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That guys like Powe and Big Baby are an important part of this team. I have been a big supporter of trading them for vets. But now I realize why would we. What more can u ask of undersized big men than to pretty much average double doublesoff the bench when your best big man/player is out.

I agree with you 100%

There's no reason to move Powe or Baby. On a team that's built around superstars you need to have good role players that fit in on and off the court. Despite being "undersized" they're both hard working players who LOVE the game of basketball. And to top it all off they're quality young players and quality young men.

We need heart....no egos. Davis and Powe have the heart, desire, will, whatever you want to call it to help this team win.

and mark my words when i say that Powe AND Davis will create a good reputation for themselves come playoffs. Mark my word.

If we get Sam and move Eddie to SG our bench can be the best in the NBA with Baby and Powe.

Not to mention with TA and Posey.

take the lakers for example. Their bench gets a lot of attention because the whole country/media generally watches most Lakers games (Kobe).

And rightly so. they have a great bench all the way. Guys like Farmar, Ariza, Walton, Radmanovic, Turiaf. Some of the best depth in the league.


But our bench never gets their due. It's not necessarily super talented like Phoenix, but it is a very strong bench.

Posey (one of our most valuable players), House (a top shooter), Allen (one of the most underrated swingmen), Davis (as capable as any of Detroit's role/bench players), Powe (a force), Scalabrine (a top role player)

Add to that a healthy Pollard (smart 7 footer that can score and defend) and Sam Cassell (and possibly PJ Brown) and it's as good as any bench in the NBA

many scorers, great defense

stretch wrote:take the lakers for example. Their bench gets a lot of attention because the whole country/media generally watches most Lakers games (Kobe).

Posey (one of our most valuable players), House (a top shooter), Allen (one of the most underrated swingmen), Davis (as capable as any of Detroit's role/bench players), Powe (a force), Scalabrine (a top role player)

Add to that a healthy Pollard (smart 7 footer that can score and defend) and Sam Cassell (and possibly PJ Brown) and it's as good as any bench in the NBA

Did return2glory come to your house and write those last 2 paragraphs? Just kiddin'.

Anywho, I agree with your point about media exposure. More people have heard of Daniel Gibson than Rajon Rondo and may even think he's more talented because of the huge # of Cavs games pumped out by TNT, ABC, and ESPN. Those guys (especially the latter 2) have a thing for marketable swingmen that dunk really nice (regardless of record....see Kevin Durant). It's kind of odd when you compare the number of their broadcasted games to New Orleans or Utah, who don't have the super-flashy SportsCenter highlights but have better records anyway.

As for our bench, I'm looking forward to the offseason almost as much as I am for the postseason (bizarre, I know). I'm interested to see what positions Ainge thinks need solidifying, as well as what he'll do in the draft (as always).

Yup

Some of us have been saying this for a long time. With 3 stars, all the role players just need to do their jobs. If Ray Ray is not the 3rd star, but Rondo steps up then it's the same deal. Powe and Big Baby can contribute just as much to titles here in Boston as Malik Rose did in San Antonio!

our bench does the job

i love the young hungry bigs--i still want to see baby more w/ 1st unit

I still don't see Baby or Powe as anything special. At least Powe, Baby may be an okay back-up to have at PF.

celticfan34231 or whatever the numbers are...

I don't see how you can look at guys like Powe and Davis and say that they're not quality role players. They both are high quality rebounders on both ends of the court. They are both decent finishers around the basket and both are decent free throw shooters as well. They play hard every minute their in the game.

Davis even has the potential to develop into a legit triple threat with his face up jumper, his passing, and his ability to attack the rim off the dribble (this he does not do at an NBA level yet but he has the ability to take people off the dribble as he showed in college).

Right now I'd take Perk/Powe/Davis over McDyess and Maxiell. I'd also take our three bigs over Oberto/Elson/Horry. I think that these guys are underrated for Boston. They just need to be paired up with adequate front court partners. The only big rotations I'd like to see are KG/Perk, KG/Powe or Davis or Posey or Scal, Perk/Posey or Scal or Davis, and Davis/Powe. Which basically means no Posey/Powe or Davis and no Scal/Powe or Davis. Those pairings are just too small IMO and they take away from the effectiveness of Powe and Davis.

