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Good Sports Guy article

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:14 pm
by BoTown Celts
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080514

I know most of us have been thinking these things.

I def think Posey needs to start and the Cs need to exploit Wally Z as he is a defensive liability.

UBUNTU!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:34 pm
by leper-con
Yep, this one is right on the money. 17 will not be won with Glen "clueless" Rivers.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:35 pm
by Celts17Pride
Just another article to give him a chance at bashing Doc Rivers. Nothing new for Simmons.
:roll:

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:36 pm
by cloverleaf
Oh man, that's brilliant. Rings so much more true than all the bs quotes and analysis we'll be reading and listening to the next few days. Just when I thought Simmons had lost it, he shows he hasn't missed a thing.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:37 pm
by Celts17Pride
leper-con wrote:Yep, this one is right on the money. 17 will not be won with Glen "clueless" Rivers.


17 will not be won with the Big 3 Chokers (KG,Pierce, Allen).

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:41 pm
by celtics543
He must have read my mind for that article, because he voiced everything that I've been thinking.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:41 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
Kinda dumb article by SG. He spent all season verbally blowing KG and *NOW* he takes him to task? He is also an irrational Doc-hater and a frontrunning C's fan (at least this season)...he alternates between euphoria when things are going well and suicidal depression when they aren't.

Meh.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:42 pm
by Celts17Pride
Simmons is just preaching to the choir. Telling people what they want to hear.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:58 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
Celts17Pride wrote:Just another article to give him a chance at bashing Doc Rivers. Nothing new for Simmons.
:roll:


End of thread...spot on.

Simmons loves guys when things are hot and hates them when we hit rough patch. Simmons=frontrunning C's fan.

I don't care how long the guy has been a "fan", he's a frontrunner!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:05 pm
by deepyellow
If there's another sportswriter who has a better beat on the way this Cavs series is going, it would be my pleasure to read it. Why not link for all of us to enjoy?

Maybe if all those Simmons critics could cite examples that support their bias, or at least express their bias in an interesting way, they too could write about basketball on the internet... for a living.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:17 pm
by Tricky Ricky
leper-con wrote:Yep, this one is right on the money. 17 will not be won with Glen "clueless" Rivers.


Ive been saying this all season, Doc just isnt a good playoff coach

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:29 pm
by DJToLarry
I know playoff rosters are set for players, but are coaching rosters set as well??? Can we get someone else in to take us to 17?

I'm joking. Well kind of ;)

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:43 pm
by BillessuR6
Great article, he was right about everything. It is just too bad that this wasn`t written in a "serious tone", so it would actually be taken more seriously by the public.



Can someone explain to me why there are never any analytical, critical articles in the Boston media? At least what I can read online?

I see no indepth analysis of games, no one is breaking down the teams problems, deficiencies in detail. In Europe the articles after the last game in Cleveland would be completely different, way more critical and analytical. The coach would be on the hot seat, his weaknesses, decisions dissected, as well as individual players performances.

I really don`t understand that. Is it like this in other sports also?

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:59 pm
by leper-con
Celts17Pride wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



17 will not be won with the Big 3 Chokers (KG,Pierce, Allen).


how can you even say that, has Doc put these guys in a situation to succeed? Has he taken advatage of the missmatches. DOc MAIN problem is that he is not an instigator he reacts while he should be forceing the Cavs to adjust to us the more superior team.

two rounds and he has been outcoached by anything but the titans of the coaching ranks. Wait until he runs up against an actual coach. This team will get creamed.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:20 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
leper-con wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



how can you even say that, has Doc put these guys in a situation to succeed? Has he taken advatage of the missmatches. DOc MAIN problem is that he is not an instigator he reacts while he should be forceing the Cavs to adjust to us the more superior team.

two rounds and he has been outcoached by anything but the titans of the coaching ranks. Wait until he runs up against an actual coach. This team will get creamed.


Has Pierce played remotely well? Does he take it to the hoop? Is he taking too many bad, contested shots? Is Ray not hitting his shots?

See, you can use your approach to put it on the players...coaching is overrated...yes you need a good coach, but you need good players to execute, and Pierce in particular has been a flop.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:28 pm
by leper-con
MyInsatiableOne wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Has Pierce played remotely well? Does he take it to the hoop? Is he taking too many bad, contested shots? Is Ray not hitting his shots?

See, you can use your approach to put it on the players...coaching is overrated...yes you need a good coach, but you need good players to execute, and Pierce in particular has been a flop.



Ask yourself this.

You don't think Phil Jackson or POP would get these guys better shots, isolate the Cavs weakest link and exploit it? God we have D west on PP and we don't post him up, he tries to tke hjim off the dribble. The first thing PP should do is go down to he post and abuse DWEST.

Your telling me that 3-20plus carreer scorers are all of a sudden unable to score. It is this god awful offese we are running. We need to push the pace and take advatage of Rondo in th eopen court and KG's athleticism as well as get PP and Ray easy buckets. THIS is coaching 101 something Doc failed.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:32 pm
by cloverleaf
As i said (somewhere) before the playoffs began, DJToLarry, the C's would be in great shape if only they'd bring in another coach as the 'closer' for the playoffs. Could be Danny, an assistant, I don't care, go one step beyond the Simmons piece and let Posey run things. Only problem is human nature, egos and pride don't allow for it. Oh well.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:36 pm
by Celtic Esquire
leper-con wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Ask yourself this.

You don't think Phil Jackson or POP would get these guys better shots, isolate the Cavs weakest link and exploit it? God we have D west on PP and we don't post him up, he tries to tke hjim off the dribble. The first thing PP should do is go down to he post and abuse DWEST.

Your telling me that 3-20plus carreer scorers are all of a sudden unable to score. It is this god awful offese we are running. We need to push the pace and take advatage of Rondo in th eopen court and KG's athleticism as well as get PP and Ray easy buckets. THIS is coaching 101 something Doc failed.


Head. Meet. Nail.

And when someone like Wally is guarding Ray Allen, you know what play Glenn Rivers runs? A one-on-one iso with Ray trying to take Wally off the dribble. Even though Ray is able to beat Wally easily, all that does is collapse Wallace and Big Z on him.

I'm so frustrated right now.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:42 pm
by Prophet_C
Great article. He's pretty spot on.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:48 pm
by tombattor
Yup, he's right on the money. Doc has to be fired after the season, if not sooner. He has done nothing to warrant an extension. And Cassell needs to be kidnapped before tonight's game and be released after the playoffs. We can't afford to give Doc the temptation to put him in the game.