Mike Freeman of CBS Sportsline is moderately pessimistic:
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10855499
Media speculation on Pierce's knee
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Media speculation on Pierce's knee
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Chris Sheridan of ESPN/Daily Dime reports that Pierce was significantly hobbled after the game.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime ... ime-080606
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime ... ime-080606
After the game, Pierce was walking with a pronounced limp as he exited the postgame interview room and headed back to the locker room, but some 45 minutes later the injury was clearly bothering him more.
As he walked to his car, Pierce was still wearing his warm-ups. The snaps along the right side were hanging open, revealing a wrapping of several ace bandages from the bottom of his calf to the top of his thigh, an additional layer of white tape wrapped around the lower half of his hamstring, ending just above his knee.
Pierce's feet moved no more than 12 inches with each step, and as you watched him begin to navigate the four flights of stairs from the locker room level to the players' parking lot, you couldn't help but wonder exactly how much adrenalin had fueled his comeback. The knee injury could also keep him out of Game 2 or, at the very least, reduce his effectiveness.
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But again, this series is only one game old, and Pierce left the building looking more like someone in need of a leg transplant than someone who will bounce back quickly with treatment. ...
Because ambulance or no ambulance, the truth was The Truth could barely walk by the time the night was over.
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Not true - plenty of people have played directly after an injury in a game and then have been unable to play later on. Playing on adrenalin is a real phenomenon. But "playing" isn't enough - guts don't allow you to move, play defense etc. You need to be at a high level of effectiveness to play in the NBA.
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Plaschke's article itself isn't as bad as the headline/byline infers:
"Lakers fall for this one
Pierce not hurt as bad as he would have had the Lakers believe."
Keep in mind, sports columnists actually don't write those parts of the article.
And if Plaschke did mean to infer Pierce exaggerated an injury, it only speaks to the lack of NBA knowledge most sportswriters continue to have.
"Lakers fall for this one
Pierce not hurt as bad as he would have had the Lakers believe."
Keep in mind, sports columnists actually don't write those parts of the article.
And if Plaschke did mean to infer Pierce exaggerated an injury, it only speaks to the lack of NBA knowledge most sportswriters continue to have.
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Look, there's a difference between faking an injury and exaggerating an injury.
You go from wheelchair to on the court in 1:45 of game time, and there was no exaggeration?
I think probably getting hurt is in the back of the mind of most of these guys, so if something happens they're like "Oh, no", then figure out gradually that they're OK. Something like that makes the most sense to me. I guess we'll find out more in the next couple of days.
You go from wheelchair to on the court in 1:45 of game time, and there was no exaggeration?
I think probably getting hurt is in the back of the mind of most of these guys, so if something happens they're like "Oh, no", then figure out gradually that they're OK. Something like that makes the most sense to me. I guess we'll find out more in the next couple of days.
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My base case is that playing on the knee messes him up for a while, but then he heals. I.e., he plays Sunday (2 days off, and close to a must win). Then he misses Tuesday (1 day off plus trip, and a hard game to win anyway). Then he's back Thursday.
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Look, there's a difference between faking an injury and exaggerating an injury.
You go from wheelchair to on the court in 1:45 of game time, and there was no exaggeration?
Once a hater - always hater. Dude - the trainers/medical staff wanted him in the wheel chair and to carry him off - for precautionary purposes. <g> Like I said if you followed sports you would know their are numerous cases of guys playing through injuries for one game and then being out or needing surgery.
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Well, I don't know if the purpose of the article was to imply that Pierce had some sort of plan to fake an injury for glory. That's obvious BS.
But, "It's a shame this is even brought up?"
Pierce was on the court 1:45 after being carried off. I'm no doctor, but I would guess that a recovery time of 1:45 is very rarely the case in serious injuries. So naturally people try to figure out the pieces of a puzzle that don't quite fit. Was he really hurt? Did he think he was really hurt even if he wasn't? Was he hurt and just played through it with adrenalin? I mean, none of us really know the answer. But you can't stop people from speculating.
