Cleveland or Orlando?

DowJones · Post #1 » by **DowJones** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:22 pm

Who would you rather face in the 2nd round of the NBA Playoffs?

celticfan42487 · Post #2 » by **celticfan42487** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:51 pm

Orlando and it's not close.

To put it briefly when responding to given up another 20 point lead to us the ORL fan said, we give up 20 point leads to everyone so don't think you're special

D-12 isn't the force Lebron is offensively and has been slowed down by Perk before. I'm pretty certain PJ Brown can make his life difficult.

No one is going to slow down LeBron.

Then you have the supporting cast, they're decent but Hedo is a slow mover that Pierce/Tony Allen can stay with footspeed wise defensively. And Rashard has been reduced to a shooter. I'll take my chances with Shard posting up Ray Allen or Posey.

I also believe we have the 3 pointers to hang with ORL's barrage when/if it comes during the series

Then you have the rest out of the Magic's 3. There depth is horrible. We have better big men assistance, better PG rotation with Cassel. It's just yuck all around.

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #3 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:52 pm

I feel like this has been discussed many times...

For no other reason than we want Detroit/Cleveland to beat up on each other in the second round, we want Orlando. They would still give us a tough time though.

GuyClinch · Post #4 » by **GuyClinch** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:28 pm

Orlando. Lebron can just live at the foul line if the game gets close - it's hard to defeat guys like that. Everyone has love fests for bigs but those wings that get cheap fouls are a nightmare as well. Look at Kobe with his 27 FTs. How do you beat that?

Pete

Prophet_C · Post #5 » by **Prophet_C** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:53 am

Orlando.

TheMartian · Post #6 » by **TheMartian** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 3:09 am

It's basically the same thread here:

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=768152

:wink:

Jimmy103 · Post #7 » by **Jimmy103** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 3:28 am

Just hope Detroit bashes LeBron throughout the series and he limps into the Eastern Conference Finals vs. the C's.

Truthiracy · Post #8 » by **Truthiracy** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 5:07 am

Not sure why Cleveland gets so overrated, the Pistons just aren't that good and that's why they lost to them in the ECF. We'll destroy Orlando and Cleveland, so it doesn't matter to me who we will face.

tombattor · Post #9 » by **tombattor** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 7:44 pm

Orlando. No question.

It's all because of Lebron. As a team, Orlando is much better. But they don't have a guy that can just take over a series.

IMO, if we play the Magic, the series is most likely going 6 or 7 games. OTOH, Cavs series can be a 5 game win for us or if they stay in the series and the later games are close, Lebron can just carry them home too.

Gant · Post #10 » by **Gant** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 8:24 pm

As I said before, Cleveland diminished themselves in their match ups against Boston because of their recent trade. Gooden could go outside defensively against KG and take him outside on the other end. Ben Wallace, though sincere and well-intentioned, is fairly useless against Garnett.

Orlando has Dwight "I'm a Very Very Scary Person" Howard who no one matches up with, and Turkoglu really hurts Boston too.

So the answer is: I'd rather face Cleveland.

BUT... it really doesn't matter because if the Celtics can't beat either Cleveland or Orlando, they have no chance at all against Detroit and whoever survives the West.

The playoffs definitely get incrementally harder with each round this season- at least until the conference finals. Detroit is as good as any western team, so get by them and Boston has a good shot at the title.

daveisceltics · Post #11 » by **daveisceltics** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 8:27 pm

I would rather face Dwayne Jones, D-West, Wally, and the Cavs..

vct33 · Post #12 » by **vct33** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:57 pm

You can't be happy about facing the best player on the planet no matter who the other four guys are. I'd choose Orlando.

sam_I_am · Post #13 » by **sam_I_am** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:30 pm

As good as Lebron is.... I think Orlando is the more dangerous team. However, Cleveland would be the worse team to play simply because it is hard to win when it is 8 against 5 as Detroit learned in games 6 and 7 last year.

Stern and officials will do everything possible to slant things so they get a Kobe versus Lebron finals.

tombattor · Post #14 » by **tombattor** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:59 pm

sam_I_am wrote:As good as Lebron is.... I think Orlando is the more dangerous team. However, Cleveland would be the worse team to play simply because it is hard to win when it is 8 against 5 as Detroit learned in games 6 and 7 last year.

Stern and officials will do everything possible to slant things so they get a Kobe versus Lebron finals.

God... Not this BS again. Give it up.

Yes, Stern made Bill Russell old, hurt Larry Bird's back, killed Red, Bias and Lewis and forced Duncan to Spurs and Oden and Durant to Portland and Seattle.

It's obvious that Stern's trying to make San Antonio the NY of south and Portland and Seattle the next LA. :roll:

Post #15 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 7:32 pm

The Cavs outplayed the Pistons in all 6 games last year (I have no idea where you get a 7th game from). They didn't close out the first 2, but really handled Detroit fairly well last year. If you actually watched those games you'd realize that LeBron was getting fouled quite liberally with no call. Just look at the 29-30 highlights and he was getting fouled on just about every foul as he was in game 2 on the gamewinner. None of these fouls were called. So I have no idea where people get the idea that the Cavs get the benefit of tons of referee help.

vct33 · Post #16 » by **vct33** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 9:19 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote: So I have no idea where people get the idea that the Cavs get the benefit of tons of referee help.

I agree. The Cavs could have won Game 1 when LeBron was fouled in the lane at the end and got no call. That no call may have even influenced his decision to give the ball up at the end of game 2.