That sleazeball Stern's at it again...

[Big Baby]

He's been talking up the Knicks a lot lately, about how they can quickly turn things around, etc, etc. That got me thinking. What are the odds of the Knicks ending up with the #1 pick in the draft this year?

[Truthiracy]

Just like the rigged Ewing draft...

with the Number 1 pick in the 2008 NBA draft, the New York Knicks select...Michael Beasley

*8 months later*

"Michael Beasley has been arrested at a local New York club for assault with a deadly weapon"

[Bleeding Green]

The odds? 8.8% as of today. Highest chance of getting the 6th pick at the moment. But if by some stroke of luck they do get the #1 pick don't be that moron who thinks there is some conspiracy.

[tlee324]

This conversation seems to always occur every year... the Knicks haven't had a number one overall since 1985. If they get it this year, it's not because of any hoax, in my opinion. I mean, every year people say Stern is trying to hook up the Knicks, but wasn't Patrick Ewing their ONLY number one overall pick? Ever?

[Bleeding Green]

And doesn't some outside organization oversee the lottery anyway to make sure it's all on the up and up? Like major insurance firms? Why would they risk their reputation to help some meaningless organization like the NBA?

[Celtic Esquire]

Beasley is overrated anyway. I have no worries if he does go to the Knicks because he'll be a huge bust.

He's the second coming of Marvin Williams.

[The Corey's]

NBA Draft has him going to the Sonics right now assuming that draft order holds true.

If he went there, with Durant, I wonder, enough shots for the both of them?

I dont know much about this Beasley kid but on ESPN they compared his stats to Durants in college and they hold even or better in every category, so maybe he doesnt have the flash Durant has but he isnt getting the same hype, maybe cause around here were not focused on the draft anymore or maybe cause people can see the underlined truth that he wont be a great but good pro, like I said I dont know just some small observations.

But I still think it be interesting if the Sonics get him, that would put two of the top 3 prospects on there team from the past two drafts, the other being Oden.

[canman1971]

Doesn't matter, there is no difference maker in the draft this year off the top. Of course, there will be some great players over time, but that remains to be seen who. It will be Walsh who gets the Knicks back to respectability. He has only one way to go since that worm Thomas drove the team into the ground.

[bruno sundov]

[quote="The Corey's"]NBA Draft has him going to the Sonics right now assuming that draft order holds true.
I dont know much about this Beasley kid but on ESPN they compared his stats to Durants in college and they hold even or better in every category, so maybe he doesnt have the flash Durant has but he isnt getting the same hype, maybe cause around here were not focused on the draft anymore or maybe cause people can see the underlined truth that he wont be a great but good pro, like I said I dont know just some small observations.


Don't forget how great Durant was last year. Always on national TV. His team was ranked #1 for some time. He was unstoppable and no one had seen game like his in years. Think of the last person with similar game in college to Durants. I can' think of one in the past 20 years. So the hype was worth it. Beasley can play inside and outside. He is going to be nasty. He comes into the league so far ahead of many players because he can shoot.

[MyInsatiableOne]

I don't know if they'll get the #1 pick but Stern will find some way to help them out one way or another, with cap relief or something. Remember, only the C's never get "help" from the league!

Not that I'd want any, anyway!

[Athanacropolis]

The hell with David Stern. Who cares? It's not necessarily all about the pick, it's about team management. While Donnie Walsh is better than Isaiah (or however he spells that) as a decision maker, he hasn't exactly hit tons of home runs in his career. As we have been fortunate to see, even if you don't have #1 picks, if you have balls and creativity, and an eye for how different talents will mesh, you can resurrect your team (yeah, I'm talking about Ainge) without the benefit of a supposed "fix." Things might be so bad, though, that Walsh might be forced to make a ballsy move that works out.

That said, I voted "Yes" in the poll, because after Portland and Seattle got the #1 and #2 picks respectively last year with their minuscule chances, it seems that it's all pure, dumb luck.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Good logic...I had voted yes this morning simply because I don't totally trust Stern and the powers-that-be in the league

[Athanacropolis]

Good logic...I had voted yes this morning simply because I don't totally trust Stern and the powers-that-be in the league

Yeah, but BadMuthaCeltic made a good point: 1985 was the Knicks' last number one pick. That's a long time, and if there was a "fix," it'd have happened already. And Stern is a business man. Is it good business for the NBA to have the Celtics, and even the Sixers, be bad-to-mediocre, for so long? Why would he want to resurrect the Spurs or the Sonics, to name two examples? Makes no sense.

Also, I still can't buy the draft lottery conspiracy theories: Just because you have a 25% chance of getting the #1 pick, you can't ignore the 75% chance that you don't get it. Teams are better off drafting players that fit with their current team, trading picks/players for ones that fit their team, and being willing to shell out the bucks for said players. Note, these are all things that Isaiah does not do.

[UGA Hayes]

I'm pretty confident Rose is going to be the number 1 pick and would be the Knicks pick.

[sully00]

Yeah but the Knicks had the number 2 pick only 2 years ago, they had just traded it to the Bulls.

About the last thing the Knicks and the NBA needs is the number one pick. Much like we have seen in Boston, a top 2 pick will likely force Walsh to go with a shed contracts and develop mode, while poplular on this board can't happen at Madison Square Garden.

The Knicks can't do what the Sonics did and it took POR 4 years to get into the position they are in.

That said Donny Walsh has hit plenty of Home Runs and now he has a ton of cash to grease the skids. Unload that turd Curry for anything and trade their lottery pick for a durable veteran All Star not named Ron Artest. While Carmelo in NY sounds like a recipe for disaster it might be the move.

Who am I kidding?

[Athanacropolis]

Yeah, they are in a tough position. I mean, who do you build around? I'd actually keep Crawford, if you can believe it, along with Lee and Robinson. Curry and Randolph, though...blah.

Jack Welch used to fire the underperforming 10% of his company every year. Maybe Walsh could institute such a policy to change the culture there?

It's a Gordian knot. Who knows?

[Bleedin' blue]

We are hoping to get the number 1, but I wouldn't the Celtics have won last year if he really wanted the NBA to have a boost?

Now even he couldn't predict Mcfail's move to his old friend Ainge.

[VinnyTheMick]

Remember, only the C's never get "help" from the league!

Not that I'd want any, anyway!

The Raptors would like a word with you.

[VinnyTheMick]

Yeah but the Knicks had the number 2 pick only 2 years ago, they had just traded it to the Bulls.

So the conspiracy was in place before the Eddy Curry trade?

About the last thing the Knicks and the NBA needs is the number one pick. Much like we have seen in Boston, a top 2 pick will likely force Walsh to go with a shed contracts and develop mode, while poplular on this board can't happen at Madison Square Garden.

The Knicks can't do what the Sonics did and it took POR 4 years to get into the position they are in.

Not true at all. After Isiah's disastrous tenure here, we realize we need draft picks & cap relief. All Walsh has said was "have significant cap space for 2010" & I have no idea why he would go against that plan.

That said Donny Walsh has hit plenty of Home Runs and now he has a ton of cash to grease the skids. Unload that turd Curry for anything and trade their lottery pick for a durable veteran All Star not named Ron Artest. While Carmelo in NY sounds like a recipe for disaster it might be the move.

That is not in the plans whatsoever.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Knowing the Knicks, even if they got the #1 pick, as long as Isiah is around, they'd screw it up.

But now that it looks like Zeke is done there, they should be alright...