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we need another guard

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:41 am
by Red2
rondo and ray allen aren't getting it done. danny needs to make a move

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:49 am
by Jammer
Doc subs by situation.

Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen, Tony Allen and Eddie House average 41 ppg, 11 rpg, and 10 apg.

Doc adjusts for offense and defense based on who is playing well in each particular game.

I do think having a 5th guard option would allow 2 of the current 4 rotation guards to have an off night.

Playing Tony will save Ray's legs the next few seasons, also.

Believe it or not, Pruitt may be the 5th guard. Getting someone better than Pruitt is not as easy as you think, when your trade chips are second round # 60 picks, Leon Powe, Brian Scalabrine, the 2011 First Round Pick, and $3 million cash.

So, the 5th guard is likely Pruitt, who would take Scal or Powe's place on the active roster.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:55 am
by ddb
29-3. That's all i have to say. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:06 am
by canman1971
They just beat the team with the second best record in the NBA on the road and people still complain that players are not getting it done. There has never been a "perfect" team in NBA history. Stop trying to create it.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:45 am
by GuyClinch
Rondo has to be hurt still - he is playing like garbage. And RA is just slumping. But we have TA and House there is no need to make a move..

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:03 am
by Relative Autonomy
canman1971 wrote:They just beat the team with the second best record in the NBA on the road and people still complain that players are not getting it done. There has never been a "perfect" team in NBA history. Stop trying to create it.


great players want to win every game, right?

shouldn't great GMs want to do all they can to eliminate their team's every weakness? The Cs have some roster space open. It would be nice to get another 7 footer or close to it, as well, in case some one goes down. I hope DA doesn't stop trying to create the perfect team, especially when there are people like GP, and probably a lot others, who would like to join the Cs.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:54 am
by bill murray has game
I'd rather not give Doc too many options to choose from. Pruitt can get some playing time down in the d league and I'd like to see what he has before we get anyone else. Let people adjust to their roles on the team and TA fully get over his injury and we could be totally fine.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:51 pm
by Fencer reregistered
Posey.

Adding or developing big-man talent would help on the perimeter by freeing him to play there more.

Anyhow, irrespective of position, we have 9 solid rotation players -- the starters, plus Posey, House, Tony and, it seems, Big Baby.

If I could ideally add a good backup, it would be at the 5, making Pollard the #3 center. If KG played 0 minutes at the 5, and Davis continued to play well, then Posey could play 0 minutes at the 4, and then people would be worrying about our perimeter glut again, not saying there was any kind of guard shortage.

Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:30 pm
by return2glory
Rondo and Ray will be fine. House is a good player. TA is geting better and better. There is no more minutes available for another guard. Also remember we have Pruitt now is a good player as well but doesn't get any minutes.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:28 am
by rambo_ortega
is randy livingston a good, big pg veteran? he averages double digits in assists, a capable scorer and is one of the top players in the d-league?

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:46 am
by Bleeding Green
Rondo and Allen aren't getting it done? LOL.

How many minutes is this other guard going to play? Rondo and Ray Allen can each easily play 33-36 a night. That leaves, 24-30 minutes for the backups. House and Tony Allen can play 30 minutes combined pretty easily.

Unless you have some brilliant idea to acquire a guard who is significantly better than House or Tony Allen (or Rondo or Ray as you seem to want), why bother?

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:26 pm
by Red2
have you watched tony allen bring the ball up? what more evidence do you need? we need another ball handler, if they can shoot or defend big guards so much the better but the main thing is ball handling- someone who can get the second unit going and push the ball and create shots.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:05 pm
by greenbeans
if we need ANYTHING(big if) its a 5. although im very happy with pollard thats the one area we could improve imo.

29-3 and 2 of our atarters arent getting it done??? crazy talk

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:19 pm
by Bleeding Green
Pierce and Ray Allen are capable of bringing the ball up.

I don't get the Tony Allen at PG thing at all. His handle is atrocious.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:25 pm
by greenbeans
Bleeding Green wrote:Pierce and Ray Allen are capable of bringing the ball up.

I don't get the Tony Allen at PG thing at all. His handle is atrocious.


id rather see them put paul there and put po-z at the 3

crunchg time lineup:
Pierce
Ray
Posey
Garnett
Perk
it would be a very slow half court offense but its better then TA turning it over every 1 out of 3 times he brings it up

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:32 pm
by Bleeding Green
Why can't Rondo play in crunch time? He doesn't turn it over, he makes good decisions, he's the best PG defender on the team.

The backup PG should only be playing 12 minutes a night.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:55 pm
by greenbeans
well im all for handing the reins over to rajon but doc aint going for that, atleast not 100% yet. he needs to take his lumps now rather than in may/june.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:24 pm
by Bleeding Green
What lumps, though? He's just a poor FT-shooter which is the only reason to not have him out there in crunch time. But that's just in rare occasions where the other team is intentionally fouling at the end of the game.

It's gonna be the Big 4 by the end of the year.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:26 pm
by greenbeans
Bleeding Green wrote:What lumps, though? He's just a poor FT-shooter which is the only reason to not have him out there in crunch time. But that's just in rare occasions where the other team is intentionally fouling at the end of the game.

It's gonna be the Big 4 by the end of the year.


im all with ya, id LOVE to see Rajon start lighting it up consistently, but, theres still nights where he aint lookin so hot and itd be good to have somebody dependable bring it up. aka NOT tony

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:13 am
by GuyClinch
Let's get Banks to back up Rondo...

http://www.nba.com/games/20080107/DENPHX/boxscore.html

23 points tonight - and he can be had for Scabs probably. Come on Scabs isn't doing anything for us.

Pete