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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1901 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:56 am

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doogie_hauser wrote:Musca back would be nice, but suspect he will go to a team/contender likely to give him more minutes aka Bucks, Cavs or Heat.


If he takes the final roster spot over Queta, I'd rather have Muscala getting minutes than Kornet, if only due to the extra shooting.

Porzingis, Horford, Tillman, and Muscala gives the team overall decent shooting at the center position.


Kornet has actually (to my surprise) really earned and deserved his minutes this season

Feel like it wouldn't be the best thing for the culture and morale amongst the playing group if we discarded Kornet for really only a minor upgrade in Muscula.

He does seem very popular amongst the playing group. Very loathe to do any moves that upsets our team chemistry.


Good point. Maybe I take Kornet for granted. If Moose is fifth in the pecking order, then maybe you're right he'll go to another team.

If he liked being with the Celtics and wants a legit shot at a ring, his shooting will allow him to spell KP during the regular season, so he'd be a decent addition if he's OK with very limited playing time. I thought he was a nice guy to have on the team, another vet like Blake. One of those two would be fine if willing and able.
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Post#1902 » by exculpatory » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:41 am

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If he takes the final roster spot over Queta, I'd rather have Muscala getting minutes than Kornet, if only due to the extra shooting.

Porzingis, Horford, Tillman, and Muscala gives the team overall decent shooting at the center position.


Kornet has actually (to my surprise) really earned and deserved his minutes this season

Feel like it wouldn't be the best thing for the culture and morale amongst the playing group if we discarded Kornet for really only a minor upgrade in Muscula.

He does seem very popular amongst the playing group. Very loathe to do any moves that upsets our team chemistry.


Good point. Maybe I take Kornet for granted. If Moose is fifth in the pecking order, then maybe you're right he'll go to another team.

If he liked being with the Celtics and wants a legit shot at a ring, his shooting will allow him to spell KP during the regular season, so he'd be a decent addition if he's OK with very limited playing time. I thought he was a nice guy to have on the team, another vet like Blake. One of those two would be fine if willing and able.


Forgive my ignorance on this.

No room for Muscala unless we let someone go?
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1903 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:42 am

exculpatory wrote:
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Kornet has actually (to my surprise) really earned and deserved his minutes this season

Feel like it wouldn't be the best thing for the culture and morale amongst the playing group if we discarded Kornet for really only a minor upgrade in Muscula.

He does seem very popular amongst the playing group. Very loathe to do any moves that upsets our team chemistry.


Good point. Maybe I take Kornet for granted. If Moose is fifth in the pecking order, then maybe you're right he'll go to another team.

If he liked being with the Celtics and wants a legit shot at a ring, his shooting will allow him to spell KP during the regular season, so he'd be a decent addition if he's OK with very limited playing time. I thought he was a nice guy to have on the team, another vet like Blake. One of those two would be fine if willing and able.


Forgive my ignorance on this.

No room for Muscala unless we let someone go?

We only have 14 on our main roster, so have a space free.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1904 » by doogie_hauser » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:22 am

Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
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Good point. Maybe I take Kornet for granted. If Moose is fifth in the pecking order, then maybe you're right he'll go to another team.

If he liked being with the Celtics and wants a legit shot at a ring, his shooting will allow him to spell KP during the regular season, so he'd be a decent addition if he's OK with very limited playing time. I thought he was a nice guy to have on the team, another vet like Blake. One of those two would be fine if willing and able.


Forgive my ignorance on this.

No room for Muscala unless we let someone go?

We only have 14 on our main roster, so have a space free.


As long as we can keep Queta and Kornet on our playoff roster., I would sign Muscala if only to keep him away from one of our conference rivals :)
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1905 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:45 am

doogie_hauser wrote:
Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
Forgive my ignorance on this.

No room for Muscala unless we let someone go?

We only have 14 on our main roster, so have a space free.


As long as we can keep Queta and Kornet on our playoff roster., I would sign Muscala if only to keep him away from one of our conference rivals :)


In order for Queta to qulify for the playoff roster, he'd need to sign a regular contract instead of the 2-Way he's currently on, thus taking that available 15th roster spot.

So it would be Kornet plus either Queta or Muscala. As much as I like Queta, for this year I think an established vet is the wiser choice.

