Poll: Is Doc Rivers a good playoff coach?

Tricky Ricky · Post #1 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:15 pm

I vote NO

cisco · Post #2 » by **cisco** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:10 pm

That's an easy answer. NO

How could he be a good playoff coach when he never got out of the first round in I believe 5 chances and is struggling to get the best team in the league out of the first round against an 8 seed?

Kids Are Alright · Post #3 » by **Kids Are Alright** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:21 pm

not playing the rotations that got us here

Celts17Pride · Post #4 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:27 pm

This is not on Doc Rivers. The Big 3 and the other players are being out played, out hustled, out composed. The Atlanta Hawks are playing with fire and the Celtics are playing like they are owed something.

The big knock on the Big 3 is they are great players on losing teams but they are not winners. Right now they are doing nothing to dispell that knock.

KG, Pierce & Allen have to step up and take control of this series. That is what great winning players do.

I am a diehard Celtics fan but I'm just telling it like it is.

Tricky Ricky · Post #5 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:08 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:This is not on Doc Rivers. The Big 3 and the other players are being out played, out hustled, out composed. The Atlanta Hawks are playing with fire and the Celtics are playing like they are owed something.

The big knock on the Big 3 is they are great players on losing teams but they are not winners. Right now they are doing nothing to dispell that knock.

KG, Pierce & Allen have to step up and take control of this series. That is what great winning players do.

I am a diehard Celtics fan but I'm just telling it like it is.

I agree the big 3 needs to step it up but I still cant let Doc off the hook

stretch · Post #6 » by **stretch** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:10 pm

right, as if we'd have swept the Hawks by now if any of you were coaching

Like Danny Ainge said, everyone likes to think they can coach (especially Boston fans). Like they see and understand anything. none of us understands the things Doc and his staff see, like missed defensive rotations.
The last two losses are totally on the players. you could see it in almost everybody. The defensive effort. Rondo and Cassell just played differently in Atlanta.

Celts17Pride · Post #7 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:17 pm

It's all about the players. Either KG, PP & RA are going to get it done or they are not. Larry Bird wouldn't be blaming the coach, he would be blaming himself. Your either a winning player or your not. You either have what it takes or you don't. This is an opportunity for KG, PP & RA to prove doubters wrong. They either step up and get it done or they don't.

This is not about the coach.

cisco · Post #8 » by **cisco** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:36 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:It's all about the players. Either KG, PP & RA are going to get it done or they are not. Larry Bird wouldn't be blaming the coach, he would be blaming himself. Your either a winning player or your not. You either have what it takes or you don't. This is an opportunity for KG, PP & RA to prove doubters wrong. They either step up and get it done or they don't.

This is not about the coach.

KG, PP and Ray aren't blaming the coach either. We are.

Gomes3PC · Post #9 » by **Gomes3PC** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:40 pm

Whwther Doc sucks or not we shouldve been up 3-1 right now. Coaching doesnt stop guys from hemorraghing points at the FT line.

But yes, Doc is a bad coach. IMO there's only one good coach in the East playoffs and that's Stan Van Gundy.

SeizeCoup · Post #10 » by **SeizeCoup** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:35 pm

I don't think Doc is a good playoff coach.

IMO, he's being out-coached in this series. Prime example is failure to recognize mismatches. Pierce was switched onto Johnson only after complete repeated ownage of Ray. By the time the switch was made the game was over. TA could have probably helped too.

I also don't think he attacks mismatches in our favor enough.

I understand why he is playing Cassell heavy minutes, House can't break the press, but the trade-off is that on the rotation of the ball on offense Sam is getting the ball in spots where House is usually draining a three. Sam can make that shot, but not reliably. It's like Doc is throwing a monkey wrench in the engine.

Anyways, the players are stinking it up, so it's not like they are free of blame. But imo it's up to the coach to direct the chaos when things are not going well. I don't feel like Doc can make important quick (on the fly) tactical decisions, and imo this will be illustrated even more so in the upcoming rounds.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #11 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:04 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Whwther Doc sucks or not we shouldve been up 3-1 right now. Coaching doesnt stop guys from hemorraghing points at the FT line.

But yes, Doc is a bad coach. IMO there's only one good coach in the East playoffs and that's Stan Van Gundy.

Yes, I agree with the above statement.

tombattor · Post #12 » by **tombattor** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:09 pm

If Doc has any balls or any brain, he would not play Cassell in game 4. No backup PG playing under 10 minutes (and only because he was so atrocious in the first half) should be allowed to make such a negative impact.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #13 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:16 pm

^Agreed. House or TA should be the first ones off the bench in front of Sam for the rest of the series.