Joe Mazzulla Thread, Head Coach – (COTM, Dec 2023 & March 2024)

[BK_2020]

Take a look at this gem. The play works to perfection, creating a 2 vs. 1 advantage on the weak side, getting Grant wide open for a three. Jaylen Brown, however, decides to contort his body and throw the ball 20 feet up in the air so that by the time Grant catches it and comes down with it, the defense has already recovered and now we have to depend on Grant Williams ISO. This is not Joe's fault.

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[BK_2020]

We get the ball back after Strus fouls Rob on the rebound. Joe calls a little curl for Jaylen and Rob's gravity springs him free for a free throw line floater. Jaylen bricks it. I'm not putting that on Joe Mazzulla.


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[BK_2020]

The next possession Jaylen Brown decides to take matters into his own hands and does this.

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This is not Joe's fault.

[BK_2020]

The next possession Tatum runs a high pnr with Rob. He gets the ball on a short roll and has only Kyle Lowry in front of him. All he has to do is take on dribble and go left or right, or perhaps even pass to any of the several open shooters. Rob, however, decides to jump straight up into Lowry because, despite playing basketball for a living for now 6 years, he doesn't feel too good about having to take one dribble. Can we blame Joe's offense for this?

[rd26]

Cross-posting from another venue that Parl hates:

I'm out on Joe. Supposedly, he was listening to the players, with everybody supporting each other through the inevitable missteps. But his stubbornness in the playoffs has been mind-boggling.

The players obviously wanted Rob-centric defense. (Note: Rob fouled a lot in Game 3, but that still doesn't excuse Joe.)

On offense, Miami did a great job of smothering drive/kick but not of pick/roll, and Joe has done too little to exploit that.

And of course there's all the game-ending clock-management and line-up stuff.

Also, somebody told him he should have short rotations in the playoffs, and he's obeying religiously.

Miami can smother drive and kick because they can put 2 on Tatum and not pay any consequences.
Look at this possession in G3Q2. How is Tatum supposed to drive and kick out of this? Or rather, should he even have to drive and kick when the rest of the Celtics are playing 4 on 3? The offense has already created an advantage. It's on the 4 clowns not named Tatum to take advantage of playing man up.
Also wtf is Jaylen Brown doing just strolling across the half court line with 18 seconds on the clock?


This is what that possession looks like 2 seconds later. Tatum reverses to White who passes it to Jaylen Brown who slowly walked into the possession 5 seconds after everyone else did. Strus can jog back to the other side of the court and all of a sudden, there is zero advantage.


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You could have simply said Jaylen Brown is the devil and the root of all evil. Just trying to save you some time.

[BK_2020]

Remember that time when Duncan Robinson beat Grant Williams off the dribble like he's Allen Iverson?

[BK_2020]

Tatum comes off a stagger screen and is in position to catch a pass with only Cody Zeller in his path.



All kinds of ways this play can develop. Tatum can take an open three. Tatum can drive and score or kick. Instead, this is what happens.

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Not blaming Joe's offense for this.

[London2Boston]

My anger for Joe has gone tbh. I’m way more angry at Brad for putting him in this situation with a contending team and not getting him one experienced Assistant by his side at least. He was set up up to fail and it was just assumed our squad would be good enough to get through the season regardless.

He still shouldn’t be here next season, but he’s behind Brad and the players in the blame game tbh.

[BK_2020]

Joe runs a double screen to get Jaylen Brown a favorable match up. In this case 6'1, 200 lb. Gabe Vincent, an undrafted free agent. Jaylen Brown cannot see a way to win this match up so he asks Grant to bail him out. Grant now has the ball and is facing down a double team.
In my dreams, Jaylen Brown sprints to the open corner and gets a wide open corner three.
In cruel reality, Jaylen just stands there, 6 feet away from Grant and the two defenders, holding his hands out. Not blaming Joe for this.

[BK_2020]

Tatum what the hell are you doing.
Better have some words with upper management about this.

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[BK_2020]

Double drag, wide open three for Brogdon. Brick. Joe just doesn't know how to run an offense.

