Every criticism from the offseason is coming true...

chakdaddy · Post #1 » by **chakdaddy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:06 am

Posey is the only player besides the Big 3 who is playing well; and Ray's mysterious decline evens that out. Rondo has been nothing, Perk, is invisible. Glen Davis had one nice night as a garbageman against Detroit and has gone back to being a glorified Brandon Hunter. I feel like this team has turned into a pumpkin now that midnight has struck.

raps4life~ · Post #2 » by **raps4life~** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:07 am

you realize your record is 30-6?

Albanian Damien · Post #3 » by **Albanian Damien** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:09 am

raps4life~ wrote:you realize your record is 30-6?

Yeah really. Holy **** it's 3 losses. SLUMPS happen.

ARB729 · Post #4 » by **ARB729** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:13 am

Stop bitching

Post #5 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:16 am

chakdaddy wrote:Posey is the only player besides the Big 3 who is playing well; and Ray's mysterious decline evens that out. Rondo has been nothing, Perk, is invisible. Glen Davis had one nice night as a garbageman against Detroit and has gone back to being a glorified Brandon Hunter. I feel like this team has turned into a pumpkin now that midnight has struck.

Do you mind if I bookmark this thread and bring it back to life in a couple of weeks?

dwestside · Post #6 » by **dwestside** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:16 am

chakdaddy wrote:Posey is the only player besides the Big 3 who is playing well; and Ray's mysterious decline evens that out. Rondo has been nothing, Perk, is invisible. Glen Davis had one nice night as a garbageman against Detroit and has gone back to being a glorified Brandon Hunter. I feel like this team has turned into a pumpkin now that midnight has struck.

RONDO has been nothing because he's hurt. I am honestly fed up with this crap about Rondo. Even when he's hurt he can't get an inch of respect. Everybody's reaction to Rondo being out: "We need a backup point guard." I believe this is true, but I haven't seen a single person point out that our offense has completely FALLEN APART ever since Rondo went out, and nobody seems to want to give him any credit for that.

In keeping with your Cinderella analogy; I agree midnight has struck, but that doesn't mean we still can't hitch up with a rich prince ...

Aaaaand further evidence I'm not a sportswriter.

dwestside · Post #7 » by **dwestside** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:17 am

SuperDeluxe wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Do you mind if I bookmark this thread and bring it back to life in a couple of weeks?

Thank you. Please do.

sp6r=underrated · Post #8 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:19 am

raps4life~ wrote:you realize your record is 30-6?

As another poster pointed out slumps happen. Every team in the league would like to be in your situation.

bballcool34 · Post #9 » by **bballcool34** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:22 am

chakdaddy wrote:Posey is the only player besides the Big 3 who is playing well; and Ray's mysterious decline evens that out. Rondo has been nothing, Perk, is invisible. Glen Davis had one nice night as a garbageman against Detroit and has gone back to being a glorified Brandon Hunter. I feel like this team has turned into a pumpkin now that midnight has struck.

I've noticed that you've made one of these threads after every1 of the Celt's recent losses- stop overreacting.

No doubt the Celts shouldn't have lost this game- but they did, and hopefully they make some adjustments for Wednesday's game.

Post #10 » by **ParticleMan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:22 am

yeah we're in an intensity slump right now. they play with intensity for abuot 10 mins a game, total. that doesn't cut it.

meh, i didn't think we would win 72 games. i didn't even think we'd win 60 at the start of the season. i still think we will win 60 now, which should be good enough for home court. let's get exposed now, so we can fix things, before it happens in the playoffs.

Jammer · Post #11 » by **Jammer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:23 am

When the Celtics are at full strength, they are a viable ECF champion, and viable team to win in the Finals.

Unfortunately, they do not have enough depth to cover the loss of even one of 10 key players.

In the Charlotte loss, Ray Allen and Glen Davis were not available.

Against Washington, Rajon Rondo was not available Saturday, and probably should not have played tonight.

If anything, I would like to see the PGA Celtics get more shots, and particularly
more drives for Paul Pierce (who draws fouls driving), and Ray Allen. They are scorers.
I'd also go to Kevin Garnett more, since he shoots such a high percentage and draws fouls.

Normally, Rajon Rondo will fill up a box score with 4 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals,
in addition to 7 to 9 points. That did not happen the past 2 games.

Eddie House is pretty consistent normally at around 2-5 from 3 Pt. land and 1-2 from 2 point land. Not tonight, 2-9.