And I agree that getting a serviceable vet can block an opponent. It seems that a lot of conference rivals are stacking up some vets on the bench: Bogdanovic/Burks in NY, Gallo/Beverley in Milwaukee, Lowry and a bunch of guys in Philly.

The Celtics are a bit light on more experienced bench players. I've been hoping Cedi Osman becomes available, but Muscala is a decent option considering what's left at this point.
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Post#1906 » by 165bows » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:46 pm

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Post#1907 » by 165bows » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:47 pm

What happened to Muscala's shooting? It totally cratered this year.
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Post#1908 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:11 pm

165bows wrote:What happened to Muscala's shooting? It totally cratered this year.

That's what happens when you play on the Pistons and Wizards. Not an accident that Porzingis numbers are better because of the quality of shots he is getting. I suspect Muscala would be the same or anyone else for that matter.
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Post#1909 » by JaMarco » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:10 pm

They definitely should bring Muscala back.
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Post#1910 » by 165bows » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:18 pm

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165bows wrote:What happened to Muscala's shooting? It totally cratered this year.

That's what happens when you play on the Pistons and Wizards. Not an accident that Porzingis numbers are better because of the quality of shots he is getting. I suspect Muscala would be the same or anyone else for that matter.

Sure but he was a well above average efficiency guy on the worst offense in the league one year with Okc.

I get that team quality makes a difference, and luck/variance is a thing as well, but this year was a massive outlier for him in a negative direction so just wondering if he's hurt or washed up or something.
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Post#1911 » by RickyDizzle » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:41 pm

JaMarco wrote:They definitely should bring Muscala back.


What for? Tillman, a better player that we gave up assets for, can't get on the floor right now. Muscala, if picked up for free, would be behind both Kornet and Tillman...and of course Horford, Porzingis, Tatum, maybe Brisset, at the 4 and 5 spots.
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Post#1912 » by playa-hater » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:54 pm

I liked Muscala last season as a pickup. B7y clearly Joe did not. didn't even play regularly last regular season and not at all in the postseason. Boston is deeper than ever at Big. After KP and AL, I would put all 3 of X Tillman/Kornet/Queta in before him. So no need at all for a Big I actually do like.
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Post#1913 » by JaMarco » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:58 pm

I like Muscala because he can shoot the 3 unlike all the other reserve bigs, so they don't have to give up their elite spacing advantage when he's in the game. But you have a point that Mazzula didn't seem to care for him last year.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1914 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:59 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:Musca back would be nice, but suspect he will go to a team/contender likely to give him more minutes aka Bucks, Cavs or Heat.

OKC makes the most sense since he played there and they need a backup C. Them or Philly
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Post#1915 » by brackdan70 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:06 pm

I don’t see why we would want Muscala. I’d rather play Kornet and Tillman and even Queta over him.
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Post#1916 » by 165bows » Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:09 pm

playa-hater wrote:I liked Muscala last season as a pickup. B7y clearly Joe did not. didn't even play regularly last regular season and not at all in the postseason. Boston is deeper than ever at Big. After KP and AL, I would put all 3 of X Tillman/Kornet/Queta in before him. So no need at all for a Big I actually do like.

Didn't he hurt his ankle or something? He really only played after the first few weeks when it was a clear necessity, if someone else was available he never got on.
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Post#1917 » by 165bows » Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:11 pm

I liked Muscala but I think I'd prefer Porter Jr for this team.
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Post#1918 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:07 pm

165bows wrote:
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165bows wrote:What happened to Muscala's shooting? It totally cratered this year.

That's what happens when you play on the Pistons and Wizards. Not an accident that Porzingis numbers are better because of the quality of shots he is getting. I suspect Muscala would be the same or anyone else for that matter.

Sure but he was a well above average efficiency guy on the worst offense in the league one year with Okc.

I get that team quality makes a difference, and luck/variance is a thing as well, but this year was a massive outlier for him in a negative direction so just wondering if he's hurt or washed up or something.


Could be a slump. He's shooting 38 percent since he came to the Pistons. Washington could be anything - shot quality, not getting his spots on the floor, sometimes smart offensive players struggle on bad young teams when an offense is run badly..
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Post#1919 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:08 pm

Muscala to OKC would be a nice story.

What happened to Gallo?
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Post#1920 » by brackdan70 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:47 pm

My preferences on what to do with the 15th spot
1. Queta
2. OPJ
3. Leave it open
4. Sign some guy off the radar that Stevens has been watching for years.
5. Blake
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