Where to from here?

[GrandTheftRondo]

Is it possible for us to retool and build another championship contender around Tatum?

Or are we going to be hamstrung by the CBA and left with a lesser version of a team around Tatum and maybe Brown, White?

Anyone got some CBA/cap insights?

[chrisab123]

Draft becomes more important but if the ownership is willing to pay it you can shoot under the 2nd apron by moving KP or Jrue then use whoever out of the two you don’t initially move, pair them with Hausers salary and get another player that way. I believe anyways.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Tatum, Brown, White, and Pritchard should be considered untouchable—unless someone comes in with a ridiculous offer for Brown. I'd explore what you could get in return for Kristaps Porzingis and Jrue Holiday. Try to trade them for younger players who better fit the team's timeline. The hope is that the new additions mesh well with the core, and Tatum is able to return before the playoffs next year so you can make a strong run with that group.

[SuperDeluxe]

I guess it all depends on when the team expects Tatum to be back at full force.

If in time for next playoffs, then they'll run it back with some roster retouches to address the luxury tax.

If not, then there will absolutely be 2-3 big contracts unloaded (tax-related) and some retooling.

I can't foresee a firesale for a complete rebuild.

Wild card: A blockbuster trade to improve the team with Tatum away.

[redslastlaugh]

Honestly, our team got so old and expensive so fast
it was 100% worth it to raise Banner 18 and pass the Lakers for chip lead
but now we need to replenish with some younger more athletic dog type dudes

Since 2017 when we took JT in the draft, the only first round pick we made who plays is Payton
& Payton's 27

But with JT out, I think nexxt yr gonna be a bridge year. Trade one of Jrue or Derrick. See if you can flip KP for a younger player on a smaller contract
See what you can get for Jaylen. Not necessarily trade JB, but see what is the market. I'd prefer to keep him. He'll be better next year having a longer summer to rest and replenish.
See if any youngish allstar players have fallen out of favor with their current teams and see if they're worth trading for (Ja Morant, Zion)

On court. Focus on more player movement, ball movement, speed athleticism, and creativity. Focus less on shooting 3's. Going from 42 3PTA last season to 48 3PTA this season is 14% more 3's that CLEARLY did not result in 14% better basketball. If Joe isn't interested in that, let him coach the year as a bridge-year coach and re-assess the roster and hire someone new next offseason. But hopefully Joe adds more wrinkles on offense so we are not so predictable and beholden to 3pt shot variance.

[itrsteve]

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Brad does. Historically he's been brilliant and this mega retooling will be very interesting to see how he approaches it.

Fully expecting next year to be a development/throwaway season and that's AOK. He's been a smart enough GM not to mortgage away our future draft capital.

We're going to be fine, Tatum is going to be fine. If anything I think we'll be fun again without the expectation of constantly winning.

[165bows]

First step is to properly assign blame.

And I blame all this **** on that pink *** dirty bitch Derrick Lively. If he hadn’t gotten the idea he was a tough guy from wide neater Jason Kidd and blown out KP’s ankle, KP never would have gotten syphilis.

And then the team would have beaten this clunky old Knicks crew in 4.

I mean how are they supposed to play hard when they look over and know they can catch stage 9 covid just even looking at KP? Did anyone else see him sit next to Jordan Walsh and every molecule of Walsh’s face just screamed “I hope I don’t catch whatever this tall skinny dude has it looks awful”

[Ben-N1ce]

I have no idea how they can be better than a play in team. Brad is the man if he can get off KP and Jrue and add a good player.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Honestly, our team got so old and expensive so fast
it was 100% worth it to raise Banner 18 and pass the Lakers for chip lead
but now we need to replenish with some younger more athletic dog type dudes

Since 2017 when we took JT in the draft, the only first round pick we made who plays is Payton
& Payton's 27

But with JT out, I think nexxt yr gonna be a bridge year. Trade one of Jrue or Derrick. See if you can flip KP for a younger player on a smaller contract
See what you can get for Jaylen. Not necessarily trade JB, but see what is the market. I'd prefer to keep him. He'll be better next year having a longer summer to rest and replenish.
See if any youngish allstar players have fallen out of favor with their current teams and see if they're worth trading for (Ja Morant, Zion)

On court. Focus on more player movement, ball movement, speed athleticism, and creativity. Focus less on shooting 3's. Going from 42 3PTA last season to 48 3PTA this season is 14% more 3's that CLEARLY did not result in 14% better basketball. If Joe isn't interested in that, let him coach the year as a bridge-year coach and re-assess the roster and hire someone new next offseason. But hopefully Joe adds more wrinkles on offense so we are not so predictable and beholden to 3pt shot variance.

