redslastlaugh wrote:Yea, no, I meant Brad as GM providing a roster for Joe to coach in comparison to Danny as GM putting together a roster for Doc and then Brad to coach.
When Brad was coach he was playing rookie Semi Ojeleye 13 minutes a night in the playoffs for crying out loud, lol. Course, we were down Haywood and Kyrie in those playoffs but still, Brad would play younger players quite a bit ... But it's not clear if that was his preference or the only options Danny gave him to choose from.
And once Brad took over as POBO he's traded like 6 firsts (and did a '28 swap) and he's also traded many, many seconds. And these trades of draft picks have not ever been to trade up or into a draft to get the rookie Brad wants on a favorable rookie scale contract, but Celts sending out draft capital for various NBA players in the league already (Muscala, Springer, Tillman,etc) .
In 2023 Brad acquired the 25th pick for Marcus Smart, traded it down 4 times and acquired Jordan Walsh and 4 seconds. He could have gone into 2024 and traded those extra four 2nds for a pick in that draft and nabbed a player he liked and we'd have the player a full four years cheap... but he hasn't used his assets to do that. Basically, we've acquired rookies to stick them in the G like Walsh, Davison, etc ... Scheierman is the most minutes a rookie has played, which is not even 400 minutes and Baylor is gonna be 25 yrs old in the fall.
And so yea... I don't know the thinking because not having contributors playing minutes for their first four yrs on rookie scale, makes the budgetary math a big freakin problem...
I don't know if Brad believes the draft is too much a crapshoot or if he feels young players are an emotional burden on locker room chemistry? I can only guess because it just seems like the team would be more financially viable if we had some cheaper salaried guys but we've not gone that route
I think you're overreacting.
-You say Scheierman played not even 400 mins as a rookie and will be 25 in the fall. Well that's like 3x the minutes that Hauser played as a rookie and Hauser was about the same age. Seems like Scheierman is on track to be as good as Hauser or perhaps better
-We traded back after trading for the 25th pick, yes. But rumor has it, Walsh is the guy Brad wanted at 25. So he was able to trade back, pick up 4 extra 2nd rounders and still get his guy. Brilliant GM'ing. Walsh hasn't worked out so great so far, but the hit rate is pretty low for any pick 25 or later. Also, Walsh is only 21 yrs old, only played 2 NBA seasons. A lot of guys don't really find their groove till year 3 (or even year 4) in the league. I wouldn't write him off yet..
-If we look at the guys who got picked in the 25-38 range in 2023, it's hard to really even say that Brad missed by picking Walsh..it's not like a list 13 studs with Walsh being the only dud. I guess Strawther is a guy you could look at and say, gosh we could've taken him at 25 instead..especially with his shooting ability and how our offense looks for 3's. But still, that's what, like 1 out of 14 picks in that range of the draft that has hit so far? Can't really fault Brad for missing when the odds are so low. And all of those other GM's in that range missed too. Plus Denver has really been weak these past 2 years in terms of wing depth...which has allowed Strawther to get lots of playing time. He likely wouldn't have gotten even close to that amount of playing time here. Plus he's playing in a system in Denver with lots of ball movement, player movement and one of the greatest passers of all time which allows him to take open looks - in rhythm. It wouldn't be the same in Boston so he likely wouldn't be as effective here.
-We could look at the 2024 draft and do the same thing..if you say we should've taken our 4 2nd rounders and traded up..that gets us where, to like the 19-25 range? Who are we taking there instead of Scheierman? I guess maybe we could've taken Yves Missi. But is he any better than Queta? There's a chance he would've just gotten buried on the depth chart behind all these other bigs we have. As I mentioned earlier, Scheierman is looking like a good pick for where we drafted him..hard to complain much, especially if he ends up being like Hauser..possibly better
-We've traded 1st round picks for Horford, D-white, Brogdon (who we traded along with 2 more 1st rounders for Jrue) ..I think overall the strategy has worked out well..that strategy played a huge role in us winning the 2024 NBA title
You get more rotation level type guys back from the Jrue/KP deals.
