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Post#1 » by Relative Autonomy » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:26 pm

Since KG has been out for a couple of games, Scal has been starting. In the three games he has started Scal has averaged some frightening paltry stats:

MPG: 18.3
FG %:.333
3%: NULL
FT%: .500
RPG: 2.0
APG: 1.0
SPG: 0.7
BPG: 0.3
PPG: 1.0

The thing that seems most pathetic to me is that he seems afraid to even hold the ball. When ever he gets it he passes it instantly and i mean instantly. He has given up a couple scoring opportunities for reasons I can't understand and its not like he made good pass for the score. He seemed to me to always give the ball to someone with worse shot than he had.

To the Scal supporters out there, does anyone still think he deserves to get any PT over anyone else in the roster? Does anyone think he is going to be NBA after his contract with the Cs run out? Does anyone know why he is starting over Posey, Davis or Powe?
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Post#2 » by daveisceltics » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:35 pm

They give him the playing time because hes a vet.
I would love to see Glen start with KG out.
But as far and Posey and Powe, i like them as a spark off the bench.
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Post#3 » by greenbeans » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:38 pm

but he does all the INTANGIBLES sooooo good!!

ahahahahaha, cmon, i know your out there. try and defend the bum now.. . how ya gonnna spin this one??
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Post#4 » by P2 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:39 pm

I would trade him for any other player, just to get rid of him.
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Post#5 » by cope1 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:43 pm

Who cares? POSEY is the finisher, it doesn't matter who starts...they are just popcorn until Posey comes in. Leave Scalabutt alone...it doesn't matter; he gives the effort the talent is just not there.
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Post#6 » by greenbeans » Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:57 pm

cope1 wrote:Who cares? POSEY is the finisher, it doesn't matter who starts...they are just popcorn until Posey comes in. Leave Scalabutt alone...it doesn't matter; he gives the effort the talent is just not there.


ahhhh, out they come. yeah, lets play a guy 18mpg where "the talent is just not there". especially since we have guys on the bench who are trying ot develop and theyre ALREADY better than this scrub. cmon, you really think he deserves 18 f***ing minutes?? its a joke that he even gets to wear that uniform. but hey, maybe he'll hit one out of his next ten WIDE OPEN 3's. hes a disgrace to redheads, the color green, anyone he has mistakenly made eye contact with over the past week, just a disgrace to humanity in general. trade him for the last pick in the draft.
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Post#7 » by SLCceltic » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:11 pm

greenbeans wrote:but he does all the INTANGIBLES sooooo good!!

ahahahahaha, cmon, i know your out there. try and defend the bum now.. . how ya gonnna spin this one??



i have been somewhat of a scal supporter------as a 10th man

i also advocate davis starting over perk
i have no idea why scal is starting aside from building his confidence back up
scal has become an enforcer that can knock down an occasional 3---i call him an enforcer in that he is good at team defense and will use all 6 of his hacks

i believe that the organization is saving baby for the post-season so that his rookie ineptitudes can be countered by the lack of scouting available on him

baby will be a starter in this league--rookies f-up a lot in high pressure and also come up huge in certain times

#17 in almost locked in---barring significant injury
TA replacing an injured rayray is about the max we can afford
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Post#8 » by return2glory » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:19 pm

Scalabrine is saving himself for the playoffs.
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Post#9 » by cisco » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:31 pm

How does Scal go from being the 10th-12th man on the roster to starting in place of KG? Especially when there are better players that deserve it more (Powe, Baby, Posey)? :banghead: I don't get it. Just another reason why I don't really care for Doc Rivers and some of his asinine decisions. :evil:
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Post#10 » by SLCceltic » Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:34 pm

return2glory wrote:Scalabrine is saving himself for the playoffs.


wtf do you mean?
davis is a starter in this league for anyone, but he is a rook
davis will play significant min for us in the post season---count on it

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Post#11 » by GWVan » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:05 pm

so, are you saying that KG is not in any danger of losing his starting job while he is out?
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Post#12 » by captain_cheapseats » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:24 pm

Relative Autonomy wrote:Does anyone know why he is starting over Posey, Davis or Powe?

Maybe Doc is trying to send us all a reminder: "yeah, we have the best record in the NBA, but don't get too cocky! Remember I am fully capable of screwing this up at any time. Don't believe me, huh? How about you take a little Scals in the starting 5.....just 18 per for now, but if you're not careful I'll make it more. And oh yeah, we played some small ball last night and it reminded me of just how much fun it is. So unless you want 20+ minutes of Scal, along with Tony Allen playing PF at the end of close games like last season, I'd better hear a whole lot more applause when they say my name during introductions."

