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C's need a consistent post presence among the starters

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:22 pm
by campybatman
Because Garnett at times reminds more of Antoine Walker than a true power forward. To me, Garnett is a small forward. I've always thought this of him. Imagine if the Celtics had a Duncan. I know... I'm just saying that the Spurs have a player that they can rely on to pass inside to and score and/or draw a foul. In contrast, Garnett seemingly prefers to play on the perimeter as oppose in the post. Garnett is so frustrating to watch for me.

I mean I wish the coaching staff would involve Perkins and draw up more offensive plays for him seeing as he's the only starter who will work down low. Perkins has enough post moves to be an asset and not a liability offensively. The staff isn't developing his sills or giving him opportunities to add something offensively. Because Perkins has shown enough examples during the regular season and post season to believe that he can be a complete player (score, defend, pass, convert free throws and the intangibles). If only Perkins could keep himself out of foul trouble. Because he and Powe and perhaps Davis, if he were playing in the series, are capable poster players. They get at offensive rebounds and can score inside.

I don't recall the writer or the specific article but the point was raised I believe that the Celtics would be such a bigger problem for the Lakers during the playoffs if Garnett was a viable threat on the box. I concur. You aren't going to draw more fouls taking jump shots than being aggressive inside and attempting higher percentage shots. What I can't understand is that Garnett does possess solid post moves to where he can score on Gasol, Odom or whoever in this series. Why does Garnett insist on deferring shots and moving away from the basket and not toward it? Is he too selfless?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:32 am
by SonicYouth34
Did you just compare Garnett to Antoine Walker?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:35 am
by m23uza1hem36
He does make a point, KG does like to drift, he's been like that most of his career but he's also been effective year-in year-out.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:47 am
by GuyClinch
Not true. After we win the championship people will see you don't need a consistent post presence. All that matters is that your offense scores efficently enough..

Pete

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:04 pm
by Al-Haqq
We do have one. Kevin Garnett. He just needs to actually do it 1st!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:36 am
by campybatman
GuyClinch wrote:Not true. After we win the championship people will see you don't need a consistent post presence. All that matters is that your offense scores efficently enough..



First, I never said anything about the Celtics being unable to defeat the Lakers in this series if Garnett isn't effective consistently down low. It would be an asset if Garnett were... But, I didn't say if he isn't it's a detriment to the Celtics. I said, I'm just saying that the Spurs have a player that they can rely on to pass inside to and score and/or draw a foul. In contrast, Garnett seemingly prefers to play on the perimeter as oppose in the post. I used Tim Duncan as an example of a team that has a reliable post threat in their starting line up. Second, I'm a Boston Celtics fan who prefers not to assume that this team will win the championship when they haven't actually won it yet. The series isn't over or is it?

Garnett's statistics in Minnesota and Boston (and post play) aren't indicative of a player who's a regular post player who get the majority of his points inside.

Having a post player(s) that can consistently score inside for you and grab some offensive rebounds for second or third chance opportunities at points can only add a dynamic to your team, offensively.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:27 am
by Fencer reregistered
The Cs are usually pretty good at offensive rebounding. Tonight, however, the Lakers started off so well in transition that the Celtics are conceding most rebounds at their end of the floor in order to get back faster.