Okay, so Baylor Scheierman is REALLY GOOD

[He_Got_Game]

Am I the only one who is absolutely stunned by this guy's game? This guy has a flair/swag to his game and is confident like white chocolate Jason Williams almost? Dare I say?

[ConstableGeneva]

He has good feel and is a willing passer that goes along with his ball skills. He's a Celtic to me. His shooting, if it improves to even just 37% from 3, is a bonus.

[bisme37]

Here's the Baylor highlights from tonight that I didn't post since we lost the game haha

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Paul (jump to 1:50) had a scoop teardrop off glass in his first ever NBA start ...

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Baylor looking like The Truth scooping it off the glass

Here's the Baylor highlights from tonight that I didn't post since we lost the game haha

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I thought it was telling that when Payton was asked who showed something last night he went to Queta and Norris. No mention of Baylor, who was playing right next to him and who IMO has an opportunity to leapfrog PP into a future starting lineup.

[phincsfan]

His defensive footwork has really improved. Still slow and that's who he is, but he works really hard to get to the right spots defensively all the time.

He has natural offensive tools and a very good feel for the game whether the ball is in his hands or not.

I wasn't impressed watching him with Maine at all, but now that I see how he plays in NBA game speed opened my eyes to what he actually can become. Maine was like a summer league game each night, and that's not good for some guys. Lots of turbulence throughout must cause certain players to never get a real rhythm going. But, he was able to adjust during those games and still contribute.

When he's in with the 2nd unit he needs the ball in his hands because he creates off the dribble for himself and others. When he's with the 1st unit he can sit back and wait for a pass or make a cut. He's a very natural athlete.

I'm sold.

[hugepatsfan]

I thought it was telling that when Payton was asked who showed something last night he went to Queta and Norris. No mention of Baylor, who was playing right next to him and who IMO has an opportunity to leapfrog PP into a future starting lineup.

I doubt Pritchard ever gets put into the starting lineup here. He's the type of guy that most teams, even if he's one of their 5 best players, would prefer to bring off the bench because his size disadvantage pops up in some matchups and you can control that better off the bench. Even if Baylor never becomes as good as PP is now, my guess is he'd start over him based on that, even if it's a scenario where the starter is a lesser player and plays less minutes than the bench guy.

I think for Pritchard to ever start here BOTH White and Holiday have to eventually be moved to the point they really need a lead guard type. If it's just one of those guys gone, probably a wing like Hauser or Baylor would be preferrable in the starting lineup. And if both are here obviously there's no opening.

[31to6]

I'm psyched almost as much because it means I don't have to read about Kyle Filipkowski as because it means they found a future rotation player with the 30th pick.

Who's that MIA guy that annoys me? Jaime Jaquez Jr. It seems like Scheierman can be a similar level of player, partly because he has the mentality to just get to it out there.

Also if he wants to become a true master of the no dip 3ptfga, go for it man, just practice it a ton!

[He_Got_Game]

Those scoop layups with the off hand and soft touch off the glass are a thing of beauty and demonstrate real skill. I think this guy is a future starter.

[hugepatsfan]

I definitely see a path for him becoming a starter. Not to derail discussion, but I do expect that in the next 1-2 years Jrue will be dealt off for some combo of financial savings and front court starter/depth. If Baylor keeps progressing, I think he could be poised to take that starting spot. Pritchard/Hauser are here of course, but Baylor might profile better as a starter. Hauser is obviously a knockdown shooter and solid defender, but he doesn't replace the secondary playmaking Jrue brings like Baylor theoretically could. And while Pritchard does, his size makes him a harder defensivel liability to hide across all matchups than Baylor projects to be if he keeps improving on that end.

White / Pritchard
Brown
Scheierman / Hauser
Tatum

could very will be a "good enough to compete for a championship" level PG/SG/SF/PF rotation for 3-5 years if Baylor just grows into an ok starter.

[djFan71]

Offensively, he looks great. D is decent as well, he's strong and gives good effort. It's a little misplaced at this point - he overhelps and gets lost in rotations a bit. But more reps/experience should help that. He could play back on guys a little like Hauser does to minimize the blow bys.

I can definitely see him being an every game rotation piece down the line. Possibly even next year, depending on other moves.

If he does, teams will adjust and scout him and take away his tendencies, so we'll see if he has counters for that. I think he will - he just seems to know the game well enough to read and react. While I liked the scoop layups, I also think he could steal from the Pritchard playbook and bump into the defender and create space rather than avoiding contact and relying on those types of finishes. He's strong enough that it should work.

[He_Got_Game]

Offensively, he looks great. D is decent as well, he's strong and gives good effort. It's a little misplaced at this point - he overhelps and gets lost in rotations a bit. But more reps/experience should help that. He could play back on guys a little like Hauser does to minimize the blow bys.

I can definitely see him being an every game rotation piece down the line. Possibly even next year, depending on other moves.

If he does, teams will adjust and scout him and take away his tendencies, so we'll see if he has counters for that. I think he will - he just seems to know the game well enough to read and react. While I liked the scoop layups, I also think he could steal from the Pritchard playbook and bump into the defender and create space rather than avoiding contact and relying on those types of finishes. He's strong enough that it should work.

