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OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:55 am
by campybatman
Seattle will leave behind one NBA championship from 1978-1979 when they'd defeated the Washington Bullets in five games. Dennis Johnson was the finals MVP that year. Seattle had reached the finals the prior year but lost to Washington. They would reach it one more time in 1995-1996 falling to Chicago.
SuperSonics owner Clay Bennett could end up paying $75 million to move the NBA franchise to Oklahoma City this year, and he won't be taking the team's name or colors with him.
Bennett agreed to settle a lawsuit with the city of Seattle, bringing an end to a contentious relationship that resulted in a trial in which the judge was due to issue her ruling Wednesday.
"We believe this is a fair and appropriate resolution to the litigation involving the Sonics and the City of Seattle," Bennett said. "We are pleased that the uncertainty is lifted for our players, staff and Oklahoma City fans who can now make plans for the immediate future."
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10885032
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 1:07 am
by hiphop1
Its a shame.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:10 am
by phoolishly_insane
So does not mean they won't be OKC Supersonics? I'm confused????
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:37 am
by ARB729
Clay Bennett is a prick .. no other word for him.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:39 am
by Ed Pinkney
This is a sad situation, I feel for the Sonics fans who have been screwed over for the last decade plus by a dodgy ownership group that then sold the team to a dodgier ownership group that has stolen the team from the city. The people who supported the Hornets in OKC showed they will appreciate the NBA, but Bennett is a shady character who I personally dont think deserves the success he is probably about to achieve with the move.
That is a positive that he wont take the name and colours, meaning that the Sonics may return at some stage. Perhaps Memphis, Sacramento, New Orleans or the Clippers (teams that often get mentioned as not lasting in their current locations) may move there. I don't see any expansion licenses being given out for a long time.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:44 am
by Truthiracy
RIP LarBrd33
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:49 am
by campybatman
The new nickname will be decided between either the Barons, Thunderbirds, Thunder or Outlaws.
How could the NBA allow the nickname "Outlaws" when it was decided in the past to do away with the Bullets? I don't understand why franchises don't come up with a nickname that pertains to something historical or relevant to that city.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 3:12 am
by SonicYouth34
That sucks huge. Seattle is such a great city and they get a huge talent in Durant and they won't even get to see him mature and win multiple scoring titles
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 3:15 am
by phoolishly_insane
This is like an Expansion team.... but there will be no more Seattle Sonics anymore.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 3:37 am
by Celtics_Champs
Damn. No more supersonics. One of my favorite team besides celtics of course.
Barons, Thunderbirds, Thunder?? Ugh.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 4:00 am
by campybatman
One word: Ouch!
These articles just rip into Seattle.
Why all the negativity toward Seattle and derogatory comments about Oklahoma City?
Oklahoma Hillbillies Prepare for Sonic Boom
Seattle SuperSonics fans suddenly feel that its franchise has the same history as the Baltimore Colts and the Cleveland Browns. Fine. Lie to yourselves then. Other than one NBA Championship in 1979, what else have they done? Got drilled by the Chicago Bulls in the NBA Finals in the mid-90s? If they want to keep the SuperSonics name and its 25 uniform changes over the past 20 minutes, more power to them.
Key Arena was built in 1995, with a capacity of 17,098. How could the fans of Seattle not see this coming? Why build something and not make it up to NBA standards? Why not build a facility of at least 20,000 fans? Had Seattle had done that; this potential move is a dead-issue.
I Come in Peace Seattle; White Flag Offer on Sonics Issue All Oklahomans Are Hillbillies; Call Dem Sonics the HillbilliesSOS: Soon (to be) Oklahoma's Sonicshttp://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Sc ... /NBA/27802
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 4:47 am
by TheSheriff
As long as the offical name is the Oklahoma City Thunderbirds. That is just too long a name for a pro sports team. It should be something shorter. the Oklahoma Outlaws works because the famous Dalton Gang and Pretty Boy Floyd were from Oklahoma and i believe Bonnie and Clyde spent time in that state. Of course the NBA has problems with its image, so maybe not.
Sooners is taken, but the could be the
Oklahoma Boomers.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 5:10 am
by campybatman
In professional sports, cities lose their franchises all the time. Before the Red Sox and Patriots, there were the two other Boston baseball and football franchises that would later become the Braves and Redskins. So, Seattle will possibly get another basketball team in time. The fans simply must be patient.
This information is from a site similar to Wikipedia, so there could be inaccuracies.
The franchise originally played in Boston as the Boston Braves. In 1953, declining fan support precipitated a move to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where they played in County Stadium until 1965. They then moved to Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium and became the A-Braves.