Or more likely they are just using this as an opportunity to try and shop him a 'bit before the deadline. If DA has proven one thing it's that he doesn't like passive big men who don't hit the boards, so I'd guess Scals days are numbered.
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Post#13 » by reggielewis » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:40 pm

with the exception of miami maybe, the games scal has started imo has fit the matchup. baby and powe are not good matchups with Rashard and Dirk either imo. Scal is that type of big guy that can defend the 3 pt bigs, annoy some people, possibly wear them out a bit before the 2nd unit comes in. i love Powe and baby but having them guard Lewis or Dirk for long periods of time would be a nightmare. Powe did an ok job on dirk but u really need a more mobile big and definetly someone who has height. Dirk was basically looking right over Powe and although powe held his own, the matchup was not great imo.
Also Scal doesnt need to score, i mean it would be nice but thats not his thing so to me it is smarter to play him with a bunch of scorers so he doesnt have that target to be the scorer. thats when he tries to do too much. Powe and baby actually can score so playing them with that 2nd unit is cool becuz they can put the ball in the hole and therefore the scoring droughts arent as bad.
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Post#14 » by BrokenLeftyJumper » Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:57 pm

with the exception of miami maybe, the games scal has started imo has fit the matchup. baby and powe are not good matchups with Rashard and Dirk either imo. Scal is that type of big guy that can defend the 3 pt bigs, annoy some people, possibly wear them out a bit before the 2nd unit comes in. i love Powe and baby but having them guard Lewis or Dirk for long periods of time would be a nightmare. Powe did an ok job on dirk but u really need a more mobile big and definetly someone who has height. Dirk was basically looking right over Powe and although powe held his own, the matchup was not great imo.
Also Scal doesnt need to score, i mean it would be nice but thats not his thing so to me it is smarter to play him with a bunch of scorers so he doesnt have that target to be the scorer. thats when he tries to do too much. Powe and baby actually can score so playing them with that 2nd unit is cool becuz they can put the ball in the hole and therefore the scoring droughts arent as bad.


Totally agree. Some posters seem to think that the starting lineup is the end all be all, and that by starting Scal that Doc is saying that Scal is better than Davis or Powe. I think Doc figures the team has plenty of scoring and rebounding in the starting lineup already. Why put Davis or Powe in there and have them picking up fouls left and right against Dirk or Rashard? Why not play them in situations where they actually do have an advantage and can be most helpful to the team, like playing against the other teams backups or in roles where they are required to score and rebound?
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Post#15 » by BillessuR6 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:09 pm

You put % outthere like they mean something...

FG %:.333 1-3
3%: NULL 0-2
FT%: .500 1-2

He took 5 shots. He knows why he is on the court and if he can`t make a shot at least he isn`t shooting.

One thing you forgot about is his defence. All the matchups were good for Scal, so I have no problem with him getting some minutes in these games.

His defence on Lewis against ORL was phenomenal and that is his biggest strenght. He can annoy the quick PF`s in this league...

Scal is a 11-12th guy on a roster and can be useful in limited time. When we play agaisnt a team with quick PF he should get some minutes at the 4.

Is he a starter? Of course, not. But sometimes he can be useful.

I have no problem with him in the last 3 games. I thought he had a great game against ORL, a good one against MIA and poor one against DAL. All in all a very solid job in his 3 starts, if you are not just looking at boxscores and actually watch him play on both ends of the floor, of course!
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Post#16 » by floyd » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:11 pm

SLCceltic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



wtf do you mean?
davis is a starter in this league for anyone, but he is a rook
davis will play significant min for us in the post season---count on it

if you are not responding to me have a great weekend---we're off till tues


I believe he was being sarcastic. You must not be from New England. We're dry.
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Post#17 » by return2glory » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:22 pm

SLCceltic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



wtf do you mean?
davis is a starter in this league for anyone, but he is a rook
davis will play significant min for us in the post season---count on it

if you are not responding to me have a great weekend---we're off till tues


It was a joke SLCceltic.

Besides, we are 2-0 with Scalabrine in the lineup. :wink:

But you have to admit nobody takes the ball out better than Scalabrine after a make basket. The guy is so focused and intense when it comes to that.
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Post#18 » by greenbeans » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:41 pm

reggielewis wrote:with the exception of miami maybe, the games scal has started imo has fit the matchup. baby and powe are not good matchups with Rashard and Dirk either imo. Scal is that type of big guy that can defend the 3 pt bigs, annoy some people, possibly wear them out a bit before the 2nd unit comes in. i love Powe and baby but having them guard Lewis or Dirk for long periods of time would be a nightmare. Powe did an ok job on dirk but u really need a more mobile big and definetly someone who has height. Dirk was basically looking right over Powe and although powe held his own, the matchup was not great imo.
Also Scal doesnt need to score, i mean it would be nice but thats not his thing so to me it is smarter to play him with a bunch of scorers so he doesnt have that target to be the scorer. thats when he tries to do too much. Powe and baby actually can score so playing them with that 2nd unit is cool becuz they can put the ball in the hole and therefore the scoring droughts arent as bad.


i think we all agree that Powe or Davis would be over their heads with a Dirk/Lewis matchup but what about Posey??? why he isnt starting in place of KG is insane imo
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Post#19 » by threrf23 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:33 am

I don't mind those statlines, he has made some contributions which we could use with KG's injury, and he's better off in the game when PP & Ray (and a C) are also in the game, rather than when we need scoring and/or rebounding a bit more.

Though, unless its a rare night where he's contributing more than usual, I never like to see him play more than 10-15 mpg
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Post#20 » by Rocky5000 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:49 am

Maybe he's being showcased. Too bad for us, it's better to keep Scal's abilities a mystery.

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