Outside of Horford and Holiday it really isn’t that old.

I think the biggest problem is that Horford ended up being relied upon far too much again.

Porzingis was meant to replace Al when we got him. Have him play a lesser role. Hes been completely unreliable instead and we end up playing Al far too many minutes.

The bigger problem was all the injuries adding up.

[Fierce1]

Reset the cap, if possible.

Brad has work to do.

Next season will be a bridge year.

[Triple M]

We looked old/non-athletic and it came up on us fast. Hopefully we can find some younger pieces to surround the core of the team.

[Setshot33]

Joe has to go. The idea that anytime the offense stunk it was because they didn't shoot enough threes, you have a major red flag at coaching.

[Jakeopp]

Honestly, it feels like we're kind of screwed for next season with JT being out. Everyone seems to think that we'll be able to offload KP and/or Jrue, but who is going to want a big man that's never healthy or a declining PG on a big contract? We're probably stuck giving up picks or other players with value just to offload these guys. Even if we do trade those guys, we're not getting anything of value back. What's the point in rolling out a mediocre team that will neither get a good draft pick or seriously compete in the playoffs? Sure, we could call it a development year to prep for JT's return, but what promising young talent are we developing? Jordan Walsh? JD Davison? These guys have shown nothing to indicate they even belong in the NBA.

Personally, I'd go the nuclear route and fire up the tank next season. JT won't be back next year, and there's a chance he won't even be the same player when he does return the following year.

The only guys that are arguably worth keeping around are JB and DWhite, but I don't think that core is enough several years down the road. White is almost 31 now, and JB frankly just wasn't good enough this season. He's failed to fix any of the glaring weaknesses in his game and it cost us. I don't think that's changing at this point in his career.

[Saint Lazarus]

Trade Brown for #1. #2 if the Mavs won't budge.

[SuperDeluxe]

If Giannis becomes available, I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics are in the conversation.

[Setshot33]

If Giannis becomes available, I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics are in the conversation.

Just what they need: another big that can't shoot.

[NYCelticsfan136]

Honestly, it feels like we're kind of screwed for next season with JT being out. Everyone seems to think that we'll be able to offload KP and/or Jrue, but who is going to want a big man that's never healthy or a declining PG on a big contract? We're probably stuck giving up picks or other players with value just to offload these guys. Even if we do trade those guys, we're not getting anything of value back. What's the point in rolling out a mediocre team that will neither get a good draft pick or seriously compete in the playoffs? Sure, we could call it a development year to prep for JT's return, but what promising young talent are we developing? Jordan Walsh? JD Davison? These guys have shown nothing to indicate they even belong in the NBA.

Personally, I'd go the nuclear route and fire up the tank next season. JT won't be back next year, and there's a chance he won't even be the same player when he does return the following year.

The only guys that are arguably worth keeping around are JB and DWhite, but I don't think that core is enough several years down the road. White is almost 31 now, and JB frankly just wasn't good enough this season. He's failed to fix any of the glaring weaknesses in his game and it cost us. I don't think that's changing at this point in his career.

This team needs to get players that can play inside and outside. They’re too stationary. Good ball handlers as well. Either way i don’t think they have the players to trade for Giannis or the draft picks.

[GrandTheftRondo]

If Giannis becomes available, I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics are in the conversation.

Just what they need: another big that can't shoot.

Aren’t you one of the guys who complains about this team shooting too many 3s and being soft?

Giannis relentlessly attacks the paint, causes all sorts of problems and creates open shots.

[Green89]

If Giannis becomes available, I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics are in the conversation.

Just what they need: another big that can't shoot.

Bucks won a title with that big who couldn't shoot. Shooting doesn't matter if you can finish around the rim at an MVP level.

[Roger Federer]

I think the Tatum/Brown experiment is over. These two will never win another championship together. They are Harden and Westbrook if Harden and Westbrook somehow found a way to win a championship that one year they blew a 3-1 lead in the WCF on OKC. I think also like Harden and Westbrook, they won’t ever elevate a team on their own to a title. The best we can hope for is to somehow acquire an even greater generational talent than Tatum, likely needs to be a big, that actually has the clutch gene to carry whichever of Tatum/Brown is still left here by the time we find him.