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Man, I was screaming for him to be playing even after Game 1 vs. Atlanta---cause I knew Doc was making a mistake by changing his rotation and KILLING our chemistry----Hopefully Doc goes with him the rest of the way.

That dive and dish to Posey was BETTER than the Dave Cowens dive in the 70's.....Classic Celtic moment that should be replayed for years.

Energy is what this team need right now--so here's to Eddie and Big Baby in the ECF.

Hey, we won 24 games last year---and NOW we're 4 wins from the Finals---Let's enjoy this!

The ironic thing that Eddie's biggest positive to the team is caused by his greatest weakness. He can't run point, he's not a good ball handler, but that forces the offense to run through one of the big three whether it's Ray, KG or like this afternoon PP. That works much better instead of having the ball in Cassell's hand.

Bringing in Cassell was a solid move even though it hasn't worked out as planned. Young Rondo has struggled predictably and those were the moments Cassell was brought in for. It didn't work, but they can always fall back to what they were doing before which is running things through the Big 3 and using House to space the floor.

House's energy was great also. You could see he took great pride in having an impact on the game without dominating the ball.

I'm continually impressed by the amount of energy House brings to his whole game, whether or not it's an area where he actually has notable talent.

And yes -- that was a great hustle play.

I think we'll need Cassell in DET(that's pretty much why we brought him in). They have Hunter who really pressured House into turnovers in the first game versus the pistons.

I also think that if it weren't for people like you, screaming from the rooftops for Doc to play Eddie House, he may have stuck with Cassell.

House rarely even brought the ball up. He did not operate as a point guard at all. That's not what he brought to the team.

The offense ran through PP, instead of Cassell, he spread the floor and House brought energy. That's why it ended up being a good decision to play him.

I've got no problems with House because it's not like the Cavs had anyone who could take him off the dribble. The Cavs also weren't pressing or harassing our PG so why not have House bring up the ball?

I think people forget how integral he was to our second unit. He's a dead eye shooter who can put up points in a hurry. Our second unit needs to have two scorers in the game and having Sam Cassell play PG doesn't count since he never looks to create for anyone, but Sam.

House is a better fit for the C's system. The plan actually isn't to let PP "be the PG" its that every player can function like a PG and the offensive should facilitate ball movement.

This done right is exceedingly hard to defend. Guys like KG, RA and House all should get chances to set people up and be set up.. House gets this and he doesn't just pound the ball and wait for people to free up.


Pete

Rocky5000 wrote:I think we'll need Cassell in DET(that's pretty much why we brought him in). They have Hunter who really pressured House into turnovers in the first game versus the pistons.

I also think that if it weren't for people like you, screaming from the rooftops for Doc to play Eddie House, he may have stuck with Cassell.

Exactly. Eddie was alright on the floor against West and Damon Jones because they can't handle the ball either. Against Billups, Stuckey and Hunter that is a different story. Eddie had a nice hustle play but if Sam I am had the same stat line everyone would be freaking out.

Don't get me wrong I like Eddie but if he isn't shooting and making then Doc is going to need to sit his ass down as well.

Obviously Sam isn't helping if his shots aren't falling but you have to remember why he is in the game. Because the defense had turned Rondo's pass first mentality into a liability, you don't counter it with someone who is going to play the same way. Sam obviously could have played better but I don't think the issue is that he shouldn't be shooting it is he needs to be making and he isn't a alone. DET is not going to let Paul go for 40.

I still REALLY don't like Pierce running the point, even though obviously it worked today. The offense really slows down, and it's rare that we make more than 1 or 2 passes before a shot. I'd like to see Ray bring the ball up and then give it to House, get a couple of quick passes and get Pierce coming to the ball, rather than just getting ti 40 feet away.

Today wasn't about Paul running the point as much as CLE not making any adjustments off the pick and roll. I just don't think that they believed Pierce would survive the toe to toe with Lebron so they chose to hold down Ray or whoever else was on the wing and run guys off the 3 pt line and make the team's unselfishness a liability.

Plus... House disrupts the opponent....Remember,he was the one who tipped the inbounds pass to Pierce,which lead to Ray's 3 pointer at the buzzer in Charlotte for the best game winning shot of the year....No House-no Win.

ParticleMan wrote:I still REALLY don't like Pierce running the point, even though obviously it worked today. The offense really slows down, and it's rare that we make more than 1 or 2 passes before a shot. I'd like to see Ray bring the ball up and then give it to House, get a couple of quick passes and get Pierce coming to the ball, rather than just getting ti 40 feet away.

I agree, lets hope House stays hot so we will continue to have this problem

House isn't hot, he went 1-5 today making him 5-22 in the postseason or 23% and he is a 35% shooter in the postseason in his career.

I'm glad for Eddie, he earned this playing time from the regular season and he added great hustle and good defense. Even if he doesn't make his shots, he still requires a defender on him which helps spread the floor.

Rocky5000 wrote:They have Hunter who really pressured House into turnovers in the first game versus the pistons.

I'm almost sure they'll play Stuckey over Hunter.

Eddie didn't shoot well, but he was the man!!! There were so many hustle plays he made and he got the crowd going big time!

There were at least 3 or 4 "Eddie! Eddie!" chants that broke out throughout the game and each of his hustle plays got the entire arena going with "Eddie!" chants. It was unbelievable how much he meant to the team beyond what the box scores shows.

No one else even came close to getting his kind of love. Of course, there was Pierce taking over, but Eddie made the big little plays and that was one of the differences in the game.

Eddie didn't shoot well, but he was the man!!! There were so many hustle plays he made and he got the crowd going big time!

There were at least 3 or 4 "Eddie! Eddie!" chants that broke out throughout the game and each of his hustle plays got the entire arena going with "Eddie!" chants. It was unbelievable how much he meant to the team beyond what the box scores shows.

No one else even came close to getting his kind of love. Of course, there was Pierce taking over, but Eddie made the big little plays and that was one of the differences in the game.

In a previous thread, I argued with you that the difference between Eddie House v. Sam Cassell was highly unlikely to win us a game. I was dead wrong. Eddie House was the difference last night. The energy and heart he displayed was awesome. He literally deserves a lifetime achievement Tommy Point award for that dive in the first half.

BrokenLeftyJumper wrote:In a previous thread, I argued with you that the difference between Eddie House v. Sam Cassell was highly unlikely to win us a game. I was dead wrong. Eddie House was the difference last night. The energy and heart he displayed was awesome. He literally deserves a lifetime achievement Tommy Point award for that dive in the first half.

Yeah, even when I was arguing with you, I wasn't anticipating his doing that. Oh and PP had a decent game to carry us. But either way, we can both agree that we're glad the Celtics are still playing!

I don't want to hear about bringing the ball up. Yes a great ball handler can dribble out of it - like Kenny Anderson or Rondo or even Banks.. But its okay to PASS out of it - you just have to help out Eddie if he is getting alot of pressure. Paul Pierce and Ray Allen can do that.

It's more work for them - but its okay for a backup. House helps the teams ball movement and provides a threat on the three point line. Whereas Sam seems to set us into a plodding mode..

Pete

GuyClinch wrote:House is a better fit for the C's system. The plan actually isn't to let PP "be the PG" its that every player can function like a PG and the offensive should facilitate ball movement.

This done right is exceedingly hard to defend. Guys like KG, RA and House all should get chances to set people up and be set up.. House gets this and he doesn't just pound the ball and wait for people to free up.


Pete

Yes. Sam should be the 3rd guard, nothing more.