House needs to Play on the Road, Cassell needs to sit

[return2glory]

Eddie House needs to play on the road, and Cassell needs to be benched during road games. Here is my reasoning:

1.House has played well all season. He is a proven scorer and moves the ball around a lot better than Casell.
2.Cassell has been awful in 4 playoff road games. Cassell is shooting 3-21 from the field. That is an awful 14% from the field during the road games. He is averaging 1.8 points a game and 1.8 assists per game in 14 minutes.
3. We are 0-4 on the road, so a change couldn't hurt.

I would still play Sam Cassell at home because he has played much better. Something has to be done and Doc needs to make a change fast. Cassell isn't the only reason we have been bad on the road, the he hasn't been part of the solution either.

[tombattor]

I agree, but we have a moron for a coach, who's scared of Cassell.

[greenbeans]

i loved House all season. he hit more "daggers" than anybody else on the team this year. hes a great frontrunner, which is what we need when we get that 5 point lead, hell make it 10-15

[MyInsatiableOne]

I agree, but we have a moron for a coach, who's scared of Cassell.

I don't know *why* he's so afraid of Sam...it's weird!! If he's afraid of ticking Sam off or something, they shouldn't have gotten him in the first place. Very odd

[Al n' Perk No Layups!]

2.Cassell has been awful in 4 playoff road games. Cassell is shooting 3-21 from the field. That is an awful 14% from the field during the road games. He is averaging 1.8 points a game and 1.8 assists per game in 14 minutes.

House is shooting 8.3% in the playoffs (1-12). Scoring three total points.

[tombattor]

I don't think they could have forseen how big of a personality Cassell is. And it's apparent that Doc has no control over this team. Can you imagine Phil Jackson or Popovich playing Sam Cassell, even though he's playing such a selfish ball? Never. If need be, just deactivate him.

[tombattor]

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House is shooting 8.3% in the playoffs (1-12). Scoring three total points.

But you gotta see what kind of minutes he's getting. The only time he gets in the game is when we're down by 20 or in one of those 4 second stints. No one can get into rhythm, just playing those minutes.

Besides, those 12 shots came from within the offense. I don't mind Cassell missing shots, if they come from the offense and was given an open shot. You can't make every shot. However, this MOFO is taking 1-on-5 pull-ups from 20 feet out.

[BrokenLeftyJumper]

Just a quick hypothetical question:

Say Eddie House had stayed in the rotation in the playoffs. He was getting the majority of the backup minutes and Sam was rocking the pine. Say Eddie House had two straight bad games or something. How quick would you guys be to make threads calling out Doc for not playing Cassell? It would be pretty instantaneous right? I imagine the 'Doc is idiot, play Cassell' thread would have been started multiple times, I mean it wasn't that long ago that this board was full of the 'We need a better backup PG, We need Cassell' threads, based mainly on the fact that Eddie House struggled bringing the ball up in one quarter in one game against Detroit. Yet now Eddie House is the savior, Cassell is a bum, and Doc is an idiot any way you look at it....

Hypocrites.

[tombattor]

Just a quick hypothetical question:

Say Eddie House had stayed in the rotation in the playoffs. He was getting the majority of the backup minutes and Sam was rocking the pine. Say Eddie House had two straight bad games or something. How quick would you guys be to make threads calling out Doc for not playing Cassell? It would be pretty instantaneous right? I imagine the 'Doc is idiot, play Cassell' thread would have been started multiple times, I mean it wasn't that long ago that this board was full of the 'We need a better backup PG, We need Cassell' threads, based mainly on the fact that Eddie House struggled bringing the ball up in one quarter in one game against Detroit. Yet now Eddie House is the savior, Cassell is a bum, and Doc is an idiot any way you look at it....

Hypocrites.

Not everyone was on board with Cassell signing. I, for one, was 100% against it from the beginning and said it's an okay move, if Doc can handle him and he doesn't play more than 10 minutes a game. I also said in response to all those Sam and his big shot BS by saying that those shots must come from within the offense, not from ego. Why don't you go back and look? I'm sure it's not that hard to find.

