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Post#1 » by LarryBrdismyDad » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:34 pm

Compliments of Chris Sheridan's new free Insider article, he states that Theo Ratliff, when bought out will likely be headed to PHX or Boston.

Also, we expect him to take a buyout in late February and then sign with a team needing extra size -- perhaps Boston or Phoenix -- for the postseason.

Do you think he left Boston on good enough terms to be our big man savior...if healthy enough? I feel after Kurt Thomas, he would be a better pickup then PJ Brown, again, only if healthy to play every game at about 15 minutes a game.
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Post#2 » by Cyclical » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:43 pm

If healthy why not... But is he healthy? Does anyone know how he's doing this year?
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Post#3 » by LarryBrdismyDad » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:50 pm

New update from ESPN as of Jan. 15

Status Alert: Ratliff (knee) has been cleared to do limited workouts and hopes to return to practice in three weeks, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports. "It's feeling good," said Ratliff. "I'm back up on it, I'm not getting much swelling, not getting much soreness." (Jan 15)

Minnesota hasn't been playing him, obviously because he's been resting a bum leg, but also, why would they play an old vet on a young team? Sounds like he could be rested for a playoff run. Just my thoughts.
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Post#4 » by greenbeans » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:06 pm

id love this. Theo was always one of my favorite players(i love shotblocking, good D Centers) when he was on the Hawks and i followed him through Portland and thought hed do GREAT here. . .
he would fit this team PERFECTLY imo.
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Post#5 » by cfan79 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:16 pm

Ratliff sucks, he hasn't been good since 2001. If you want another reason not to sign him then look at how many games he's played the last couple of years.
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Post#6 » by greenbeans » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:20 pm

cfan79 wrote:Ratliff sucks, he hasn't been good since 2001. If you want another reason not to sign him then look at how many games he's played the last couple of years.


thats exactly what they said about Camby before last year
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Post#7 » by LarryBrdismyDad » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:24 pm

I just figure he can't do much worse than Pollard, who has done OK while playing, but Theo's ceiling to help this team is a lot higher than Pollard's. Theo, when healthy, can be the hard nosed type player we need in the playoffs that can grab some boards and block some shots....the things Perkins can't do night in and night out.
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Post#8 » by cfan79 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:25 pm

greenbeans wrote:
thats exactly what they said about Camby before last year


Two totally different levels of players. Camby is injured prone, but he has averaged a double double 7 out of the last 8 seasons.
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Post#9 » by greenbeans » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:31 pm

cfan79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Two totally different levels of players. Camby is injured prone, but he has averaged a double double 7 out of the last 8 seasons.


if you had a poll on the comparisons board 3 years ago, Camby may have been SLIGHTLY ahead of Ratliff, but not by much. Camby has only separated himself head and shoulders as an all-defense guy the past two years. . .
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Post#10 » by Hemingway » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:32 pm

LarryBrdismyDad wrote:I just figure he can't do much worse than Pollard, who has done OK while playing, but Theo's ceiling to help this team is a lot higher than Pollard's. Theo, when healthy, can be the hard nosed type player we need in the playoffs that can grab some boards and block some shots....the things Perkins can't do night in and night out.


I think Pollard does not get the credit he deserves. When healthy he is a great energy guy. Just watching his foot work, his spacing, the little things; you can tell he knows what he is doing out there.
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Post#11 » by cfan79 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:40 pm

greenbeans wrote:
if you had a poll on the comparisons board 3 years ago, Camby may have been SLIGHTLY ahead of Ratliff, but not by much. Camby has only separated himself head and shoulders as an all-defense guy the past two years. . .


3 yrs ago Camby was averaging double Ratliffs numbers.

http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/63/marcus_camby/
http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/80/theo_ratliff/
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Post#12 » by greenbeans » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:08 am

cfan79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



3 yrs ago Camby was averaging double Ratliffs numbers.

http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/63/marcus_camby/
http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/80/theo_ratliff/


okay, pretty much the same exact player up until 03-04
numbers are 97-98 til 02-03

fg% Theo- .491 Camby- .465
ppg Theo- 10.31 Camby- 10.03
rpg Theo- 7.18 Camby- 8.41
blk Theo- 3.1 Camby- 2.1
stl Theo- .61 Camby- .88
g Theo- 53.83 Camby- 48.16
gs Theo- 51 Camby- 28.3
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Post#13 » by GonzoLays » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:12 am

cfan79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



3 yrs ago Camby was averaging double Ratliffs numbers.

http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/63/marcus_camby/
http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/80/theo_ratliff/


I guess we should hold the roster spot open for an NBADL player. :crazy:

Theo Ratliff at the veteran min is steal. I believe you are having trouble understanding this. Or perhaps we should just keep thre roster spot open and hope Camby gets bought out, right? Remember, Camby is TWICE the player Ratliff is. Yea, thats the ticket.
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Post#14 » by Zin5 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:14 am

Theo's been great from what I've seen when healthy, but that's the thing, only when he's been healthy. If he was healthy at the right time, then he would be a great addition, but I'd rather see the C's get someone who's a little less injury prone, instead of having two injury prone guys as the first two centers off the bench in Theo and Pollard.

Also, there's no need to compare Camby and Ratliff. We're just looking for a backup big and take 15-25 minutes. Same thing with the reserve PG spot. Don't write off a guy just because he's not an all star calibur starter. I'd love to have Theo when healthy and would rather have him over Pollard, but we could probably use a little more consistency than those two.
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Post#15 » by cfan79 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:16 am

greenbeans wrote:
okay, pretty much the same exact player up until 03-04
numbers are 97-98 til 02-03


What numbers are you looking at? Camby is a much better player. Ratliff has never averaged a double double his whole career. Even in his best season.
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Post#16 » by GonzoLays » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:19 am

cfan79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What numbers are you looking at? Camby is a much better player. Ratliff has never averaged a double double his whole career. Even in his best season.


Camby puts up numbers on a bad team that can't even win a playoff series. Pass
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Post#17 » by cfan79 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:21 am

GonzoLays wrote:
I guess we should hold the roster spot open for an NBADL player. :crazy:

Theo Ratliff at the veteran min is steal. I believe you are having trouble understanding this. Or perhaps we should just keep thre roster spot open and hope Camby gets bought out, right? Remember, Camby is TWICE the player Ratliff is. Yea, thats the ticket.


Maybe you should read the first page before speaking. Someone else was comparing the two. I never said we could get Camby.

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greenbeans wrote:
thats exactly what they said about Camby before last year


Plus it would be better to get a young guy then a guy who has sucked since the beginning of this century. How is Ratliff a steal? Or better yet we could get a veteran who still is good.
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Post#18 » by GonzoLays » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:27 am

cfan79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Plus it would be better to get a young guy then a guy who has sucked since the beginning of this century. How is Ratliff a steal? Or better yet we could get a veteran who still is good.


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Post#19 » by greenbeans » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:31 am

cfan79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What numbers are you looking at?


their career numbers. . . take a peek

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/s ... atsId=3084

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/s ... atsId=3020

and remember, those were 97-98 to 02-03
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Post#20 » by 3pt % » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:23 am

Dunno about Theo, he hasn't done much for a very long time. His D (albit maybe limited by injuries) was looking pretty average outside of the blocks.

It's like saying Iverson is a great defender because he got a lot of steals..

If he can still move, I'd like to see him back, but back and knee injuries in a C are a real worry.
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