The Boston Braves was the name of the Braves from 1913 to 1952. A World Series was won in 1914. Prior to being the Boston Braves, they were known as the Boston Beaneaters, from 1889 to 1912. The Boston Red Stockings is the original name for the Atlanta Braves, coming into existence during the first year the National League began, 1877.
http://everything2.com/title/Atlanta%2520BravesThe Washington Redskins franchise was formed in 1932 in Boston, Massachusetts, under George Preston Marshall, where they were called the Braves. The Braves were quickly renamed in 1933 to the Redskins, after they moved to Fenway Park, and in 1937 they moved to Washington D.C. right after their first winning season in 1936 where they lost to the Green Bay Packers in the NFL Championship Game. The primary motivating factor for this move was Marshall's disgust with Boston's football fans - or rather, the lack of fans. In the final home game of the 1936 season, only 4,800 fans showed up to see the Redskins kick the crap out of Pittsburgh. In Washington D.C. the Redskins sold-out every single game at R.F.K. Stadium between 1966 and 1996, and the waiting list was in the thousands.
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=wa ... archy.y=11This actually doesn't look bad.


Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 6:55 am
by Al n' Perk No Layups!
I can live with the name Barons or Outlaws. Those would be pretty cool.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 8:20 am
by GuyClinch
Meh. It's still a screw job for the Seattle fans - IMHO. I feel bad for them. I wouldn't want to lose my NBA franchise..
Pete
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:25 am
by daveisceltics
The Outlaws..How hickish.
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:47 pm
by CeltsfaninDC
LucerneStDoggz wrote:RIP LarBrd33
he really lost his mind over there last night. kind of low though kicking those guys when they were down. hadn'tthey been through enough by that point?
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:52 pm
by MyInsatiableOne
GuyClinch wrote:Meh. It's still a screw job for the Seattle fans - IMHO. I feel bad for them. I wouldn't want to lose my NBA franchise..
Pete
Absolutely. A shame.
And unlike Charlotte, Seattle should get a new team. Charlotte had a **** owner, too, but the fans took a lot of blame for that. Seattle just got jobbed by Stern's best friend...
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 1:51 pm
by campybatman
Kemp made some valid points.
"They can't complain about a new arena because they're not winning enough games, period," Kemp says. "They need to put up or shut up. When I got into the NBA, the thing of it was, if you won, you got a new arena. But if you lost, you had to work to get the arena.
"You can't be a losing team and get a new arena. That's not fair. That's not fair! That's how I see it."
Kemp won't allow too many thoughts of the Oklahoma Raiders winning this case. He assumes the city will win the lawsuit, assumes Judge Marsha Pechman will do what's right on Wednesday and enforce the KeyArena lease, assumes the Sonics will be here for at least another two years.
Optimism is his shield. Kemp prefers to look at these next two years and make a demand of the current owners: Win. Or at least try.
Stop demolishing the team. Stop building for a future Seattle may never see. Stop torturing a distressed fan base.
"This is what I think, man," Kemp says. "I'm afraid that if they bring the Sonics back, what kind of team are they going to put on the court? Are they going to put the effort out?
"If they bring the team back, are they going to really put a good team out there? Or do we just want any team? You've got to at least try."
Kemp references one of the most infuriating aspects of losing the Sonics. It's like NBA basketball hasn't existed here for two years. The Sonics have a 51-113 record with Clay Bennett and Co. as the owners. They've lost nearly 70 percent of their games, traded Ray Allen, let Rashard Lewis bounce in free agency and made no significant free-agent acquisitions.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/j ... wer30.htmlI guess if this were to happen, it would be similar to the New Orleans Hornets playing in Oklahoma City for a little while and then returning to New Orleans. I'm not sure Stern would want to see this occur, though. My guess, he would prefer that the city of Seattle just get another team within a decade.
But Schultz, who sold the franchise to Bennett's group in 2006, does hold out hope of ultimately overturning the process and getting the Sonics back to Seattle by 2009-10 as he proceeds with his legal attempt to reverse the sale on the basis of fraud and breach of contract. "Our lawsuit is separate," said Schultz's attorney, Richard Yarmuth. "We are not a party to (the city's) settlement and, in fact, we chose not to participate in it."
A source close to Schultz's former ownership group said the Starbucks chief will not file an injunction seeking to prevent the immediate move of the team to Oklahoma City, which would require convincing U.S. District Judge Marsha Pechman that Schultz had a legitimate chance of winning his case right now as well as posting a significant bond to cover any potential losses suffered by the PBC's inability to move. Instead, Schultz will let the team transfer to Oklahoma City and seek a trial by next spring, at which time his lawyers would have full opportunity to present their case and seek a reversal, while also giving the city and the Steve Ballmer group the opportunity to line up an arena solution.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketbal ... ial03.html
Re: OT: Seattle franchise will move to Oklahoma City
Posted: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:42 pm
by Tricky Ricky
This sucks for fans of the NBA especially Sonics fans. Luckily we probably can never lose the Celtics, if we did I dont know what Id do.