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Post#1 » by sox839 » Mon Mar 3, 2008 5:55 am

I was watching barkley talk about cassell coming to the celtics and he had basically nothing good to say about it all negative. Basically said he is to old and won't help against detroit. He is an idiot we needed a pure backup point how can he say it won't help. He just hates the celtics has had nothng good tosay about them and i hope he eats his words and ray,paul kg and even scalabrine will hopefully have something old charlie wishes he had a championship ring.
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Post#2 » by SonicYouth34 » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:06 am

He's just mad cause the Celts could win a championship and he never did. Also take what Barkleys says with a grain of salt and just enjoy his antics
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Post#3 » by TheMartian » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:12 am

It's called ENVY.
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Post#4 » by dwestside » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:14 am

It is impressive how little the national media has to say about the Celtics. Even after having great success, often the only mention is of 'the big three' and it's usually in passing, or brought up while discussing LA, Phoenix, Dallas, etc. I suppose it has something to do with all the attention the western conference has been getting with all these transactions.

Yeah I'm sort of indifferent in my opinion of Charles. I think he can be entertaining at times, and at other times, his laziness is infuriating. Like the time he referred to Paul Pierce as a 'young guy.'

I remember hearing Ernie Johnson on WEEI talking about Inside the NBA, and it was almost as if he was revealing a secret that the fact that the show isn't rehearsed. Freakin' duh. Watch 30 seconds of that show and ask yourself how much actual research is done.
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Re: charles barkley just hates the celtics 

Post#5 » by crackjack » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:37 am

sox839 wrote:He is an idiot we needed a pure backup point how can he say it won't help.


I think the signing of Cassell will help the Celtics, but I wouldn't call him a "pure backup point".

First of all, he's not a pure point guard. He's a good passer, but he does also look for his own shots, too. More so than most pure point guards.

Also, he's not going to be a pure backup either. Don't be surprised to see Cassell in the game during the closing minutes, especially if it's the playoffs.
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Post#6 » by John Locke » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:35 am

Barkley always thought that he was on the best team in the league but never won a title, so I'm glad he thinks that we don't have a good team.
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Post#7 » by GreenGrizz » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:45 am

Let him go. He was abused by our old big three.
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Post#8 » by C-West » Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:10 am

If you listen to Chuck in hopes of hearing insightful or intelligent basketball knowledge or opinions, then YOU are the idiot.

He does not watch games, he does not know anything about the players, and he certainly does not even try to see where the league is going.

He's a media hack and a wanna-be entertainer. And that's it. If you think he's more and you get worked up about it - that's your problem.
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Post#9 » by BobbySura » Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:27 am

well, cassell IS old and we have no proof that he'll help against detroit.
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Post#10 » by mr_sunshine » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:25 pm

crackjack wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I think the signing of Cassell will help the Celtics, but I wouldn't call him a "pure backup point".

First of all, he's not a pure point guard. He's a good passer, but he does also look for his own shots, too. More so than most pure point guards.

Also, he's not going to be a pure backup either. Don't be surprised to see Cassell in the game during the closing minutes, especially if it's the playoffs.


Way to be nitpicky for no apparent reason. Cassell is obviously a pure PG compared to who the Cs had backing up Rondo prior to his arrival. Eddie House is clearly an undersized SG, and Tony Allen is more of a slasher than distributor. Sam is obviously a superior ballhandler and much more adept at running the offense than either of those two. And obviously he'll close out games when he's one of the best FT shooters in the league and has a lot of playoff experience to boot.
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Post#11 » by GuyClinch » Mon Mar 3, 2008 1:35 pm

The NBA doesn't have alot of "pure" PGs anyway. The entire concept is a bit of myth. The prototype NBA PG - Bob Cousy was a total chucker. For every Kidd and Stockton there was a Cousy, Pistol Pete, Tiny and more.

Sam Cassell is ABSOLUTELY an NBA PG...

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Re: charles barkley just hates the celtics 

Post#12 » by Tricky Ricky » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:02 pm

sox839 wrote:I was watching barkley talk about cassell coming to the celtics and he had basically nothing good to say about it all negative. Basically said he is to old and won't help against detroit. He is an idiot we needed a pure backup point how can he say it won't help. He just hates the celtics has had nothng good tosay about them and i hope he eats his words and ray,paul kg and even scalabrine will hopefully have something old charlie wishes he had a championship ring.


doesnt tommy say pretty much the same thing?
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Post#13 » by sully00 » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:08 pm

The thing with Barkley is that the perspective he gives is a gamblers insight, not an analyst. Basically he thinks that DET will beat BOS and Sam and PJ aren't moving his money, frankly who can blame him? While Chuckles losses are well reported he wins a quite a bit too.