I agree. I usually look at two things when evaluating players potential. I look at basketball IQ and skill level. Baylor has both so I have no doubts the counters on top of counters in his arsenal will be coming as soon as next season. He just has IT and looks like an NBA player.

[lon3lytoaster]

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[playa-hater]

I'm psyched almost as much because it means I don't have to read about Kyle Filipkowski as because it means they found a future rotation player with the 30th pick.

Who's that MIA guy that annoys me? Jaime Jaquez Jr. It seems like Scheierman can be a similar level of player, partly because he has the mentality to just get to it out there.

Also if he wants to become a true master of the no dip 3ptfga, go for it man, just practice it a ton!

Hey, shots fired ??

Big Kyle guy here, but Rico is getting so damn Neato. May be far better than even the best optimist thought. I looked at his college video's and scouting reports. Don't recall passing/dribbling flair at this type of level.

"White Chocolate" even in the same sentence is already a compliment. Shooting may always be streaky. And I wish he was a bit bigger. But definitely has solid rotation player written all over him.

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I thought it was telling that when Payton was asked who showed something last night he went to Queta and Norris. No mention of Baylor, who was playing right next to him and who IMO has an opportunity to leapfrog PP into a future starting lineup.

I doubt Pritchard ever gets put into the starting lineup here. He's the type of guy that most teams, even if he's one of their 5 best players, would prefer to bring off the bench because his size disadvantage pops up in some matchups and you can control that better off the bench. Even if Baylor never becomes as good as PP is now, my guess is he'd start over him based on that, even if it's a scenario where the starter is a lesser player and plays less minutes than the bench guy.

I think for Pritchard to ever start here BOTH White and Holiday have to eventually be moved to the point they really need a lead guard type. If it's just one of those guys gone, probably a wing like Hauser or Baylor would be preferrable in the starting lineup. And if both are here obviously there's no opening.

Likely 6th Man PG if they trade out their current starting PG (JRue) surely has his eyes on the potential promotion. But I see a White/Scheierman backcourt as perhaps more likely by their next playoffs run (in 355 days). And I really see Baylor is more of a big guard who'd defend wings.

[cloverleaf]

His defensive footwork has really improved. Still slow and that's who he is, but he works really hard to get to the right spots defensively all the time.

He has natural offensive tools and a very good feel for the game whether the ball is in his hands or not.

I wasn't impressed watching him with Maine at all, but now that I see how he plays in NBA game speed opened my eyes to what he actually can become. Maine was like a summer league game each night, and that's not good for some guys. Lots of turbulence throughout must cause certain players to never get a real rhythm going. But, he was able to adjust during those games and still contribute.

When he's in with the 2nd unit he needs the ball in his hands because he creates off the dribble for himself and others. When he's with the 1st unit he can sit back and wait for a pass or make a cut. He's a very natural athlete.

I'm sold.

He's also trimmed his body for a little more NBA speed since the draft.

[KamikazeK]

Naturally, he's going to become a starter and then Basketball Genius Brad will develop his reputation as a drafter and that's how we'll keep winning titles.

[Tatumfor2]

He sure is fun to watch! I'd want to be an active cutter if I was on the court with him.

[165bows]

Offensively, he looks great. D is decent as well, he's strong and gives good effort. It's a little misplaced at this point - he overhelps and gets lost in rotations a bit. But more reps/experience should help that. He could play back on guys a little like Hauser does to minimize the blow bys.

I can definitely see him being an every game rotation piece down the line. Possibly even next year, depending on other moves.

If he does, teams will adjust and scout him and take away his tendencies, so we'll see if he has counters for that. I think he will - he just seems to know the game well enough to read and react. While I liked the scoop layups, I also think he could steal from the Pritchard playbook and bump into the defender and create space rather than avoiding contact and relying on those types of finishes. He's strong enough that it should work.

I was watching Hauser more closely this past game to see the difference between he and Baylor. Hausere is really good about giving guys a cushion when they have the ball on the floor, but also very quick to get back in to contest when they step back for the shot. Hauser doesn't have great length but it's decent because of his size so I think that's one area that makes him an under rated defender is being able to stay in front of guys but still bother their shots just enough, he's surprisingly light and quick on his feet moving back in to contest shots.

[darrendaye]

Offensively, he looks great. D is decent as well, he's strong and gives good effort. It's a little misplaced at this point - he overhelps and gets lost in rotations a bit. But more reps/experience should help that. He could play back on guys a little like Hauser does to minimize the blow bys.

I can definitely see him being an every game rotation piece down the line. Possibly even next year, depending on other moves.

If he does, teams will adjust and scout him and take away his tendencies, so we'll see if he has counters for that. I think he will - he just seems to know the game well enough to read and react. While I liked the scoop layups, I also think he could steal from the Pritchard playbook and bump into the defender and create space rather than avoiding contact and relying on those types of finishes. He's strong enough that it should work.

Excellent breakdown, certainly you can see times he's lost on defense but the effort is generally high. I still am not a fan of his shooting form but if he can make it work he's going to be a solid rotational player. I said this in the main Scheierman thread back in November:

I'm optimistic. He would be KG approved as he has a great deal of cockiness and a-hole in his game.

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