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Rip's thrown elbow???
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:02 pm
by Joselo16
I don't like starting threads but since no one has made one about this topic, what the heck.
Do you guys think anything will come out of that elbow Hamilton threw at KG's face. I know the ref's just called it as a foul but in the replay you can clearly see that he was intentionally trying to hit him in his face and missed and since I've seen people getting suspended for similar stuff this post season (Songaila on Lebron) I wonder if the league will fine or suspend him for it (I highly doubt it). What do you guys think?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:05 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
Since it was against a Celtic, I'll predict NO, even though Van Gundy said it was a "dirty play" and should earn him a suspension.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:07 pm
by Datruth345
didnt hamilton elbow ray during the regular season
he needs to watch those elbows
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:08 pm
by Joselo16
Yeah and when Ray retaliated he got called for it. Now if Perk where to do it to one of their guys he would be ejected and suspended for it which is crap.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:09 pm
by CelticsWhat!
Datruth345 wrote:didnt hamilton elbow ray during the regular season
he needs to watch those elbows
It was actually Ray that elbowed Rip. But it was more of a flop on Rip's part. I thought the Songaila suspension was pathetic. Rip's move seemed a lot more intentional, but neither warrant a suspension.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:11 pm
by leper-con
You guys have seen nothing yet. this series is goinng to get really physical. once the Pistons figure out they can't beat us on talent they will try and go dirty. That is what veteran teams do.
composure is the word of the day.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:20 pm
by mr_sunshine
The elbow was nothing and not worthy of a suspension.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:26 pm
by Gant
Datruth345 wrote:didnt hamilton elbow ray during the regular season
he needs to watch those elbows
I think that's just how UCONN guys communicate. They have info-nodes at the tips of their elbows and relay information back and forth through them.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:26 pm
by Rocky5000
Robert Parish had to try to kill Laimbeer to earn a one game suspension back in the day. Now we're talking about suspending a guy for missing an elbow?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:33 pm
by Joselo16
Well going by todays standards a slap to the face is a suspension, so why wouldn't an intentional elbow be one?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:37 pm
by RickyDizzle
Well, a slap in the face is just plain disrespectful.
An elbow could be an accident (dont think so in this case, but at least it looks more natural in the flow of the game than slapping someone in the face).
-Dizzy
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:40 pm
by CeltsfanSinceBirth
I remember Ray Allen elbowing Rip in the regular season because he got fed up with being poked in the torso on defense.(I didn't realize how annoying this was until my dad started poking me in the ribs. It kinda hurts after a little while).
I don't think Rip deserves a suspension. If he made solid contact, then sure, but it barely grazed KG. Just let it go. I don't want any excuses from the Pistons if the Celts do win the series. Also, a suspension that favours the Celtics would just add fuel to all the conspiracy theorists out there who think David Stern plans on giving the title to the Celts.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:46 pm
by Joselo16
RickyDizzle wrote:Well, a slap in the face is just plain disrespectful.
An elbow could be an accident (dont think so in this case, but at least it looks more natural in the flow of the game than slapping someone in the face).
-Dizzy
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3p-HsSfehsA
I don't know this looks like its in the "flow of the game" and he just backslaps him.
I'm not saying he should be suspended but if were a fair and balanced (not like FOX news fair and balanced ) league then he would be.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:58 pm
by kmgarnett21
he SHOULD be suspended, but he wont. if the NBA's gonna be consistent & not favor certain players, then they def should suspend him. songaila got suspended for gettin tangled up w/lebron. this was a clear elbow attempt at KG's face, yet it was only a normal foul called.
once again, the nba needs to do something with all of this crap. its pathetic. everyone & their momma knows if lebron or kobe got an elbow like that, that the person who threw it would get suspended. KG should cried about it longer like lebron does EVERYTIME he gets touched, then maybe they woulda called somethin else. its so annoying seein lebron cry like a baby anytime he gets knocked to the floor. for him to be a beast, he sure isnt as tough as one with the way he acts.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:24 pm
by RickyDizzle
Joselo16 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3p-HsSfehsAI don't know this looks like its in the "flow of the game" and he just backslaps him.
I'm not saying he should be suspended but if were a fair and balanced (not like FOX news fair and balanced ) league then he would be.
Well I dont think the error is not suspending Rip, I think the error was suspending Songalia.
I agree that looked in the flow of the game and I think that was the league overprotecting Lebron.
Just because Lebron gets ridiculous calls doesnt mean they should make one on Rip that may greatly alter the series...two wrongs dont make a right...
...although you are preaching to the choir on needing consistency from the refs, I think we all agree on that.
-Dizzy
P.S. Even though I said I didnt like the suspension on Songalia it was still worse than what Rip did to KG, especially since he missed contact mostly.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:08 pm
by Joselo16
[quote="RickyDizzle"][/quote]
Then I think we agree with each other because I don't think Songaila should have been suspended either, to me it's just playoff basketball. I just wanted to bring up the argument of inconsistency from the league in these matters. One gets suspended while the other will most likely get nothing for it.
I will disagree in that what Rip did was worse because of his intention, which was to was to connect his elbow to KG's face in order to cause damage. Still I don't think a suspension is warranted, it's just playoff basketball to me. Now if the C's pull the same stuff will we be allowed to do it? I hope so, but I doubt it.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:04 am
by SuperDeluxe
Gant wrote:I think that's just how UCONN guys communicate. They have info-nodes at the tips of their elbows and relay information back and forth through them.
Absolutely. Too bad KG skipped college, and now doesn't have info-nods on his face. Not Rip's fault by any means.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:29 am
by airjaw
leper-con wrote:You guys have seen nothing yet. this series is goinng to get really physical. once the Pistons figure out they can't beat us on talent they will try and go dirty. That is what veteran teams do.
composure is the word of the day.
I used to respect the Pistons a lot but I lost all respect I had for them when BEN freaking wallace started flopping on Miami 2 years ago.
From then on it just spiraled out of control, everyone on Detroit started doing it. It was ridiculous seeing Ben fly 4 feet after someone placed a hand on him. This was a grown man, probably 250 lbs, all muscle, flopping.
Once Detroit realized they weren't going to win they started flopping. they almost pulled the series out too
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:57 am
by chakdaddy
Trying to kill Laimbeer isn't something that should be punished. It should be encouraged. Even at WNBA games in 2008.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:00 am
by Tricky Ricky
If Im the Wizards Im pissed that all Rip got was a foul