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Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:36 pm
by GoCeltics123
Jesus **** christ. Thank goodness he's stable
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:46 pm
by chrisab123
Thats absolutely horrifying. Hope he recovers fully.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:47 pm
by canman1971
Just terrible for any parent to see/hear. Sending positive thoughts.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:17 pm
by exculpatory
Taking off my ‘Endocrinology hat’ & putting on my reasonably well informed ‘well rounded Internal Medicine hat (including Cardiology)’ - any number of possibilities, but I am thinking:
Athlete’s Heart - Hypertrophic Obstructive Cardiomyopathy (HOCM) - associated w Assymetric Septal Hypertrophy (ASH) & potentially lethal ventricular arrhythmias like V Tach & V Fib. Historically called Idiopathic Hypertrophic Subaortic Stenosis (IHSS).
ALA Hank Gaithers in the 1990s.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430820/Len Bias & Reggie Lewis apparently had lethal ventricular arrhythmias associated w cocaine-related cardiomyopathy. Different beast.
Jeff Green had an aortic aneurysm repaired just in time when he was with us a long time ago. I have always conjectured whether he has a form of Marfan’s Syndrome which predisposed him. Different beast. (Abraham Lincoln is thought to have had Marfan’s Syndrome.)
G-d speed to Bronny, LeBron & the family.
Implications for his future in the NBA TBD after exhaustive cardiological evaluation. If severe form, he is done. If very mild form, maybe - see additional link below.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/981782
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:58 pm
by chakdaddy
Simplistic view...couldn't he get an ICD and be good to go?
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:06 pm
by exculpatory
chakdaddy wrote:Simplistic view...couldn't he get an ICD and be good to go?
Way too simplistic.
Read the links I inserted.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:10 pm
by playa-hater
exculpatory wrote:Taking off my ‘Endocrinology hat’ & putting on my reasonably well informed ‘well rounded Internal Medicine hat (including Cardiology)’ - any number of possibilities, but I am thinking:
Athlete’s Heart - Hypertrophic Obstructive Cardiomyopathy (HOCM) - associated w Assymetric Septal Hypertrophy (ASH) & potentially lethal ventricular arrhythmias like V Tach & V Fib. Historically called Idiopathic Hypertrophic Subaortic Stenosis (IHSS).
ALA Hank Gaithers in the 1990s.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430820/Len Bias & Reggie Lewis apparently had lethal ventricular arrhythmias associated w cocaine-related cardiomyopathy. Different beast.
Jeff Green had an aortic aneurysm repaired just in time when he was with us a long time ago. I have always conjectured whether he has a form of Marfan’s Syndrome which predisposed him. Different beast. (Abraham Lincoln is thought to have had Marfan’s Syndrome.)
G-d speed to Bronny, LeBron & the family.
Implications for his future in the NBA TBD after exhaustive cardiological evaluation. If severe form, he is done. If very mild form, maybe - see additional link below.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/981782
Can increased "stress" potentially have caused any of those conditions to escalate? I am wondering because the young man has been in the spot light so early and often. It just seems like it could be a mitigating factor.
Or is it purely medical In your opinion?
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:12 pm
by exculpatory
playa-hater wrote:exculpatory wrote:Taking off my ‘Endocrinology hat’ & putting on my reasonably well informed ‘well rounded Internal Medicine hat (including Cardiology)’ - any number of possibilities, but I am thinking:
Athlete’s Heart - Hypertrophic Obstructive Cardiomyopathy (HOCM) - associated w Assymetric Septal Hypertrophy (ASH) & potentially lethal ventricular arrhythmias like V Tach & V Fib. Historically called Idiopathic Hypertrophic Subaortic Stenosis (IHSS).
ALA Hank Gaithers in the 1990s.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430820/Len Bias & Reggie Lewis apparently had lethal ventricular arrhythmias associated w cocaine-related cardiomyopathy. Different beast.
Jeff Green had an aortic aneurysm repaired just in time when he was with us a long time ago. I have always conjectured whether he has a form of Marfan’s Syndrome which predisposed him. Different beast. (Abraham Lincoln is thought to have had Marfan’s Syndrome.)
G-d speed to Bronny, LeBron & the family.
Implications for his future in the NBA TBD after exhaustive cardiological evaluation. If severe form, he is done. If very mild form, maybe - see additional link below.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/981782
Can increased "stress" potentially have caused any of those conditions to escalate? I am wondering because the young man has been in the spot light so early and often. It just seems like it could be a mitigating factor.
Or is it purely medical In your opinion?
Genetic + possible stress component superimposed.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:31 pm
by Parliament10
A Parent's Worst Nightmare.
I feel for the Whole Family.
(Got 6 of my own.)
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:33 pm
by sam_I_am
Wow, that is a shock. Thankfully he is in stable condition and out of ICU.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:55 pm
by SuperDeluxe
Horrible. Glad that the kid seems to be recovering.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:06 pm
by captain green
Isn't the second one in a year at USC wtf is going on over there regardless of fandom I hope he has full recovery who cares if he goes the Cooper Manning route his health comes first. Get well young gun!!
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:33 am
by GoGreen
Far too young for this sort of thing. Sending love and the best to him.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:21 am
by Green89
Shocked when I saw this. Hopefully, he makes a full recovery. Basketball takes a backseat. He needs to get healthy first, then worry about how it will affect his athletic career. I'm sure there are many other things he can venture into if he can't resume basketball.
Re: Semi-OT: Prayers to Bronny James
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:43 am
by _Und3r][D4wg_
Future career prospects and 'what-could-be' historical relevance/legacy in sports be d@mned...
Whatever the circumstances that led to the unexpected cardiac event, the thing that matters most right now should be full recovery and a path back to full health... Figure out the rest much later.