the combine. And looked a little bit slimmed down and moving pretty quick in agility drills:

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threrf23 · Post #938 » by **threrf23** » Sun May 21, 2023 8:27 pm

In terms of stats, scouting reports, and stature, I was thinking Jaquez seemed comparable to Khris Middleton around the same ages. At least, his stats as an underclassman were very similar, strengths and weaknesses are relatively similar, and Middleton went 39th overall.

I think Middleton was more agile if not more athletic and also a better jump shooter, even if it didn't reflect much in his outside shooting.

Jaquez shot 30% from 3 on lowish volume two seasons straight as a physically filled out upperclassman, which isn't ideal for a guy who projects as 3&d and isn't considered a shutdown defender (tho his defensive stats were solid).

Hal14 · Post #939 » by **Hal14** » Mon May 22, 2023 12:41 am

Updated list of guys who have done a pre-draft workout for the Celtics:

Landers Nolley
Oscar Tshiebwe
Justin Powell
Isaiah Miranda (workout scheduled for 5/22)
Jordan Walsh
Vincent Valerio-Bodon (workout scheduled for the week of 5/22)
Dillon Jones
Andre Jackson Jr (has worked out for Pacers, Celtics, Nets)

Post #940 » by **djFan71** » Mon May 22, 2023 1:33 am

Hal14 wrote:Updated list of guys who have done a pre-draft workout for the Celtics:

Landers Nolley
Oscar Tshiebwe
Justin Powell
Isaiah Miranda (workout scheduled for 5/22)
Jordan Walsh
Vincent Valerio-Bodon (workout scheduled for the week of 5/22)
Dillon Jones
Andre Jackson Jr (has worked out for Pacers, Celtics, Nets)

Can they be ready for the 2nd half?