If you can get off your high horse, you'll see that House was one of the guys brought us to this point. Cassell was collecting DNPs when we were winning. But for some reason, Doc went away from that and is afraid to take Cassell out, leaving him in for 10+ minute stretches. Not even KG plays that many minutes straight. And while he's in there, all Cassell does is shoots, shoots and shoots.

House may not be as good of a ball handler, but at least he passes and attempts to get the ball moving. Ball doesn't leave Sam's hands when he's in there and has killed all that unselfishness this team was built on.

[BillessuR6]

Cassell hate is unbelievable! Sure he has played terrible on the road but has also had some good games. I still think he is vital for this team winning a ring.

I would keep him as a backup PG but Doc should sit him if he doesn`t play well and put Eddie in. Sam and House are pretty similar in my opinion. You know after 2 minutes if they will have a good game or a bad one. If they make the first or second jumper they will be hitting them all night if they miss on the first two, they will keep on missing...

So, if Cassell comes in and does nothing he should be benched and Eddie should get a chance.

[tombattor]

Cassell hate is unbelievable! Sure he has played terrible on the road but has also had some good games. I still think he is vital for this team winning a ring.

I would keep him as a backup PG but Doc should sit him if he doesn`t play well and put Eddie in. Sam and House are pretty similar in my opinion. You know after 2 minutes if they will have a good game or a bad one. If they make the first or second jumper they will be hitting them all night if they miss on the first two, they will keep on missing...

So, if Cassell comes in and does nothing he should be benched and Eddie should get a chance.

I don't care if Cassell does nothing. I just want him to not be negative to the team.

And the difference between House and Cassell is that Cassell's ego makes him think he's some sort of a super star and should be getting 20 shots a game.

On a bad team, Cassell probably is more valuable because he can do more than House, but on this team, he's the worst thing that's happened.

[MyInsatiableOne]

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I don't care if Cassell does nothing. I just want him to not be negative to the team.

And the difference between House and Cassell is that Cassell's ego makes him think he's some sort of a super star and should be getting 20 shots a game.

On a bad team, Cassell probably is more valuable because he can do more than House, but on this team, he's the worst thing that's happened.

Very well said, man. As you know I agree with you on the whole Cassell thing.

[return2glory]

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But you gotta see what kind of minutes he's getting. The only time he gets in the game is when we're down by 20 or in one of those 4 second stints. No one can get into rhythm, just playing those minutes.

Besides, those 12 shots came from within the offense. I don't mind Cassell missing shots, if they come from the offense and was given an open shot. You can't make every shot. However, this MOFO is taking 1-on-5 pull-ups from 20 feet out.

Exactly. Not only that but House hasn't gptten any consistant minutes. He hardly has gotten any minutes.

[return2glory]

Cassell hate is unbelievable! Sure he has played terrible on the road but has also had some good games. I still think he is vital for this team winning a ring.

I would keep him as a backup PG but Doc should sit him if he doesn`t play well and put Eddie in. Sam and House are pretty similar in my opinion. You know after 2 minutes if they will have a good game or a bad one. If they make the first or second jumper they will be hitting them all night if they miss on the first two, they will keep on missing...

So, if Cassell comes in and does nothing he should be benched and Eddie should get a chance.

I agree. That is why I said that Cassell should still play his regular minutes at home. As bad as Cassell has been on the road, he has been great at home. He along with KG was the main reason why we won game 1. Cassell was huge in that game.

[BillessuR6]

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I don't care if Cassell does nothing. I just want him to not be negative to the team.

And the difference between House and Cassell is that Cassell's ego makes him think he's some sort of a super star and should be getting 20 shots a game.

On a bad team, Cassell probably is more valuable because he can do more than House, but on this team, he's the worst thing that's happened.

You will change your mind when Cassell helps this team win a ring in a few weeks!

