Jarrett Jack or Gabe Pruitt?
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Jarrett Jack or Gabe Pruitt?
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Jarrett Jack or Gabe Pruitt?
That is to say, could one prove to be a better investment to the Celtics long term as a young back up point guard to Rajon Rondo?
For me, I like the idea of Jack as an alternative to a short term solution in Cassell. Cassell makes sense now and Jack might turn into a good sense move long term.
Jack has size and is said to have more of a true point guard's mentality to the common shoot first lead guards. NBADraftdotnet compared him to Eric Snow and I know that Tom Heinsohn's a fan of Snow. Not to mention, House is signed for one season and Pruitt might be a project. But, Gilbert Arenas was a second round pick as well. And he proved that self motivation (and a huge chip on the shoulder) can supersede your talent. So, you never know.
I'm of the opinion that Jack could become expendable sooner than later if Portland feels that Sergio Rodriguez is their future at point guard. It's no secrete that the front office really likes his talent.
Perhaps, Ainge might go with a young veteran with more seasons under his belt if Rivers believes that Pruitt's impact on the Celtics is too far down the road. I don't know. I just know that Ainge preferred to acquire Sebastian Telfair over drafting a young prospect, Randy Foye, in the 2006 draft.
Jarrett Jack
$1,217,400
2008-2009
$2,002,623
2009-2010
$2,899,798 (Qualifying Offer)
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For me, I like the idea of Jack as an alternative to a short term solution in Cassell. Cassell makes sense now and Jack might turn into a good sense move long term.
Jack has size and is said to have more of a true point guard's mentality to the common shoot first lead guards. NBADraftdotnet compared him to Eric Snow and I know that Tom Heinsohn's a fan of Snow. Not to mention, House is signed for one season and Pruitt might be a project. But, Gilbert Arenas was a second round pick as well. And he proved that self motivation (and a huge chip on the shoulder) can supersede your talent. So, you never know.
I'm of the opinion that Jack could become expendable sooner than later if Portland feels that Sergio Rodriguez is their future at point guard. It's no secrete that the front office really likes his talent.
Perhaps, Ainge might go with a young veteran with more seasons under his belt if Rivers believes that Pruitt's impact on the Celtics is too far down the road. I don't know. I just know that Ainge preferred to acquire Sebastian Telfair over drafting a young prospect, Randy Foye, in the 2006 draft.
Jarrett Jack
$1,217,400
2008-2009
$2,002,623
2009-2010
$2,899,798 (Qualifying Offer)
Source: Hoopshype
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The question I've about Pruitt regards his maturation as a point guard and basketball player in the NBA. For certain players in the league, the minutes you gain early in your professional career can go a long way in developing you into a legitimate player and one that can have longevity. I feel like playing time is even more important to Pruitt with his transition from one position to another. However, on this team, he isn't in a position to gain significant minutes due to his inexperience being a rookie and the current make up of the roster and those teammates ahead of him on the depth chart.Rivers wants to coach those that can help the team win now and Pruitt doesn't make you believe he's in the same breathe of certain teammates yet. Can Pruitt even make the transition to point guard full time or will he be a combo guard? For one thing, Pruitt does have longer range on his shooting and perhaps is a better natural shooter than Rondo. He might even be more of an offensive threat than Rondo with all things given equal. Other then this, the rest of Pruitt's potential as a point guard is up in the air. It's hard to tell with him seeing as he doesn't play regularly and his statistics won't ever be consistent this season.
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...in what universe is Jarrett Jack even available? He's playing outstanding rotation minutes for Portland...do you spend MLE money on him when he's a FA? Probably not and that isn't for another year after this one...
If I was a Boston fan, i'd be paying more attention to Ryan Gomes up in Minny...he's averaging about 19ppg on 47% shooting with over 40% from 3point land and the T-Wolves are winning games not and staying competitive every night...
Celts can land a vet pg in the off-season very easily and ideally they'll have one before the year is through, but getting a YOUNGER player who can come off the bench and eventually start 3-4 years from now would be nice...
If I was a Boston fan, i'd be paying more attention to Ryan Gomes up in Minny...he's averaging about 19ppg on 47% shooting with over 40% from 3point land and the T-Wolves are winning games not and staying competitive every night...
Celts can land a vet pg in the off-season very easily and ideally they'll have one before the year is through, but getting a YOUNGER player who can come off the bench and eventually start 3-4 years from now would be nice...
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wiseguys wrote:I doubt theres a way to get him though.
Jack's salary is movable. The question is could Ainge have an interest in Jack and/or is Portland really on the fence with Jack enough so to trade him. It all depends on whether or not they're content with the players at point guard, Blake, Jack and Rodriguez, or will they look to the draft or free agency for a steady choice.
I'd read on the Portland board that some of their fans would've an interest in Glen Davis but his salary doesn't match up with Jack's.
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Jack is more movable than many of you Celtics fans percieve him to be. The Blazers have high hopes for Rudy Fernandez next season and may be willing to part with Jack if the right deal came along. The only thing is, Boston would have to part with a player like Glen Davis (or someone like that) for the Blazers to consider dealing Jack which I'm fairly sure ya'll would not do. Granted, Jack would be a good backup on the Celtics but the Blazer would need a decent return to agree to such a deal. I guess there's always room for three-ways, but I don't know how many realistic trade options there are between Boston and Portland.
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Ainge might not be willing to part with Davis given the lack of big men on the roster. I mean you've the aforementioned Davis and fellow undersized power forward Powe playing center often. Pollard sees playing time seldom and Garnett doesn't much care for playing in the middle but will if called upon to do so.
I get the feeling that unless a trade scenario is there for Cassell or he's bought out this season by the Clippers. Those two open roster spots for Boston will remain open until the off season. There's just nothing out there in way of center or point guard help. Nothing feasible at least until the off season.
I get the feeling that unless a trade scenario is there for Cassell or he's bought out this season by the Clippers. Those two open roster spots for Boston will remain open until the off season. There's just nothing out there in way of center or point guard help. Nothing feasible at least until the off season.
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While Jack would certainly be more useful to this teams goal of winning now I don't know that Jack is a better talent than Pruitt. I don't think there is a lot of room for improvement in Jack's game he is a good back up PG. But he is also the kind of guy who commands way too much money on the market for his game.
I don't think that Boston and POR match up well for trade purposes. The Blazers want to upgrade their PG situation and will look to package some of their expendable young guys to do so.
I think there will be guys available after the deadline that will fill this team's needs.
I don't think that Boston and POR match up well for trade purposes. The Blazers want to upgrade their PG situation and will look to package some of their expendable young guys to do so.
I think there will be guys available after the deadline that will fill this team's needs.
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JACK.
Didn't we have this discussion with West already? These Portland guys have upside too. I remember people trying to write off Roy in the same way. <g> Roy doesn't have "upside" he isn't "athletic." that was pretty much the party line around here.. What is this the BillfromBoston effect? Only our scrubs have upside?
If Gabe Pruitt ends up being as good as Jack I would be very pleasead never mind having upside BEYOND Jack.. Let's be realistic here.
Pete
Didn't we have this discussion with West already? These Portland guys have upside too. I remember people trying to write off Roy in the same way. <g> Roy doesn't have "upside" he isn't "athletic." that was pretty much the party line around here.. What is this the BillfromBoston effect? Only our scrubs have upside?
If Gabe Pruitt ends up being as good as Jack I would be very pleasead never mind having upside BEYOND Jack.. Let's be realistic here.
Pete