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KG is Starting to Play Soft Again 

Post#1 » by return2glory » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:14 pm

Let me start by saying thank God for Paul Pierce, Leon Powe, and Ray Allen and us being up 2-0.

Now to KG. I don't like the way KG has been playing for the last 5 plus quarters. He has become is soft, 'I'm scared of contact', little bitch again.

In the last 5 plus quarters, KG has gone 8-27 shooting. That is a 29.6% shooting from the field. In game 1, KG missed 9 straight shots in ther last quarter and a half, before getting that great put back dunk.

KG has reverted to settling for his 18-22 footers again. I don't him taking those shots sometimes, but when KG starts taking 90% of his shots from that range, that becomes bad basketball.

KG has been rebounding very well, I'll give that. But he needs to man up and take it to the basket more and post more.

I want to see KG play like he did in the first half of game one, where he had 16 points and scored inside and outisde. Not this weak ass, I'm a 7 footer that wants to play 20 feet from the basket.

I know the Lakers are double teaming him int the post now, but KG needs to adjust and be tough. He needs to stop playing like Brad Lohaus on offensive and take it to Gasol and Odem down low.
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Post#2 » by Banks2Pierce » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:16 pm

I actually don't agree with this post.

KG plays the same way every game and is called soft when his jumper is not falling.
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Post#3 » by return2glory » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:25 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:I actually don't agree with this post.

KG plays the same way every game and is called soft when his jumper is not falling.


When his jumper isn't falling is the time when he needs to go into the post and get either closer looks or draw contact and get to the line. He is too talented of a player to just keep settling for outside shots, especially when they aren't falling.
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Post#4 » by CelticsWhat! » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:27 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:I actually don't agree with this post.

KG plays the same way every game and is called soft when his jumper is not falling.


That's a good point. But that's what happens when you settle for jumpers. Sometimes your shot's going to be off. But I guarantee you KG would never go 8-27 if he made a more concerted effort to take it to the hoop when it presented itself.

But what I was most discouraged with was one of the last possessions, when I believe the Celtics were up 4. They set up a play to get the ball down low to KG, but it really seemed like he didn't want the ball. He made a weak effort to get position and then immediately settled on setting a pick for Rondo on the corner instead. At that point of the game, KG needs to do whatever possible to get open and get the ball down low. We needed a high % shot, and he didn't get that for us.
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Post#5 » by theFRANCHISE » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:33 pm

if kg's playing soft then pau gasol and odom must be 2-ply toilet paper with how soft they're playing.

Everytime he posts up they double team him, so he's forced to pass or take that long jumper...
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Post#6 » by BrokenLeftyJumper » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:33 pm

I actually don't agree with this post.

KG plays the same way every game and is called soft when his jumper is not falling.


Yea. This type of thread is becoming annoying. KG is soft if his jumper is off, which is rare. He plays the exact same way most games, puts up huge numbers, and people love him and nobody mentions him being soft.

Watch the first half of game one again. Sure KG got a couple of dunks, but he scored almost all the rest of his points on the jump shots that he's now soft for taking. There is this misconception that KG went and beasted on Gasol in the post in the first half of game 1. He didn't. He shot jumpers in his face and got a dunk off the dribble. The only difference between the first half of game 1 and game 2 is that the shots weren't going down.

And besides, KG is so much more of a mismatch for Gasol out on the perimeter where he can turn and face. KG has many more advantages on Gasol out there. Down in the post, Gasol isn't giving anything up, he's just as tall as KG.
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Re: KG is Starting to Play Soft Again 

Post#7 » by Kefa461 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:34 pm

return2glory wrote:Let me start by saying thank God for Paul Pierce, Leon Powe, and Ray Allen and us being up 2-0.

Now to KG. I don't like the way KG has been playing for the last 5 plus quarters. He has become is soft, 'I'm scared of contact', little bitch again.

In the last 5 plus quarters, KG has gone 8-27 shooting. That is a 29.6% shooting from the field. In game 1, KG missed 9 straight shots in ther last quarter and a half, before getting that great put back dunk.

KG has reverted to settling for his 18-22 footers again. I don't him taking those shots sometimes, but when KG starts taking 90% of his shots from that range, that becomes bad basketball.

KG has been rebounding very well, I'll give that. But he needs to man up and take it to the basket more and post more.

I want to see KG play like he did in the first half of game one, where he had 16 points and scored inside and outisde. Not this weak ass, I'm a 7 footer that wants to play 20 feet from the basket.

I know the Lakers are double teaming him int the post now, but KG needs to adjust and be tough. He needs to stop playing like Brad Lohaus on offensive and take it to Gasol and Odem down low.



It's called spreading the floor.......he's not a center....Perk is working inside, Paul has been taking Kobe inside too. KG is ok. Game plan dude
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Post#8 » by GreenGrizz » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:37 pm

The Lakers kept fouling on him. How can he play basketball that way?
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Post#9 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:38 pm

KG is getting good looks. I would like to see him from 15 feet and not 18-20.

They didn't post him because Rondo destroyed Fisher off the dribble and got into the lane. They didn't want to clog up the lane with a low post guy. His shot will fall. As long as Rondo is getting in the lane, keep KG on the perimeter. Would like to see him take it off the dribble to the bakset however. He needs to take one mroe dribble.
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Post#10 » by return2glory » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:52 pm

I'm suprised that KG does not have much of a mid range game. I would like to see him pump fake the 20 footers and take one to two dribbles towards the basket and pull up for about a 8-10 footer. He sometimes does this and instead of taking that shot he passes it away to a player about 15 feet from the basket or throws it away.

