Leon Powe

Illuminati · Post #1 » by **Illuminati** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:52 am

His footwork is amazing, is he usually this consistent for you guys?

Datruth345 · Post #2 » by **Datruth345** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:54 am

when he gets minutes he performs...the problem is getting him consistent minutes

i don't understand how Scalabrine gets minutes over him consistently, i can see when the match ups dictate, but powe should be gettin the majority of scals minutes imo

threrf23 · Post #3 » by **threrf23** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:58 am

His footwork isn't usually a problem, but at times he is very foul prone and gets his shot blocked a little much. He's not usually so productive offensively, but showed potential in that sense in summer league. He played well at times last season, but was less than impressive in the preseason this year.

Illuminati · Post #4 » by **Illuminati** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:01 am

He looked like a starter just going after every Heat player offensively/defensively. I really like his game, he is short for his position but he also possess's a mid-range shot that does spread the floor.

I can't wait to see more of him.

Jimmy103 · Post #5 » by **Jimmy103** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:05 am

threrf23 wrote:His footwork isn't usually a problem, but at times he is very foul prone and gets his shot blocked a little much. He's not usually so productive offensively, but showed potential in that sense in summer league. He played well at times last season, but was less than impressive in the preseason this year.

Illuminati wrote:He looked like a starter just going after every Heat player offensively/defensively. I really like his game, he is short for his position but he also possess's a mid-range shot that does spread the floor.

I can't wait to see more of him.

Your best shot blockers (Shaq/Zo/UD) are out...bing bang boom...Leon Powe's success.

threrf23 · Post #6 » by **threrf23** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:16 am

I'll add, per 82games.com he doesn't get his shot blocked as much as I would assume by watching him

Post #7 » by **ParticleMan** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:54 am

He manages to avoid blocked shots but he usually alters his shot to do it. He was showing a nice midrange game today, if he can do that consistently he can be a starter in this league. the guy is super tough and is used to being the focal point of the offense, he was for 2+ yrs at Cal. i love his aggressiveness and smarts. too bad he can't grow 3 inches.

Post #8 » by **Spin Move** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:53 am

You know what, i watched both his big games but im not sold on Powe, he is really hot right now, but he is a black hole, he never passes out on offense once he gets the ball he is going to shoot it. He is overly foul prone, I think he could be a good tough guy off the bench but dont see him as an NBA starter, he is a good rebounder but does not box out as much as baby or perk. Good defender, he is worth keeping around, but i need to see alot more before i am ready to crown him the answer as our top backup big, and that being a position of strength, still he has played very well recently averging 9.5 and 5.1 in 18.1 mpg over the last 6 games, (ok that was skewed high by tonights game) but hes been good recently/

rambo_ortega · Post #9 » by **rambo_ortega** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:58 am

the problem is if big baby and powe plays at the same time. they will be overmatched by opposing bigmen.

Kids Are Alright · Post #10 » by **Kids Are Alright** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:59 am

Watching the two stand together last night, BB looks an inch taller than Powe, kinda surprising.

Powe's foul shooting is a liability for a banger (as a starter).

Baby's step in from three shot was rediculous last night, about 2 ft to the right of the rim....

Were we ever as bad as the Heat last year? :nonono:

sox839 · Post #11 » by **sox839** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:22 pm

Powe was drafted by denver and traded to the celtics. Powe was awesome in college avg 20ppg and 10 boards but had a knee injury otherwise he would have been drafted much higher. The guy would be a college senior right now. The skills were always there the statement was made that having baby and powe on the floor at the same time is a liability is crap. The nba as a league has gotten smaller. Not many teams have a skilled 7 footer anymore sothat is overrated. Werefine with baby, powe and scal and pollard will be back when the ankle heals properly.

greenbeans · Post #12 » by **greenbeans** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:50 pm

Spin Move wrote:You know what, i watched both his big games but im not sold on Powe, he is really hot right now, but he is a black hole, he never passes out on offense once he gets the ball he is going to shoot it. He is overly foul prone, I think he could be a good tough guy off the bench but dont see him as an NBA starter, he is a good rebounder but does not box out as much as baby or perk. Good defender, he is worth keeping around, but i need to see alot more before i am ready to crown him the answer as our top backup big, and that being a position of strength, still he has played very well recently averging 9.5 and 5.1 in 18.1 mpg over the last 6 games, (ok that was skewed high by tonights game) but hes been good recently/

i kind of agree, i think Danny should see if those couple games got anybodys interest too. maybe try and sell high, see what we can get.

