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Victory Cigar 1/2/08 C's v. Rockets

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Who gets the Cigar?

Kevin Garnett
53
77%
Paul Pierce
3
4%
Rajon Rondo
5
7%
Rajon Rondo
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7%
Scott Pollard
3
4%
 
Total votes: 69

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Post#21 » by kmgarnett21 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:14 am

why do i feel like KG's gettin not as much love as he should? KG always gets big boards & he's made plenty of key passes, but when paul or ray has a big scoring game, no one says much about it.

just wondering.
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Post#22 » by Jimmy103 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:15 am

Albanian Damien wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No one's ignoring other's performances but KG was the man of the night BY FAR.


To be fair, looking at the team's +/- #s for the night:
Paul Pierce +22
Kevin Garnett +9
Rajon Rondo +9
Ray Allen +3
Scott Pollard +3
Leon Powe -2
Glenn Davis -3
Kendrick Perkins -3
James Posey -3
Eddie House -5
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Post#23 » by SuperDeluxe » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:16 am

kmgarnett21 wrote:why do i feel like KG's gettin not as much love as he should? KG always gets big boards & he's made plenty of key passes, but when paul or ray has a big scoring game, no one says much about it.

just wondering.


He's running away with 93% of the votes for tonight's Victory Cigar. Are you really complaining about the other 7% of the votes? Did you not read the game thread?
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Post#24 » by doctaJ_92 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:36 am

KGMVP. Just an unbelieveable performance in the 4th, gotta love when KG goes bonkers like that(scoring wise and after scoring wise, haha).
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Post#25 » by Jammer » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:38 am

DraftBoy10 wrote:wow. you guys completely ignore allen's two offensive rebounds which led to those two KG baskets to 94 and 96 points. That's +2 possessions for the Celtics, -2 possessions for the Rockets.


I, and others, are very aware of Ray Allen's two clutch offensive rebounds. They were key. But compared to KG overall offensive AND DEFENSIVE contributions, or Paul Pierce's scoring, or a great game by Scot Pollard, those rebounds were essential, but don't get you the victory cigar. Ray had to do something tonight, he played the most minutes (43).
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Post#26 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:00 am

The +/- isn't entirely fair by itself - you'd have to go back and see who was on the floor for all of KG's and PP's minutes.
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Post#27 » by Celtic Esquire » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:09 am

KG by a landslide.
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Post#28 » by Banks2Pierce » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:19 am

KG also got the crowd going into the stratosphere, calling the balcony out of their seats. I didn't think his intensity could get any higher, but he really fed off the crowd to be even wilder than he normally was, which i didn't think was possible. It was surreal and gave me goosebumps.
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Post#29 » by sully00 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:28 am

My goodness this isn't a stats argument, if you saw the game KG just went toe to toe with the Chinese Giant and cut him down. Dominated him defensively then took it to him offensively, with this team's two centers fouled out.

KG just flat out was puffing smoke in Yao's face all the way home.
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Post#30 » by mr_sunshine » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:33 am

hickfromfrenchlick wrote:The +/- isn't entirely fair by itself - you'd have to go back and see who was on the floor for all of KG's and PP's minutes.


Agreed. Paul may have played a lot when we got the huge lead and maybe KG was on the pine. It's too subjective to measure their impact entirely on +/- numbers alone.
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Post#31 » by humblebum » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:34 am

After KG retires from the game I could totally see him starring in several Hollywood martial arts films. Dude is bad a$$!
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Post#32 » by Jimmy103 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:16 am

mr_sunshine wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Agreed. Paul may have played a lot when we got the huge lead and maybe KG was on the pine. It's too subjective to measure their impact entirely on +/- numbers alone.


Haha I'm not measuring by +/- alone as I voted for KG but Pierce owned that category.

I think some people view the Victory Cigar as the 1 sole contributor who defined the win.

Well guess what, we all know that can't be the case.

I voted for KG because I thought he dominated the game...

That being said I thought Ray's 2 Offensive Rebounds and Paul's 2 passes/the +/- stat were interesting.
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Post#33 » by Bibbinator » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:50 am

Anyone got a gif of KG going crazy after making that shot?

Oh man.. I love his intensity..
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Post#34 » by JJHondo17 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 12:53 pm

A lot of times a player is described as having willed his team to victory, a lot of times this is nothing but hyperbole. In last night's case, Kevin Garnett truly willed his team to victory.
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Post#35 » by darrendaye » Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:02 pm

Gotta give it to KG. Playing him down the stretch at the 5 and having to bang with Yao, clinched the deal there. Pollard was probably the 2nd choice, IMO. Had a vital little scoring/rebounding run when the wheels began to fall of the wagon in the 3rd quarter to help stave off the Houston comeback for a bit.
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Post#36 » by Datruth345 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:11 pm

if you watched the game

it has to be kg

he put the team on his back , and delivered the W
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Post#37 » by daveisceltics » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:49 pm

Garnett all the way.
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Post#38 » by LuniNutz » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:07 pm

KG no doubt!
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Post#39 » by greenbeans » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:34 pm

if any of you have mysapce then go add these guys, they just started a celtics page and theyve been doing a damn good sox one for a while now(breaking stories before ANYBODY else).

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and ya, kg has this one easily

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