Big Baby is 22
Leon Powe is 23
Kendrick Perkins is 23
Rajon Rondo is 21
Gabe Pruitt is 21

we still got some talented youth. lets hold on to em...

humblebum wrote:celticfan34231 or whatever the numbers are...

I don't see how you can look at guys like Powe and Davis and say that they're not quality role players. They both are high quality rebounders on both ends of the court. They are both decent finishers around the basket and both are decent free throw shooters as well. They play hard every minute their in the game.

Davis even has the potential to develop into a legit triple threat with his face up jumper, his passing, and his ability to attack the rim off the dribble (this he does not do at an NBA level yet but he has the ability to take people off the dribble as he showed in college).

Right now I'd take Perk/Powe/Davis over McDyess and Maxiell. I'd also take our three bigs over Oberto/Elson/Horry. I think that these guys are underrated for Boston. They just need to be paired up with adequate front court partners. The only big rotations I'd like to see are KG/Perk, KG/Powe or Davis or Posey or Scal, Perk/Posey or Scal or Davis, and Davis/Powe. Which basically means no Posey/Powe or Davis and no Scal/Powe or Davis. Those pairings are just too small IMO and they take away from the effectiveness of Powe and Davis.

KG is a first ballot HoFer, lets not use their play with him as a starting basis of Powe and Baby beign great. An "adequate" player is more along the lines of Jamison or Odom [assuming you want Baby and Powe on the inside to be complimented offensively]

depends what you mean by role players. If you mean 12th man then yeah Powe is good, but I wouldn't be suprised to find someone like him in the NBDL waiting to get called up. He's one definable skill is rebounding and that's it.

For Baby I agree that he can become an okay back-up at PF. But at Center, he's standing reach is still just too small to play any kind of effective one on one defense. And he's body type limits his ability to intimidate any drivers to the hoop.

So I can see Baby DEVELOPING into a decent back-up PF. But right now he's nothing but a Perk who can catch on offense [exchange one on one post moves for he's shaky jumper.] And on defense he's just a good rebounder/help defender.

Right now both should be in the third option role for big men and I only see Baby as beign able to develop beyond that.

celticfan42487 wrote:I still don't see Baby or Powe as anything special. At least Powe, Baby may be an okay back-up to have at PF.

wow!

big baby is special (size, handles, atheleticism, and desire)------he will be able to start for anyone
watching him play, you have to say he is mature.....he and the perkinator should at worst split time



powe is a player that is driven and has a lot of natural ability......i would be shocked if he didnt overachieve hs entire career and be a fantastic role player off any bench

im just glad we have them!!!








i guess i cant wait for the draft either-------danny will get us the best talent

celticfan42487 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



KG is a first ballot HoFer, lets not use their play with him as a starting basis of Powe and Baby beign great. An "adequate" player is more along the lines of Jamison or Odom [assuming you want Baby and Powe on the inside to be complimented offensively]

depends what you mean by role players. If you mean 12th man then yeah Powe is good, but I wouldn't be suprised to find someone like him in the NBDL waiting to get called up. He's one definable skill is rebounding and that's it.

For Baby I agree that he can become an okay back-up at PF. But at Center, he's standing reach is still just too small to play any kind of effective one on one defense. And he's body type limits his ability to intimidate any drivers to the hoop.

So I can see Baby DEVELOPING into a decent back-up PF. But right now he's nothing but a Perk who can catch on offense [exchange one on one post moves for he's shaky jumper.] And on defense he's just a good rebounder/help defender.

Right now both should be in the third option role for big men and I only see Baby as beign able to develop beyond that.

...this may be the worst basketball talent analysis i've seen this year...

Glen Davis and Leon Powe are at a minimum going to become back-up big men who can be first off the bench types...if Davis can develop the work ethic needed to get his body into real condition then he is starting caliber talent...Powe is a back-up big who could start on some teams depending on how dominant the other front-court player is (think Haslem)...

...some people on this board really need to get some perspective by paying more attention to the rest of the league as well as league history...

Powe and Davis are like young versions of Oakley and Mason...in 2-3 years these guys will both be well-paid contributors to playoff teams...

I stand by my remarks.

celticfan42487 wrote:I still don't see Baby or Powe as anything special. At least Powe, Baby may be an okay back-up to have at PF.