Ask yourself the question in reverse. If you thought the C's could beat DET do Juan Dixon and Theo Ratliff change your mind?
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Post#14 » by CelticsWhat! » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:36 pm

sully00 wrote:The thing with Barkley is that the perspective he gives is a gamblers insight, not an analyst. Basically he thinks that DET will beat BOS and Sam and PJ aren't moving his money, frankly who can blame him? While Chuckles losses are well reported he wins a quite a bit too.

Ask yourself the question in reverse. If you thought the C's could beat DET do Juan Dixon and Theo Ratliff change your mind?


The difference between what the Celtics did and what the Pistons did is the Celtics addressed their two biggest needs. The Pistons didn't. I actually think Ratliff is a good pick up for them if he can stay healthy, but Juan Dixon probably won't even get off the bench. Also, as much as I like the Ratliff signing for them, I won't mind if he's taking away minutes from Maxiell, because he's burned us so far this year.
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Post#15 » by DorfonCeltics » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:47 pm

As much as Charles doesn't know about today's NBA he makes up for with pure comedic foot in mouth situations. I love the "character" that is Charles Barkley and I really don't take offense at what he says about the C's. He just loves giving Danny Ainge **** anyway he can.
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Post#16 » by tombattor » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:59 pm

sox839 wrote:I was watching barkley talk about cassell coming to the celtics and he had basically nothing good to say about it all negative. Basically said he is to old and won't help against detroit. He is an idiot we needed a pure backup point how can he say it won't help. He just hates the celtics has had nothng good tosay about them and i hope he eats his words and ray,paul kg and even scalabrine will hopefully have something old charlie wishes he had a championship ring.

I think I sorta agree with Charles Barkley though. I know that everyone around here is jumping for joy about Cassell signing, but I really don't think he will make such a significant difference. If we are a championship team, we were before Cassell.

Can Cassell really keep guys like Billups from going off? I definitely have my doubts about that and it looks like Billups and the Pistons are the team we have to get through to get to the finals... Well, unless 'Bron can take care of them for us in the 2nd round. :pray:
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Post#17 » by sully00 » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:21 pm

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The difference between what the Celtics did and what the Pistons did is the Celtics addressed their two biggest needs. The Pistons didn't. I actually think Ratliff is a good pick up for them if he can stay healthy, but Juan Dixon probably won't even get off the bench. Also, as much as I like the Ratliff signing for them, I won't mind if he's taking away minutes from Maxiell, because he's burned us so far this year.


But we filled them with one guy who hasn't played a min this season and another guy who is older than rocks.

Juan Dixon is a proven bench scorer who gives then an option to playing their rookie in the playoffs, and Ratliff relieves them of playing a guy 6'5" at the center spot. The problem Boston has is that was really DET only weakness.

Outside of Billups we actually match up well with DET but they are a very put together operation and they have done it before.
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Post#18 » by reggielewis » Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:32 pm

when did billups become lebron james? yes billups is a tough match up because of his size and strength but he is not lebron james. what i mean by that is that lebron can single handley take out a team but billups can not. so he has big scoring nights against us, if that is our only issue than i can live with that. essentially that means that we slow down rip, sheed and prince and let chauncey bury us. i dont think its as much of an issue as people are making it seem. sir charles is just irritating because he contradicts himself. all season long he has been saying the c's need a a back up pg to help us, we finally get one and charles has nothing but salt to throw. had sam joined the cavs i guarantee you he would have said that it was a great pickup by ferry. i mean hello he was creaming over the wally/dwest/wallace etc trade, yet when wally and west were c's they were crap.... he is just irritating. i have no problem with constructive critcism but he is just hateful. he needs to be consistent
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Post#19 » by tombattor » Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:56 pm

reggielewis wrote:when did billups become lebron james? yes billups is a tough match up because of his size and strength but he is not lebron james. what i mean by that is that lebron can single handley take out a team but billups can not. so he has big scoring nights against us, if that is our only issue than i can live with that. essentially that means that we slow down rip, sheed and prince and let chauncey bury us. i dont think its as much of an issue as people are making it seem. sir charles is just irritating because he contradicts himself. all season long he has been saying the c's need a a back up pg to help us, we finally get one and charles has nothing but salt to throw. had sam joined the cavs i guarantee you he would have said that it was a great pickup by ferry. i mean hello he was creaming over the wally/dwest/wallace etc trade, yet when wally and west were c's they were crap.... he is just irritating. i have no problem with constructive critcism but he is just hateful. he needs to be consistent

So? What's your point? No one said Billups is Lebron.

So do you think Cassell is such a huge difference maker for the Celtics? Barkley said no and some of us agreed. The reason Billups is mentioned is because he's the best PG in the East and one of the main reasons we are getting Cassell is to help Rondo deal with Billups. And if you remember, it was Chauncey that took over the game in the 4th quarter to give the Pistons the win in our first match-up.
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Post#20 » by sully00 » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:24 pm

when did billups become lebron james?


About the same time that Sam Cassell morphed into a 30 year old Dennis Johnson.

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