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[BK_2020]

Bam doesn't always drop so that creates an opening for Rob to wreck havoc among midgets. Jaylen throws a good pass to Rob who can either shoot it off the lob or touch pass to Brogdon for an open corner three. Instead, he lands, brings the ball down, and gets stripped. If Joe's in fact telling Rob to bring the ball down low when he's surrounded by midgets, then I think Joe needs to go.

[BK_2020]

The Heat sold out so hard against the drive that sometimes you didn't even need a clever action to get free. Still bricked everything though.

[BK_2020]

Maybe Joe failed in some grand, meta-coaching sense of not getting these clowns to brick everything and repeatedly make bad decisions. The offense however was fine and it's been a top 3 offense in the season and post-season. I don't know how you guys watch the same games I do and come away with the idea that Joe's just telling Tatum and Jaylen go ISO for 48 minutes.

[BK_2020]

This is just sad.
But surely a good coach would've gotten these bums good shots.

[BK_2020]

Brogdon/Rob pick and roll. Joe has Tatum flash to the wing to drag Jimmy out of the paint, now the paint is completely empty for Rob to destroy midgets. Brogdon however decides to ram the ball straight into Gabe VIncent's hands, and it's 2 points the other way. Need better playcalling from Joe.

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BK is slaying, love it, this is good pain

[djFan71]

Maybe Joe failed in some grand, meta-coaching sense of not getting these clowns to brick everything and repeatedly make bad decisions. The offense however was fine and it's been a top 3 offense in the season and post-season. I don't know how you guys watch the same games I do and come away with the idea that Joe's just telling Tatum and Jaylen go ISO for 48 minutes.

Great stuff in this recent run of posts.

I lean more your way, but the bad decisions / lack of game plan discipline - maybe I can see some blame on Joe? Part of coaching is to make the players execute the plan - not just come up with it. That's where Ime was a little better, perhaps, at making them do it. Joe's obviously not telling them to make dumb plays and turnovers, but it's also clear they're not really executing what he DOES want them to do either.

EDIT: Consistently. They do it a large amount of the time. But not every time down the court.

[BK_2020]

Maybe Joe failed in some grand, meta-coaching sense of not getting these clowns to brick everything and repeatedly make bad decisions. The offense however was fine and it's been a top 3 offense in the season and post-season. I don't know how you guys watch the same games I do and come away with the idea that Joe's just telling Tatum and Jaylen go ISO for 48 minutes.

Great stuff in this recent run of posts.

I lean more your way, but the bad decisions / lack of game plan discipline - maybe I can see some blame on Joe? Part of coaching is to make the players execute the plan - not just come up with it. That's where Ime was a little better, perhaps, at making them do it. Joe's obviously not telling them to make dumb plays and turnovers, but it's also clear they're not really executing what he DOES want them to do either.

EDIT: Consistently. They do it a large amount of the time. But not every time down the court.

I think Ime's offense was a little more predictable and ISO-centric.

[Hal14]

Maybe Joe failed in some grand, meta-coaching sense of not getting these clowns to brick everything and repeatedly make bad decisions. The offense however was fine and it's been a top 3 offense in the season and post-season. I don't know how you guys watch the same games I do and come away with the idea that Joe's just telling Tatum and Jaylen go ISO for 48 minutes.

Great stuff in this recent run of posts.

I lean more your way, but the bad decisions / lack of game plan discipline - maybe I can see some blame on Joe? Part of coaching is to make the players execute the plan - not just come up with it. That's where Ime was a little better, perhaps, at making them do it. Joe's obviously not telling them to make dumb plays and turnovers, but it's also clear they're not really executing what he DOES want them to do either.

EDIT: Consistently. They do it a large amount of the time. But not every time down the court.

That's fair. I don't think BK is saying that Mazzulla should get 0% of the blame.

And despite the fact that I've defended Mazzulla quite a bit on here, I don't think he should get 0% of the blame either.

I think both BK and myself simply want the blame % to be shifted more fairly, that's all.

Because when you read many of the posts in this thread (and in many other threads on here) by the many folks who have been advocating for Mazzulla to be fired, you feel like many posters here think that 90 or even 100% of the blame (for us being down 3-0 with a blowout loss in game 3 and 2 losses at home) is on Mazzulla.