Random FA's who don't deserve their own thread

greenbeans · Post #1 » by **greenbeans** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:19 pm

i figured the board is already cluttered as it is so why not have an all-in-one thread about the more obscure(relatively speaking) possibilities and signings.

anyone watch Quinton Ross with any amount of regularity? hes always pegged as a Posey-type defensive roleplayer and hes my first choice if we do lose out on pose but i havent seen him play more than 7-10 times.

I know Gomes got a QO but how far will Minny go to sign him?? a good offensive sparkplug off the bench if again, pose doesnt resign.
anyone know where in the hell Justin Reed went??

SonicYouth34 · Post #2 » by **SonicYouth34** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:36 pm

CJ Miles is the first guy on my list. He's got great length, can shoot, can defend, looks a lot like Ray Allen and is one year older than me, 21.

Collinto · Post #3 » by **Collinto** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:36 pm

Nenad Krstic.

He is coming off a poor year, after surgery. This is a buy low scenerio. He is only 24...just about to turn 25 in a couple of wks (1 yr older than Perk) and can play C and PF. He is 7 ft and a nice offensive player. He has that jumper that worked so well for PJ in the playoffs. And before the injury, he was an improving offensive big with great upside. When healthy he was putting up 16.5/6.5/1 on 52% FG%. He never got it going last year (6.6/4.4 in 18 mpg) but even that is not terrible as a back-up big who if healthy is much more valuable.

He is restricted, but the Nets don't want to give him more than two (due to their pursuit of Lebron in '10, presumably). Not to mention the log jam that is the Nets front line.

If we loose Posey, or don't use the MLE on him, this guy could be a steal if he comes in heathy. Before getting hurt he was probably looking at 8-10 million/yr for 5 years, now in this market he may be had for less than the full MLE. His QO is 2.7 million. Would he take a contract similar to Turiaf's offer from W's (4yr/17)? Maybe he is target for the Clipps now?

Gomes3PC · Post #4 » by **Gomes3PC** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:40 pm

Nets have a glut of PF/C types all of whom make a lot less money than Krstic could get offered. He's not really the type to give you D and toughness next to KG, but he has good shooting touch and is a legit 6-11/7-0, which is always helpful when going up against guys like Ilgauskas and Gasol. He certainly wouldn't be the worst use of Wyc's money out there (see- Brown, Kwame).

greenbeans · Post #5 » by **greenbeans** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:41 pm

Krstic would be a GREAT pickup if we dont get posey. i dont know how they feel about him down there, but Sean Williams would be a coup if we could trade for him somehow.

Marley2Hendrix · Post #6 » by **Marley2Hendrix** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:45 pm

Collinto wrote:Nenad Krstic.

He is coming off a poor year, after surgery. This is a buy low scenerio. He is only 24...just about to turn 25 in a couple of wks (1 yr older than Perk) and can play C and PF. He is 7 ft and a nice offensive player. He has that jumper that worked so well for PJ in the playoffs. And before the injury, he was an improving offensive big with great upside. When healthy he was putting up 16.5/6.5/1 on 52% FG%. He never got it going last year (6.6/4.4 in 18 mpg) but even that is not terrible as a back-up big who if healthy is much more valuable.

He is restricted, but the Nets don't want to give him more than two (due to their pursuit of Lebron in '10, presumably). Not to mention the log jam that is the Nets front line.

If we loose Posey, or don't use the MLE on him, this guy could be a steal if he comes in heathy. Before getting hurt he was probably looking at 8-10 million/yr for 5 years, now in this market he may be had for less than the full MLE. His QO is 2.7 million. Would he take a contract similar to Turiaf's offer from W's (4yr/17)? Maybe he is target for the Clipps now?

W00T!!! this is one of those posts I have just been too lazy to make on my own. Nenad is completely undervalued by the Nets, & they now seem much more enamored w/ all there new, younger bigs. At worst I think Krstic would give you 80% of what Big Zs done these past few years, and the sheer size of him alone would help this team incredibly. I'd have no reservations about dishing him the mle for 3 years. Hell, the dream scenario is Posey takes his raises for 3 years (still doubt it), we pick up Lue or House, and net Krstic w/ the MLE. If it weren't for the fact that perkins is a better fit for KG, I think Krstic could very easily end up having the better career of the two, but if we could have them both locked up, we will be set at the toughest position to fill for years.

Also, his size alone brings some d, but working w/ cliff, thibs on the rotations, and squaring off against KG and Pehk will make him that much tougher.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #7 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:52 pm

Krstic would be a solid acquisition. Rob Swift, if healthy, is another legit 7-footer who can probably contribute more on the defensive end than Krstic can.

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Any thoughts on Othella Harrington? He'd be cheap and you can live with him as an extra frontcourt body.

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Surprised that Gomes doesn't get his own thread- I guess he's seen as a player who puts up decent numbers on bad teams.
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Krstic and Miles or Swift and Gomes would bring a nice mix of offense and defense to the bench.

RickyDizzle · Post #8 » by **RickyDizzle** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 4:57 pm

Quinton Ross is a realistic option in my opinion and I agree he might be the next best option after Posey.

Gomes is a guy that I could seeing us making an offer to only if Minny didnt want to bring him back. Since they made a qualifying offer, I doubt we go into a bidding war for him.

Justin Reed = who cares.... do we really need another 'big guy' that is below 6'9"?