[O.Z.123]

just an observation from an onlooker but, from what i saw from y'all earlier this (regular) season, ya'll were more effective with eddie house in the half court (and in ball games n general) simply because he helped spread the floor with ray allen while not being a ball stopper like BOTH cassell and rondo are.

neither cassell nor rondo appear as competent as i figured they'd be at simple passing principles like the drive and dish or the pick and roll/ pick and pop or the 2 on 1 fast break execution. rondo will just try and take the ball all the way to the hoop foolishly (i.e. no matter the circumstance) and get owned by the defender, whereas cassell will just jack up a contested shot 1st chance he gets.

now rondo's halfcourt style may be more forgivable because he can't really shoot, but his play is just as costly on the fast break* as cassell's is in the halfcourt.

--*y'all actually had a chance to cut the lead to 10 in the 3rd qtr with rondo and kg runnin the break and kg got deep post position on lebron (it was a 2 on 2 fast break essentially) but rondo opted to not give kg the ball for the easy bucket, they ended up not scoring on that possession, cleveland scored again to bump up the lead and even the announcers (JVG?) commented that the guards stay denying kg the ball far too often--

really, ray allen, kg and paul pierce seem more willing to play unselfishly and set up "the next man" to score than the current role/rotation players do. thats why i think a lineup of eddie house, ray allen, paul pierce, james posey/leon powe, and kg would work wonders. posey stays within the offense, eddie house's whole style is spreadin the offense or swinging it around to the next open guy around the perimeter (which compliments pierce's and kgs game), and powe just seems like a better player to me than perkins.

i know the whole knock on eddie house (and why bringing cassell was done) was due to his tough time bringing the ball up the court against pressure. but wouldn't a simple press break where the celtic players come help him get the ball (just thru passing) resolve that simple enough?

just my thoughts but we'll see how things go. if cassell and rondo are hittin their forced shots, then its not a big deal i guess but it still encourages the bad habits more tho.

[Celtic Esquire]

I agree, but we have a moron for a coach, who's scared of Cassell.

Agreed.

I like Sam, but when he's in the game, the offense grinds to a halt as Sam just dribbles and dribbles around looking for this own shot.

House was one of our key reserves during the season so why isn't he seeing any PT? It's not like the Cavs are going to trap him with Delonte.

[Colossus]

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Agreed.

I like Sam, but when he's in the game, the offense grinds to a halt as Sam just dribbles and dribbles around looking for this own shot.

House was one of our key reserves during the season so why isn't he seeing any PT? It's not like the Cavs are going to trap him with Delonte.

Cassell has proven over his career that he's money come playoff time. His playoff experience cannot be dismissed. Besides, I like what he brings to the table; he's one of our players that's not afraid to take a shot. Sometimes Pierce and Ray appear hesitant when they have no business being hesitant.

He has come through for us already these playoffs and I'm guessing some people might come around once he throws in a few more nice performances. When he's hot he's hot.. and when he's cold he's ice cold. But that's his game we should have known this. When he's on he shoots daggers.

[return2glory]

Another horrible performance and Cassell. 0-5 shooting and 0 defense. After tonight's game, Cassell is 3-26 shooting in road playoff games. He is now shooting 11.5% from the field.

I blame Doc's stupid ass for playing Sam we he has been struggling on the road. He should have gone to House off the bench going into the game. He least he should have done was go to House in the 2nd half when he saw Cassell was barbage again.

[Kids Are Alright]

I'll go one step further....PJ Brown couldn't get minutes last year. He's slow to rotate, doesn't get offensive boards, leaves players a few steps out wide open.

Current pine rider Big Baby won a Detroit, San Antonio and a Cleveland game for us by keeping big men out of the paint. No, he can't defend quick, agile centers, but that's not Z's forte.

Tony Allen often lifted us by a quick 6-8 points with his defense, penetration and dishes and Eddie was our best catch-shoot player this year.

We won big games without KG and RA and it was on the 2nd unit's back. This current 2nd unit won us one game at Atlanta. Doc talked all year long about team, picked up a couple of insurance guys and benched the players that built the record season.

So much for team chemistry.