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Very interesting. I didn't expect this. Good for him though. Maybe this is a sign saying that the experts are not overlooking the celtics...

Rondo for MIP!!!

Doc for COTY!!!

BIG BABY for ROTY!!! well maybe not

I think the right guy won it, though.

BadMuthaCeltic wrote:I think the right guy won it, though.

oh easily

This just shows people aren't really paying attention. After the opening spurt, Posey was a below avg player. Powe deserves it more than Posey.

UGA Hayes wrote:This just shows people aren't really paying attention. After the opening spurt, Posey was a below avg player. Powe deserves it more than Posey.

Below average player? What are you talking about?

I think people forget that Posey started in the NBA for his first five years -- and for the bulk of that Miami Heat championship season. He's found a phenomenal role as a bench player though and, with his size and versatility, it really is where he belongs.

UGA Hayes wrote:This just shows people aren't really paying attention. After the opening spurt, Posey was a below avg player. Powe deserves it more than Posey.

While I agree on the premise, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Posey was a below average player. I think he may have been a sub-optimum player to choose to pair with Garnett with Posey playing PF, though.

Before I list the results, I thought I would throw out my belief in the reasoning for the excessive minutes of Posey at PF. I think 1. Doc was adamant about getting Tony Allen back on track. To do so, there had to be available minutes on the wing. I am not arguing that he did wrongly in doing so, I am just stating what I believe one of the main reasons that Pierce saw virtually zero time at SG this season. 2. I think Doc was hesitant to step on Ray Allen's toes. If he was to rest Ray, playing a paired Posey and Pierce on the wings, it probably wouldn't have gone over too well. Not judging the reasoning, really, just stating what I believe to have happened that we arrived at the outcome we did.

Ok, Posey as a PF, in certain situations is probably a good idea. It all depends on the situations, though. Below, in particular, I wanted to highlight the Garnett/Posey pairing. Posey was absolutely fantastic playing SF in line-ups with Garnett. Posey as a PF, though, not so good.

Garnett with Posey at PF:

MP: 357.58
ORtg: 110.40
DRtg: 105.39
Exp Win%: .657

Garnett with Posey at SF:

MP: 262.12
ORtg: 111.39
DRtg: 94.46
Exp Win%: .910

Garnett with Posey total:

MP: 619.70
ORtg: 110.80
DRtg: 100.85
Exp Win%: .789

I wouldn't say Posey was a below average player at all. Seems to me like he took a number of key charges, hit many big threes, and provided much needed depth and versatility. What exactly were you expecting Posey to do for this team?

The hawks are one team that I like Posey at PF against. Last game, Doc did for the first time I can remember, play Pierce at SG and Posey at SF. Against bigger teams, this would be a good idea, but against the hawks it didn't seem to work too well. When that lineup was in the game the Hawks went on a run.

See http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gamef ... ame=ATLBOS

The Rondo, Pierce, Posey, Powe, Garnett lineup was a -4.

For the next major lineup Doc subbed Ray in for Pierce...again with Posey at SF

The Cassell, Ray, Posey, Powe, Brown lineup was a -4, in just about 3 minutes.

By this time Atlanta had almost tied the game, and Doc inserted Tony and Garnett for PJ and Powe.
This lineup of Cassell, Ray, Tony, Posey, and Garnett was a +7.

I thought Tony gave us favorable matchups vs. the Hawks but he only got 9 minutes of playing time, half his season average, due mainly to Doc playing Posey at SF. Eddie House was also hit pretty hard with this change and only got 5 minutes of PT. For the game, tony was a +8, Eddie was a +4, and Posey was a +5 in 28.4 minutes. Rondo only played 28 minutes himself and Perk played 20. So outside of the big 3, Posey played the most minutes.

This game was a rout, so it'll be interesting to see if Doc plays Tony and Eddie at all once the matchups get more difficult. He's definitely trying to shorten the rotation, and might miss Tony and Eddie if he does.

Ginobili definitely deserved it, but I thought Posey would finish higher than 8th...

Ginoblli deserved it but LL is the MAN.

Posey is the ultimate role player imo. just a complete joy to watch for my non-stat driven eyes. i hope he doesnt opt out, id love for him to be bangin in them 3s and takin charges for the next 5 years in green