JJHondo17 · Post #13 » by **JJHondo17** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm

Leon's energy and aggressive play is infectious and is an intangible that this team needs. Since Jan 5, this team has been lethargicc for long periods of time and win despite this because of their talent. Leon's the kick in the a$$ they need, when their energy level is down.

RapidRondo · Post #14 » by **RapidRondo** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:18 pm

Spin Move wrote:. He is overly foul prone, I think he could be a good tough guy off the bench but dont see him as an NBA starter, he is a good rebounder but does not box out as much as baby or perk.

i saw Powe pass it out a couple times but for the most part he is a bit of a black hole so i agree with that but i don't agree with him being overly foul prone..The guy knows he won't get much chances so when he goes in he gives it his all and wastes the fouls he has..That was his role, doesn't mean he's foul prone..Powe played 36 minutes and got 4 fouls how's that foul prone? Big Baby played 23 minutes and fouled out..Against Detroit in the first game he picked up 3 fouls in about 30 seconds..Big Baby is a lot more foul prone than Powe and I believe Powe is a lot better at boxing out his man than Baby..But Baby is a better at getting offensive boards and finishing under the rim..Powe's solid..Glad we have him and Big Baby to use off the bench on any given night and i liked that i saw Powe's jumper go in..

Post #15 » by **sully00** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:03 pm

A couple of things are apparent with Leon and it is easy for people, even Doc to gloss over, but they are really significant. If you play Leon as a PF he has fighting chance down low offensively and defensively but at C it really is just a little too much.

That kind of match up, Blount and Haslem is an absolute field day for Leon. Blount lacks strength and Haslem is similiar in size and both are perimeter oriented offensively.

I like Powe at the PF spot I don't mind him and Baby together either for stretches especially if the alternative is Scal.

The foul prone issue for both Baby and Powe (they are in a dead heat 6.5 PF per 36 mpg) comes in when they play the center spot. They are giving up a ton of height and it is also kind of a nose guard position for the C's, only Tony Allen is above 4 fouls per 36 for guys who don't rotate to that 5 spot and everyone else is over 4.5 (sans KG of course). Doc has actually been critical of both Baby and Powe for playing 8-10 mins without a foul, mostly when they aren't rebounding either they are kind of in there to be active.

Hopefully this stretch of games convinces Doc to give Powe those backup PF mins.

LongTimeFan · Post #16 » by **LongTimeFan** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:24 pm

I hope and think the Celtics are still developing their young talent. This is to say each of the young guys will get a run sometime during the season. Baby has gotten his and it is pretty clear what he has to work on over the summer.

Powe is getting his. And he looks good out there. He's a lot tougher than Baby. We should see how much he's improved from last year.

Hoperfully Pruitt gets a run too.

Post #17 » by **sully00** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:22 pm

Is should be interesting to see what Doc does tonight. This is a pretty brutal match up for Powe, Josh Howard is bigger than him never mind the length that Dallas has at the 4 and 5. My guess is Scal will start because he can match with Dirk, for about 5 mins. Then we will throw Perk at him and hope either Davis or Powe can hold their own down low.

Cyclical · Post #18 » by **Cyclical** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:49 pm

Post offense has always been Leon's strength - that's what got him drafted. He'll get more minutes when he learnes how to pass, set picks, and play defense - all aspects he's gradually improving on.

Re passing, the guy is a black hole in the paint. You rarely see him pass it out. He'll try to score even if he's triple teamed. Hey, no complaints so far - the man has serious skills down there, but if he wants minutes he's going to have to improve the other aspects of his game.

cdubbz · Post #19 » by **cdubbz** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:45 am

i love leon powe. Being from the bay area i saw powe play in high school and in college and man was he a beast. Powe was the dwight howard of hs and college ball. I think hes doing good...i think he runs funny haha.

GreenOkie · Post #20 » by **GreenOkie** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 4:05 am

is he being showcased for a trade?