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Bos/Chi/NJ trade idea 

Post#1 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:43 pm

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Jason Kidd

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Ray Allen

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Post#2 » by daveisceltics » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:50 pm

If we get Kidd we should include Pruitt and Scal instead of TA.
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Post#3 » by P2 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:52 pm

How about no?
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Post#4 » by ddb » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:53 pm

we're not getting jason kidd. we're not trading Ray Allen. just face the facts. we have the best record in the NBA.
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Post#5 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:55 pm

I would do this in a heartbeat and you guys are CRAZY not to. Plus we cut a year off of Allens contract and Kidd's is a max deal. We want to win NOW and this does that hands down.
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Post#6 » by CelticsWhat! » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:57 pm

How does that help Chicago?
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Post#7 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:01 pm

CelticsWhat! wrote:How does that help Chicago?


They need a allstar scorer bad. Ray is still an allstar player he is just not adjusting well to being the third wheel. We also keep Rondo. All the alley oops to KG would be Amazing and Kidd finding PP on the break. It would work like clockwork for us. Plus Kidd and Ainge have a very close relationship going back to their Sun's days.
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Post#8 » by CelticsWhat! » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:07 pm

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They need a allstar scorer bad. Ray is still an allstar player he is just not adjusting well to being the third wheel. We also keep Rondo. All the alley oops to KG would be Amazing and Kidd finding PP on the break. It would work like clockwork for us. Plus Kidd and Ainge have a very close relationship going back to their Sun's days.


No, they need a low-post scoring big man bad, and with that trade, they're getting rid of their best in that department, not to mention their starting point guard.
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Post#9 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:11 pm

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No, they need a low-post scoring big man bad, and with that trade, they're getting rid of their best in that department, not to mention their starting point guard.


They could then turn around and trad Gordon and Thomas for some low post scoring.
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Post#10 » by MVP16 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:22 pm

hiphop1 wrote:I would do this in a heartbeat and you guys are CRAZY not to. Plus we cut a year off of Allens contract and Kidd's is a max deal. We want to win NOW and this does that hands down.


Aren't we already winning now? We do have the best record in the league by a pretty good margin right now.

And we have 2 sgs on our roster right now, who you trade for a pg. So who is going to play sg for us? Pierce and Posey would be our only wings left and they are both better suited playing sf.
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Post#11 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:23 pm

Then maybe the Bulls can pull something like this off

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Post#12 » by sully00 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:26 pm

Not for nothing but NJ sucks and one of the primary reasons is that Kidd isn't playing very well. FG% and scoring are down and turnovers are up.

Essentially we are trading Ray Allen and Rondo's production for Jason Kidd and Tony Allen's in the starting line up. I think you are going to end up with a lot less scoring more rebounds and assists and twice as many turnovers.

Beyond that it will disrupt what is working so well right now. We aren't having a problem getting Paul and KG the ball if you make this move you are allowing defenses to collapse on the post. The counter is to go with Eddie over Tony so then you get the shooting but lose the rebounding, assists and defense.

It isn't going to happen but even in fantasy senario I don't know that you would want it to.
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Post#13 » by theman » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:51 pm

sully00 wrote:Not for nothing but NJ sucks and one of the primary reasons is that Kidd isn't playing very well. FG% and scoring are down and turnovers are up.



Sully you are usually spot on, but most people think Kidd is having one of his best seasons ever.
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Post#14 » by daveisceltics » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:18 pm

Yeah, Kidd has been playing great.
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Post#15 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:24 pm

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Aren't we already winning now? We do have the best record in the league by a pretty good margin right now.

And we have 2 sgs on our roster right now, who you trade for a pg. So who is going to play sg for us? Pierce and Posey would be our only wings left and they are both better suited playing sf.


Our other backcourt would be Rondo and House. House plays the two alot anyway.
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Post#16 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:26 pm

And if we know Danny he is lookin into this atleast. He will do what ever it takes to make us win. And getting Kidd would do just that.
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Post#17 » by Relative Autonomy » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:40 pm

wife beaters have no place on the Celtics. how about Paul Pierce just gets to stab Jason Kidd to death for being giant douche bag?
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Post#18 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:55 pm

Relative Autonomy wrote:wife beaters have no place on the Celtics. how about Paul Pierce just gets to stab Jason Kidd to death for being giant douche bag?


WOW you are a sick indivudual and need professional help!
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Post#19 » by Spin Move » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:28 pm

Umm why would kidd be the answer? He wouldnt be, he has slowed down, we have KG we dont need a PG like kidd, we need Allens scoring more then Kidds passing
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Post#20 » by BobbySura » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:43 pm

hiphop1 wrote:Then maybe the Bulls can pull something like this off

Chicago Incoming
Gasol
Lowry

Memphis Incoming
Nocioni
Ty Thomas
Ben Gordon


Wallace
Gasol
Deng
Ray Allen
Kyle Lowry


so chicago does this to end up with..no bench and a pg rotation of kyle lowry and chris duhon??O_O

not to mention boston ends up with uh..eddie house starting sg?

kidd would probably be a better fit on this team than ray.

but kidd is not going to fall out of the sky and we can't afford to give much more than allen for kidd straight up, allen+pruitt, allen+powe or allen+scala

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