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Offensive scheme(s) - complexity versus simplicity

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:36 am
by threrf23
Remember a couple years back, when we re-acquired Antoine, and we went on an impressive run. Our offense looked much better than it had been...A lot of us attributed that to the fact that we had simplified our offense so Antoine could fit in right away. There have been other times in recent history that injuries have forced something similar, and the results have been the same.

So was this a factor tonight, playing without KG and Ray Allen?

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:47 am
by darrendaye
Rondo was afforded more freedom. TA was given more scoring opportunities. Don't forget, Pierce was relegated to a bit player role for all intents and purposes. My recollection of the Walker 2.0 experiment was the offense caught fire during the first several games. I distinctly recall that they had success dumping the ball to Antoine in the post and cutting with Walker finding cutters for easy layups at least twice a game. Also the defense was improved and led to more fast break opportunities as Walker had a surprising block shots surge. HGH? :) I'm not 100% kidding, but, I'm not making allogations either.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:53 pm
by GuyClinch
I think the factor was that we were playing Miami..no offense to our role players who are step up from what we had last year..

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 pm
by BillessuR6
MIA plays the worst defense in the league that helps.

But I agree with darrendaye that a lot had to do with Rondo having more freedom on the offensive end.

When Rondo plays this agressive on offense we just look more dynamic, quck and fluent. When the big three is playing the ball doesn`t move quckly enough since there are a lot of isos called for Pierce and KG.

We play our best basketball when ball movement on offense is good.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:39 pm
by Relative Autonomy
Antoine Walker is awesome

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:29 pm
by threrf23
thebirdman wrote:When Rondo plays this agressive on offense we just look more dynamic, quck and fluent. When the big three is playing the ball doesn`t move quckly enough since there are a lot of isos called for Pierce and KG..


I guess the point of this thread here is to say...

perhaps that a problem? Or simply less than ideal? Doc and Armond Hill should take note IMO, and if nothing else, perhaps work on drawing up plays that don't take us out of our rhythm so much....and/or don't draw up so many plays, and/or modify the offense so the ball is not necessarily going through the high post as often. We can run elements of the Princeton offense without following the textbook, perhaps that could be the balance we're looking for? (though I don't ask that last part with confidence since I only understand the X's and O's so much)

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:31 pm
by threrf23
thebirdman wrote:MIA plays the worst defense in the league that helps.


Definately, but PP scored less than 10 points, and didn't do anything too special otherwise. The general consensus would be that that hurts