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What the hell is this **** thinking...big baby plays no minutes, scal gets the start all cause kg's out and he put powe on howard which was the obvious mismatch. Doc blew this game with awful coaching

Yeah,and where was Perkins in the 4th?....he finally put him in with less than 2 minutes to go--and that's when we made the comeback.

Huh?

Scal played phenomenal defence. Great game by him. And Powe had a very good game also!

I don`t know why Big Baby didn`t play but Powe and Scal were great!

Doc did a good job today!

Doc is killing me.

I thought Doc should have started Posey to match up on Rashard and play Pierce on Turkoglu and I do not understand why he would start Scal and bench big Baby for the entire 48 minutes. Anyone else think he should have gone to Perk a bit earlier in the 4th as well? That said what an incredible shot by Hedo and a tough hard fought game by the Celtics without KG. Posey gave us a huge spark in the 3rd with his 3's and continued right on through with his clutch play in the 4th.

Doc didn't lose this game. Sorry...I have had it in for Doc for a while, but this loss isn't on Doc.

Actually this loss isn't on anyone.

The Magic beat us while we were short handed.

thebirdman wrote:Huh?

Scal played phenomenal defence. Great game by him. And Powe had a very good game also!

I don`t know why Big Baby didn`t play but Powe and Scal were great!

Doc did a good job today!

+1. I complain about Doc a lot but I didn't have any problems with these moves.

thebirdman wrote:Huh?

Scal played phenomenal defence. Great game by him. And Powe had a very good game also!

I don`t know why Big Baby didn`t play but Powe and Scal were great!

Doc did a good job today!

Totally agree, and this comes from a huge "Big Baby needs much more time" guy.

Big Baby just can't play PF against a team like Orlando and be matched up against one of Lewis/Turkoglu. Scal (and Posey) were the proper choices to get minutes at the 4 and Powe played outstanding today-- and I'd argue while it looks like a mismatch on paper, the Powe did a better job on Howard and with his help D (taking charges, mainly) than Perkins did today.

What the hell is this **** thinking...big baby plays no minutes, scal gets the start all cause kg's out and he put powe on howard which was the obvious mismatch. Doc blew this game with awful coaching

First off, holding Howard to 18pts with 4 turnovers is a pretty solid defensive job, so don't know what your complaining about there.

Secondly, Scal is garbage but he does bring a big away from the hoop so putting him in there with Perkins is not a bad unit. And he plays just as good if not better defense than Big Baby would.

Lastly, this was not a game for Big Baby. If he's out there playing the 4, he's gonna have to stick Rashard or Hedo, who are gonna just go at him all game. Scal actually played good D on Lewis.

Wow. Nonsense.

Next time I'd advise you, in the heat of the moment, to write down your thoughts on a piece of paper (or MS Word), read it, reread it, give it more thought, read it again, give it more thought, THEN post publicly. This was quite reactionary and misguided,

I feel that Doc actually did a pretty good job today. I feel the team overall player well. We just barely lost to one of the best teams on the road without one of the players in the league.

We had a chance to win despite not playing great, can't really complain.

I didn't see this game, but without KG I can't think of an excuse for Baby not to have played at all unless he wasn't fully healthy. Nothing against Powe, Perk & Scal, but without KG we need more rebounding than Scal gives, and better/more fluid finishing ability than Perk & Powe. Baby could have presumably scored easily against Rashard Lewis in the post if we could have gotten that matchup.

With KG in, IMO Posey makes a better matchup option because he can defend Rashard Lewis (despite a height disadvantage) all while we are able to match KG up with Howard - thereby allowing KG to draw Howard out of the paint on offense, while hopefully getting him in foul trouble, and while exploiting Dwight Howard ball handling ability which has been as issues of his in the past on defense. Without KG, however, theoretically I think Baby is the better option to start the game at PF, whereas Posey's better suited against the back-up PF, with some minutes against Rashard.

Howard would have eaten Baby for lunch. Or at least as much of him as he could digest in a 2.5 hour sitting. And, I know he has nifty and quick feet for his size, but, you want him chasing Rashard Lewis around the court? No, you didn't see the game. This wasn't a good matchup for him at this stage of his career.

darrendaye wrote:Howard would have eaten Baby for lunch. Or at least as much of him as he could digest in a 2.5 hour sitting. And, I know he has nifty and quick feet for his size, but, you want him chasing Rashard Lewis around the court? No, you didn't see the game. This wasn't a good matchup for him at this stage of his career.

I agree...although Veal did nothing today.

Leon is getting time because he has recently earned it. With Scal playing poorly (he did play some D) I thought about BB and Leon in the game at the same time but I immediately rejected the notion.

You are right, it just was not in the cards for BB today as rebounds were not the issue today and KG is usually the guy that feeds him.

I think it was a fairly simple decision to start Scal. The question really was "I have no KG at the 4, who can guard Rashard Lewis?" It was a defense related decision to go with Scal, who did a pretty good job on Lewis when he was in there.

I think Doc probably figured BBD was likely to pick up a ton of fouls trying to guard Lewis. Knowing how the NBA treats rookies, I think Doc was probably right.

Baby is as agile as Scal, even if more foul prone. But you can't only look at the advantages the Magic would have without also looking at the advantages we would have. Rashard Lewis is a soft, poor defender down low, and with Scal going up against him that opportunity is left completely unexploited.

Howard wouldn't have had Baby for lunch, because Baby is agile and strong enough to defend him in some capacity, and he isn't afraid to get in foul trouble. Howard is a poor free throw shooter. That said, it wouldn't have been a great matchup on the other end of the floor.

I thought Big Baby should have started at power forward. Then he doesn't even play a minute. I had to check the schedule again and see if it was a back to back, but it isn't.

Baby is as agile as Scal, even if more foul prone. But you can't only look at the advantages the Magic would have without also looking at the advantages we would have. Rashard Lewis is a soft, poor defender down low, and with Scal going up against him that opportunity is left completely unexploited.

Yea but how many times have you seen the C's actually throw the ball in the post to Davis all year? Pretty much zero. He's effective when he's left open and given an opportunity to finish or when he's involved in pick and rolls, but he's not a guy who will exploit a matchup. Baby is great when he's on the floor with the Big 3 because teams leave him open and he's great at finishing the plays. But figuring KG was out and BBD wasn't likely to have as many of those opportunities because of that, I understand why Doc would go with Scal and Powe, two guys who offer more at the defensive end. And Scal does space the floor a little better because he can hit the outside shot occasionally.

Until Baby is able to consistantly hit the elbow jumper, I don't see how he can manage for long stretches as a PF. Particularly in a game versus a big-time shot blocker. Howard was leaving Perk and Powe to attempt to swat anything going at the rim. I believe it would have been just more of the same with Baby in there at PF and without the outside shot, would have been a non-factor in scoring and just clogged the middle and reduced the number of penetrations that Rondo and Pierce were able to produce against a more spread defense. Things don't improve dramatically when Howard sits and Foyle comes in.

Just my take, but does seem to be shared in spirit at least by a few others. Regardless, I don't think a reasonable person can call Doc to the carpet on the decision even if they felt there may have been a matchup available in which to take advantage. Because Howard would at least somewhat mitigate that advantage to some degree. And, again, I'll stress the compromise on the defense you'd be making.