If someone worked with KG with this move, he would be a dominant offensive player, easily scoring 25 a game.
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Post#11 » by Rocky5000 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:54 pm

theFRANCHISE wrote:if kg's playing soft then pau gasol and odom must be 2-ply toilet paper with how soft they're playing.

Everytime he posts up they double team him, so he's forced to pass or take that long jumper...


Actually, I thought Pau was really the aggressor whenever he got the ball last night and did take it into the post way more than KG. If the Lakers had gone to Pau more, who was obviously hot from the field, the game could have turned out differently.
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Post#12 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:57 pm

Pau played soft. He was aggressive early, but he didn't make himself available. He has good skills, but he didn't shutdown the paint defensively and did little to bother any celtic going to the basket.
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Post#13 » by Prophet_C » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:59 pm

return2glory wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



When his jumper isn't falling is the time when he needs to go into the post and get either closer looks or draw contact and get to the line. He is too talented of a player to just keep settling for outside shots, especially when they aren't falling.


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Post#14 » by MaxwellSmart » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:05 pm

Look at it this way: We're up 2-0 and we haven't gotten anything out of Perkins yet...and KG can play a lot better....!
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Post#15 » by tlee324 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:06 pm

I'd never call Garnett soft, because he's absolutely not, IMO. It's just that when the shot's not falling, he has the ability to take and make higher-percentage baskets. But when you're taking jumpers and they aren't falling, and others know you have the ability to score inside, it becomes frustrating to them and they turn to the term "soft" because shooting those jumpers gives the impression that you're trying to avoid contact.
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Re: KG is Starting to Play Soft Again 

Post#16 » by return2glory » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:07 pm

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It's called spreading the floor.......he's not a center....Perk is working inside, Paul has been taking Kobe inside too. KG is ok. Game plan dude
We are up 2-0. The shots will fall..... 8)


So you rather have Perkins posting instead of KG posting? Besides Perkins hardly played last night.
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Re: KG is Starting to Play Soft Again 

Post#17 » by Kefa461 » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:09 pm

return2glory wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



So you rather have Perkins posting instead of KG posting? Besides Perkins hardly played last night.


Not me bro....Doc has Perk on the lower block and Paul on the block last night and the 1st game....Perk has no 15 ft game so KG has to play a bit out.... 8)


I would guess it saves KG some pounding too....... 8)
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Post#18 » by return2glory » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:10 pm

MaxwellSmart wrote:Look at it this way: We're up 2-0 and we haven't gotten anything out of Perkins yet...and KG can play a lot better....!


Exactly. And that is why I started the tread giving thankful that we are up 2-0.

What I don't like is when people can't admit when a player isn't playing well. I gaurantee a lot more people would be on KG right now if the series was 1-1.
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Post#19 » by BrokenLeftyJumper » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:45 pm

What I don't like is when people can't admit when a player isn't playing well. I gaurantee a lot more people would be on KG right now if the series was 1-1.


You should have just named this thread 'KG is missing his shots again', not restarted your 'KG is soft' diatribe. Why do you just assume that KG is a dominant post player? That he can score down low easier than he can from the outside? It makes no sense to me. KG has built a hall of fame career on being able to play away from the hoop. What your seeing from him every night is his game, when he misses shots it doesn't mean he's being soft, it means hes just missing shots. I'll take the 'soft' KG who has become a dominant player based on his ability to shoot the ball from the perimeter, over this idealized fantasyland 'tough' version of KG who has this dynamite post up game that nobody has ever actually seen.
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Post#20 » by return2glory » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:56 pm

BrokenLeftyJumper wrote:
What I don't like is when people can't admit when a player isn't playing well. I gaurantee a lot more people would be on KG right now if the series was 1-1.


You should have just named this thread 'KG is missing his shots again', not restarted your 'KG is soft' diatribe. Why do you just assume that KG is a dominant post player? That he can score down low easier than he can from the outside? It makes no sense to me. KG has built a hall of fame career on being able to play away from the hoop. What your seeing from him every night is his game, when he misses shots it doesn't mean he's being soft, it means hes just missing shots. I'll take the 'soft' KG who has become a dominant player based on his ability to shoot the ball from the perimeter, over this idealized fantasyland 'tough' version of KG who has this dynamite post up game.


No one is saying KG has a dominant post up game. He doesn't come close to being a dominant post up player. But he can be an effective post player. He is 7 feet tall, has long arms, good jumping ability, and a very high point of release on his shot that is nearly unblockable.

And I don't have a problem with KG shooting 20 footers, I mentioned that and realize that is a huge part of his offense. What I mind is that when his outside shot isn't falling, he needs to get closer looks and get to the line.

There is a reason why KG hasn't made it to the Finals and his teams have struggled in the playoffs. The reason is that KG settles too much on his outside game. In the playoffs, it's more about getting easier baskets.

Everytime we needed points last night with the Lakers making that huge run, KG was nowhere. Pierce is the one that got us the points. How did Pierce do this? By driving to the basket and either getting to the line or scoring on lay ups.

This team needs another low post scorer in a bad way. I've been saying this for a while now and hope Ainge can improve the team in this area in the draft.

KG is what he is and I'm grateful that he is on our team. And I know his what his game is and what his weaknesses are. There aren't many. But I now KG is a capable low post scorer and he needs to get on the block a little more and make some plays down there.

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