And the replay. Was there an "Oh, no!" moment? I was recording the game and looked at it a bunch of times. It didn't even look like his knee got touched, or twisted, or anything. Not that I saw.
Granted, that's not always the case. Tony's injury last year didn't look like much on the replay, so who knows?
Anywayy, I'm shocked that people would even question the possibility that a player might exaggerate an injury or a fall to the floor. In the NBA? Are you kidding?
I've had a grand old time this playoffs watching Rondo, my favorite player, milk his little falls to the court for all they're worth. He's obviously trying to bait the refs into inflating garden variety fouls into flagrants. He lays down there, without moving a muscle, looking like he's paralyzed, or got a concussion, then heroically, a minute later, he staggers to his feet and shoots his free throws. Sure, the game probably shouldn't be played that way, but it is entertainment, after all. And the players are entertainers.
Another guy who does this, in another sport, is Youkilis. Watch him the next time he gets a boo-boo. You get academy-award winning winces, and yells, and gnashing of teeth, the whole nine yards. Some guys are just wired that way.
To be fair, Pierce isn't wired that way, or hasn't seemed to be, over the course of his career. But there he was, 1:45 later, after blowing his knee out for his career. I mean, wondering about that is completely normal, in my opinion.
He's probably hurt, but who isn't hurt after an NBA finals game? Was he the only guy that was a little creaky walking out of the locker room last night? I watched guys playing through all kinds of body blows last night, blood on their faces, etc.
But, "It's a shame this is even brought up?"
Pierce was on the court 1:45 after being carried off. I'm no doctor, but I would guess that a recovery time of 1:45 is very rarely the case in serious injuries. So naturally people try to figure out the pieces of a puzzle that don't quite fit. Was he really hurt? Did he think he was really hurt even if he wasn't? Was he hurt and just played through it with adrenalin? I mean, none of us really know the answer. But you can't stop people from speculating.
And the replay. Was there an "Oh, no!" moment? I was recording the game and looked at it a bunch of times. It didn't even look like his knee got touched, or twisted, or anything. Not that I saw.
Granted, that's not always the case. Tony's injury last year didn't look like much on the replay, so who knows?
Anywayy, I'm shocked that people would even question the possibility that a player might exaggerate an injury or a fall to the floor. In the NBA? Are you kidding?
I've had a grand old time this playoffs watching Rondo, my favorite player, milk his little falls to the court for all they're worth. He's obviously trying to bait the refs into inflating garden variety fouls into flagrants. He lays down there, without moving a muscle, looking like he's paralyzed, or got a concussion, then heroically, a minute later, he staggers to his feet and shoots his free throws. Sure, the game probably shouldn't be played that way, but it is entertainment, after all. And the players are entertainers.
Another guy who does this, in another sport, is Youkilis. Watch him the next time he gets a boo-boo. You get academy-award winning winces, and yells, and gnashing of teeth, the whole nine yards. Some guys are just wired that way.
To be fair, Pierce isn't wired that way, or hasn't seemed to be, over the course of his career. But there he was, 1:45 later, after blowing his knee out for his career. I mean, wondering about that is completely normal, in my opinion.
He's probably hurt, but who isn't hurt after an NBA finals game? Was he the only guy that was a little creaky walking out of the locker room last night? I watched guys playing through all kinds of body blows last night, blood on their faces, etc.
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C's would have won without any injury faking. You got to be kidding me. Some "fans" around here kill me.. Stop hating.
Your NOT a doctor and I am telling you guys have played through things like broken legs before. Also they can shoot you up in the training room for the pain <g> You ever even PLAY sports dude?
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Your NOT a doctor and I am telling you guys have played through things like broken legs before. Also they can shoot you up in the training room for the pain <g> You ever even PLAY sports dude?
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