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Bill Simmons chat
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:48 pm
by Joebiscuit
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=20425
Kind of long but he talks about last nights games. Apparently he still hates Doc rivers as the Celtics coach.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:53 pm
by greenbeans
and also, that cleared up the whole "did he pick the lakers to avoid a jinx" 500-page thread from earlier this week. well, he DID pick the fakers, but thats because he believes theyll win. talk about celtic pride
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:52 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
Yeah, what a true "diehard" C's fan, huh?
*EVEN* if you think the other team is better, you root for yours to win. The faith, some might call it blind faith, in your team is what makes you a true fan. Did I think the Pats could win in 2001 vs. the Rams in the Super Bowl. Yes, because even though all the stats said NO, my fandom made me think YES.
Simmons' act is getting kind of old, anyway...I used to love his columns but the last year or so all the hipster pop-culture references and other stupid **** he says isn't even funny anymore, when I can even understand it
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:51 pm
by Gomes3PC
He can root for his team to win but still think they'll lose. Most Giants fans rooted with all their heart but very few thought that they had a chance to win. I see no problem with this. The Nuggets were just dissected by LA and we are battling Atlanta. Plus, Kobe is a proven clutch performer, while we have nobody near that. Finally, Phil vs. Doc? Cmon. With even talent on both sides, it comes down to who can hit big shots (Kobe) and who can make adjustments (Phil). We can beat them if we get there because we'd have home court and we play great D, but I can absolutely see why the Lakers are his choice, C's fan or not.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:52 pm
by greenbeans
Gomes3PC wrote:He can root for his team to win but still think they'll lose. Most Giants fans rooted with all their heart but very few thought that they had a chance to win. I see no problem with this. The Nuggets were just dissected by LA and we are battling Atlanta. Plus, Kobe is a proven clutch performer, while we have nobody near that. Finally, Phil vs. Doc? Cmon. With even talent on both sides, it comes down to who can hit big shots (Kobe) and who can make adjustments (Phil). We can beat them if we get there because we'd have home court and we play great D, but I can absolutely see why the Lakers are his choice, C's fan or not.
what has phil OR kobe done without a top-6 player of all time?? nothing. and id take Ray/Paul over Kobe.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:19 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
I can agree Kobe is downright scary at times, but Phil is so overrated it isn't even funny. What has that guy won when he DIDN'T have Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Shaq, Kobe, etc...NOTHING.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:39 pm
by greenbeans
i dont know who i hate more sometimes. Phil or Riley. their both leeches in my book
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:10 pm
by Ralphie96
MyInsatiableOne wrote:Yeah, what a true "diehard" C's fan, huh?
*EVEN* if you think the other team is better,
you root for yours to win. The faith, some might call it blind faith, in your team is what makes you a true fan. Did I think the Pats could win in 2001 vs. the Rams in the Super Bowl. Yes, because even though all the stats said NO, my fandom made me think YES.
Simmons' act is getting kind of old, anyway...I used to love his columns but the last year or so all the hipster pop-culture references and other stupid **** he says isn't even funny anymore, when I can even understand it
he is a sports writer.. he answered a question honestly...thats what he is supposed to do. espn doesnt want a sports writer who talks about how his favorite team is great (whether they are or arent)...he is a very good and subjective writer..and when he acts like a homer he admits it..
also...who said he ISNT rooting for the celtics to win??
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:13 pm
by greenbeans
Ralphie96 wrote:espn doesnt want a sports writer who talks about how his favorite team is great
really? because thats not the vibe ive gotten reading his columns the past few years
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:47 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
really? because thats not the vibe ive gotten reading his columns the past few years
No $hit, that's all he does!
And who said he isn't rooting for the C's? HE DID!
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:47 pm
by Ralphie96
greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
really? because thats not the vibe ive gotten reading his columns the past few years
then maybe you arent reading all his stuff...
he writes plenty of articles about more than the Celts.. Pats.. etc..
and even though he does write a good amount on his sports teams.. he doenst sit there and talk about how great they are...
i believe part of what makes him such an interesting writer is his love for his sports teams.. people want to hear what he has to say about them.. but my point was that even though he may talk about his teams a lot.. he doesnt sit there and talk about how great they are...
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:51 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
[quote="Ralphie96"][/quote]
Really? Cos I can count at least 5 articles over the last few months from Simmons extolling how great the C's and Pats are.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:52 pm
by Ralphie96
MyInsatiableOne wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
No $hit, that's all he does!
And who said he isn't rooting for the C's? HE DID!
When did he say he wasnt rooting for the C's??
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:53 pm
by Gomes3PC
You can root for a team without thinking they'll win. See Royals or Raiders fans.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:04 pm
by LarryBrdismyDad
greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
what has phil OR kobe done without a top-6 player of all time?? nothing. and id take Ray/Paul over Kobe.
You would take Ray Allen or Paul Pierce over Kobe Bryant? Get your head out of your Celtics ass. That is being such a homer to say something like that. Kobe is an MVP candidate and a legit top 3 player in the NBA if not the best player. In my opinion, the three best players in the NBA are Kobe, Lebron, and Duncan. Nobody can dominate games like they can.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:04 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
Ralphie96 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
When did he say he wasnt rooting for the C's??
Well, maybe I was a bit brash...he said the Lakers will win. Not necessarily rooting FOR them, but certainly not rooting for the C's.
I don't want to get into this ****, we already had a long and ridiculous thread on it last week
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:11 pm
by Worm Guts
MyInsatiableOne wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Well, maybe I was a bit brash...he said the Lakers will win. Not necessarily rooting FOR them, but certainly not rooting for the C's.
Of course he's rooting for the Celtics. Picking a team has nothing to do with who you're rooting for.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:18 pm
by greenbeans
LarryBrdismyDad wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You would take Ray Allen or Paul Pierce over Kobe Bryant? Get your head out of your Celtics ass. That is being such a homer to say something like that. Kobe is an MVP candidate and a legit top 3 player in the NBA if not the best player. In my opinion, the three best players in the NBA are Kobe, Lebron, and Duncan. Nobody can dominate games like they can.
no, thats not what i said. id take ray and paul over kobe. 2 heads are better than one.
Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 5:29 am
by Big Baby
Gomes3PC wrote:You can root for a team without thinking they'll win. See Royals or Raiders fans.
Did you just compare those franchises to the Celtics? The Royals? Really?
Posted: Thu May 1, 2008 12:48 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
Big Baby wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Did you just compare those franchises to the Celtics? The Royals? Really?
I know, seriously!
And you mean to tell me every Cubs fan, for instance, goes to the games rooting/expecting them to lose? Some, sure, but fandom is blind, which is one of the things that can be fun about it