Also just to contribute to the random FA convo here are some other names:

Big Guys:
Eduardo Najera
Theo Ratliff
Nenad Kristic
Primoz Brezec
Chris 'Birdman' Anderson
Desagana Diop
Adonal Foyle
David Harrison
Kwame Brown
Kurt Thomas
Robert Swift

Wing Types:
Azubuike
Matt Barnes
Bonzi Wells
Maurice Evans
Michael Finley
Roger Mason
D West
J.R. Smith
Q Ross

Points:
D. West
Boykins
Sebastian Telfair
Darrell Armstrong
Damon Stoudamire

Looking above there are quite a few guys on the list getting long in the tooth (Theo, Stoudamire, Armstrong, Finley), a bunch of scrubs (Kwame, Harrison, Mo Evans), and some halfway decent guys that still have some years left (Barnes, Azuibuke, Delonte, Smith and Bonzi).

I for one am still all for resigning Posey even if it means full MLE (which many people think is outrageous for a role player), however this thread is not for Posey discussion, its for all the other guys.

Does anyone see anybody they like? I wouldn't mind having one of Barnes, Azuibuke, Ross, plus one of Kwame, Diop, Kristic...thoughts?

-Dizzy

Edit: Diop resigned with Dallas, didnt he? And I guess Najera can be considered a wing type too.

Marley2Hendrix · Post #9 » by **Marley2Hendrix** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 5:17 pm

Eh, Ross is too skinny, doesn't have enough of a consistent shot to spread the d whatsoever, and frankly I'd much rather prefer Nachbar, Barnes, and Evans over him in that over. The one plus going for evans is that I thought he definitely picked it up in the postseason, he saw a considerable increase in minutes, and shot at a great percentage. The only downside is I can't see him playing the 4 in small ball like posey, nachbar, and barnes can.

celticfan42487 · Post #10 » by **celticfan42487** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 5:19 pm

SA is looking to retain Kurt since Splitter won't be coming over and now without Magette out there he will be atop their list.

celticfan42487 · Post #11 » by **celticfan42487** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 5:20 pm

Also I don't think we need a wing player that can play the 4. We have Posey and Baby.. might as well use them.

Tricky Ricky · Post #12 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 5:50 pm

Id love to be able to see Danny's list

P2 · Post #13 » by P2 » Wed Jul 9, 2008 6:06 pm

Barnes, Evans and Ross are the first names that come to my mind.

wbc17 · Post #14 » by **wbc17** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 6:13 pm

Krstic, Kurt Thomas, Elson, and Foyle are great pick up for our bigs from bench.

No one mention Austin Croshere? He's an upgrade over Scal IMO as 3/4 position, and could be sign cheap.

RickyDizzle · Post #15 » by **RickyDizzle** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 6:56 pm

I dont think Croshere is any better than Scal. And even if he is a slight upgrade is a worth the roster spot and his salary for the small upgrade from Scal to Austin... I say no way, he doesnt interest me.

RickyDizzle · Post #16 » by **RickyDizzle** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 6:59 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:Also I don't think we need a wing player that can play the 4. We have Posey and Baby.. might as well use them.

Well I think people that are saying we need a wing that can play the 4 are considering Posey all but gone... we all agree that if we have Posey then we have our big 3 already.

As far as Baby goes, don't let his height fool you, he will NEVER EVER be a capable 3 in the NBA. He is a 5 trapped in the body of a short 4. I predict he never sees time at the three as long as he is a celtic, or at least I hope so...

-Dizzy

EDIT: After reading my post is makes sense that you are saying we have Baby, so just play him at the 4...my bad I misunderstood the first time. But yeah I agree that giving Baby backup minutes at the 4 makes sense, he is just not as mobile or lanky as big game James.

Truthiracy · Post #17 » by **Truthiracy** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 7:03 pm

I wouldn't mind the following players...

Matt Barnes
Bonzi Wells
Maurice Evans

If fact give me Matt Barnes if Posey ends up being a D-Bag.

floyd · Post #18 » by **floyd** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 7:42 pm

Anybody see much of Fred Jones last year on NYK? I liked him back on Indy - shoot the three and take it to the rack with athleticisms, but he had some injuries. Not sure if he's an upgrade over House as far as scoring off the bench but could be a fall back if Eddie jumps ship.

Celtics_85 · Post #19 » by **Celtics_85** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 7:45 pm

If we can't get Posey then I like Barnes also as a second option with TA also being resigned. I still think that TA will really take off as a role player in this league that can fill in as a starter if an injury happens to a starter as he has shown in the past. TA is a pour mans Maggette who can get by anyone and draws contact to get to the line, not to mention he is a very active and good defender. If given the chance next year he will make many forget about Posey if he doesn't resign, and if Posey does resign I still want TA back. If Pruitt can show he can play then, he and TA would make for a pretty quick backcourt., then we could bring in another PG like House or Lue as insuranse. Then we need to bring in at least two big men with Anderson, the kid from the Knicks, along with a vet like Zo or Ratliffe for a year.

MUhoops · Post #20 » by **MUhoops** » Wed Jul 9, 2008 8:28 pm

Kelenna Azubuike might be interesting as a 6'5" 24 year old. Might not be necessary if Giddens or B.Walker are going to make the team, but he can play some D and shoot the 3.
He's restricted, but GS just signed Maggette.

Dorell Wright has a little more size. Not sure what it would take to get him as he's restricted.

You have to think Ainge will be somewhat aggresive with a Plan B if Posey goes elsewhere.