Posey doesn't seem to jack it up unless he feels that he is on.
Posey is smart enough to not shoot if he thinks that he is off.

Other than Tony Allen, who gets a few points thru creativity and athleticism, no one else on the team can create their own shot.

I seriously think that other posters over estimate the skills of Glen Davis. He has been fortunate to feast off the opportunities created by playing with PGA and the Celtic 3 point shooters when they were deadly. He can not get his own shot or create a scoring opportunity on his own if you just give him the ball. He needs a particular circumstance to get into position, and tonight, if he would have been 3-4 instead of 1-4 on his free throws, the Celtics would not have had to foul Caron Butler after Garnett's miss because the Celtics would have been up 1 instead of down 1.

Anyway, when the Celtics are healthy, they are very good.

I also seriously question why Scot Pollard hasn't played the last two games against 7 foot Brendon Haywood. There has to be something wrong with him physically, the Celtics desperately needed his inside presence and rebounding when Perk was off the floor.

Tricky Ricky · Post #12 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:26 am

chakdaddy wrote:Posey is the only player besides the Big 3 who is playing well; and Ray's mysterious decline evens that out. Rondo has been nothing, Perk, is invisible. Glen Davis had one nice night as a garbageman against Detroit and has gone back to being a glorified Brandon Hunter. I feel like this team has turned into a pumpkin now that midnight has struck.

Isnt he playing with a pinched nerve?

chakdaddy · Post #13 » by **chakdaddy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:26 am

Rondo has lost all confidence in his J...

Davis isn't good for much unless he's really blocking out and cleaning the glass, he has no lift or ability to do much else.

Post #14 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:31 am

chakdaddy wrote:Rondo has lost all confidence in his J...

Davis isn't good for much unless he's really blocking out and cleaning the glass, he has no lift or ability to do much else.

Rondo played with a stiff back.

Allen is recovering from a pinched nerve.

Big Baby is also recovering from a leg injury. He's also a rookie.

chakdaddy · Post #15 » by **chakdaddy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:32 am

I just can't see how a real contender could put up 4 consecutive stink bomb games against bad teams. This after not having a game this bad the entire season until now...it's kind of unreal.

ARB729 · Post #16 » by **ARB729** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:34 am

Some teams have other team's numbers. For the Sox, it's usually the Rays and the Rangers. It's just one of those things.

ICanOutreboundWalter · Post #17 » by **ICanOutreboundWalter** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:34 am

Wow.

Someone hasn't followed a championship caliber team in a long time.

What do you want, playoff intensity the entire season? I think this lag is absolutely no big deal. Talk to me late in the season and the first round of the playoffs...

Post #18 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:36 am

chakdaddy wrote:I just can't see how a real contender could put up 4 consecutive stink bomb games against bad teams. This after not having a game this bad the entire season until now...it's kind of unreal.

Exhibit A: San Antonio Spurs, 2006-2007 season.

Post #19 » by **ParticleMan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:38 am

the Sox did the same thing. rolled out to a huge start, then played .500 ball for most of the middle of the season, and then turned it on at the end.

it's just tough to keep up the intensity for the whole season. i still think that when they are focused they play great. it's just they've been losing focus. and it hasn't just been the last 4 games, except for the detroit game it's been the last month. but the detroit game is an example of how well we can play when we focus for 48 mins.

Jammer · Post #20 » by **Jammer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:40 am

ICanOutreboundWalter wrote:Wow.

Someone hasn't followed a championship caliber team in a long time.

What do you want, playoff intensity the entire season? I think this lag is absolutely no big deal. Talk to me late in the season and the first round of the playoffs...

The difference is that the Celtics are trying to win these games, but they have been shorthanded.

See my post near the bottom of the first page of this thread explaining the relationship of players and their roles, and who's been missing.

Before the 1968 and 1969 seasons, Celtic Coach Bill Russell said that he no longer cared about winning 60 games per year, he said that he wanted everyone healthy and rested come the playoffs.

So, when Russell missed 5 games due to a hamstring pull, the Celtics lost 5 games. When Sam Jones missed a few games for a leg injury, ditto. But they won the Championship both years. The difference was they knew how to win, and especially how to win close games.

This team is together for the first time. There are players injured, or not available (Pollard?). They still have to figure out to win in a close game on a consistent basis, which really means how to get stops, and HOW TO SCORE, when you have to.