Falk,Bartelstein etc

Red2 · Post #1 » by **Red2** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:35 pm

From where I sit these guys have too much power and allow their egos to get in the way of their clients best interest. How else do you explain Brand's sudden signing with the SIxers when the CLips and Warriors offered more money? It was all about Falk saying F U to the clips .Bartelstien with his BS about not taking an offer back to the celts is the same. All of those agents take offers back to teams to try and get more. Now bartelstein is acting all holier than thou like he has scruples? give me a break. Remember us taking Kedrick brown? Word was we had to take him because of his agent. I forget all the circumstances but there have been numerous situations like that where teams are forced to draft or sign guys just so the agent will allow some other player to talk to a team. It's gotten out of hand and Stern should look into it. The Brand deal smells and DUnleavy to his credit is saying what's what. Falk along with scott boras and a whole bunch of these other agents have no ethics and are perfectly willing to lie and cheat to make themselves look good.

jfs1000d · Post #2 » by **jfs1000d** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:45 pm

They are paid to work for their clients. They are paid by their clients, and they are charged with brining the most amount of money/best spot for their clients.

That is why these guys are paid to do what they do. They are working on behalf of the player to do HIS WILL.

The worst agent ever was Ricky Williams', who went with a rapper. Look where that got him.

I can't believe we are mad because players are trying to make money.

Why would Falk, Batlestein etc. want to look good? They are trying to get the clinet the best spot. An agent can't make a guy sign somewhere. Brand left on his own accord. Chris Wallace mad ethe deal at his own accord.

Agents set it up, final decision comes to the principles in the deal.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #3 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:54 pm

Bartelstein is a **** ****...now he's saying they won't give the C's a chance to match an offer, Posey will just take the first one that comes along to his liking. Posey should haymaker that **** and make his own choice. **** agents...they're the ones who have really ruined sports the last couple of decades. :censored:

bruno sundov · Post #4 » by **bruno sundov** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:30 pm

Falk says once a team gives an offer and they say it's their best you just go out and look for more. That is what he claimed to have done with the clips. He sucks real bad.

cloverleaf · Post #5 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:31 pm

And one day Bartelstein's client Giddens is scheduled for the C's minicamp, the next day he's flown home. Of course they play ridiculous games, but the games often enough pay off for their clients--which is what they're paid for. Some professions reward jerks and stereotypically correct reputations--e.g., used car salesmen--follow. (Though that famous example may actually be changing!)

threrf23 · Post #6 » by **threrf23** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:50 pm

I'm just sick of seeing Bartlestein's name all over the press, often in association with soon to be overpaid mediocre guys.

TheCelticTruth · Post #7 » by **TheCelticTruth** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:02 pm

very often though, the agents focus on their commissions and so go after the most money way more than they go after the best situations. i think very few agents care about their client's happiness and just give them the money talk. otherwise, we wouldnt hear so much of players who are unhappy or want to be traded etc.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #8 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:36 pm

^^^Absolutely agree with the previous 2 posts...it becomes all about the AGENT'S ego, not the player's interests...which is why agents have ruined sports over the last 15-20 yrs...

Rocky5000 · Post #9 » by **Rocky5000** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:52 pm

If I were Turiaf, I'd be pretty happy with my agent.

threrf23 · Post #10 » by **threrf23** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:59 am

TheCelticTruth wrote:very often though, the agents focus on their commissions and so go after the most money way more than they go after the best situations. i think very few agents care about their client's happiness and just give them the money talk. otherwise, we wouldnt hear so much of players who are unhappy or want to be traded etc.

True, but in fairness, players themselves don't care so much about the best situations, or else they would either put more effort into finding an agent that truly would look out for his best interests, or would bother learning just enough to represent themselves.

Post #11 » by **ParticleMan** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:34 pm

an agent's job is to get the player the most money and most options possible. that's their job, don't hate. it's capitalism. it's up to the players to decide what offer to take. they can tell the agent they want less to stay with a certain team. it's still the agent's job to get the player as much money as possible from that team. of course the commission is an incentive, but that's how sales works.

when a player finally accepts an offer, it's the player who does it, not the agent. at the end of the day it's the player's responsibility.

bruno sundov · Post #12 » by **bruno sundov** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:52 am

Rocky5000 wrote:If I were Turiaf, I'd be pretty happy with my agent.

Seriously a guy with a bad heart, who doesn't do anything exceptionally well. Oh yeah, He isn't a 4 or a 5.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #13 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:02 pm

bruno sundov wrote:
Rocky5000 wrote:If I were Turiaf, I'd be pretty happy with my agent.

Seriously a guy with a bad heart, who doesn't do anything exceptionally well. Oh yeah, He isn't a 4 or a 5.

I know...low on talent, big on bank...like ain't fair! :cry:

PTI · Post #14 » by **PTI** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:00 pm

Agent Told Memphis Not To Trade For Knicks' Lee?
Jul 14, 2008 5:53 AM EST

David Lee is nervous that his time in New York may be coming to an end, but he does understand it is a business.

According to the New York Post, after meeting with Coach Mike D'Antoni for lunch, Lee found out the reason his name keeps appearing in rumors is because the Knicks are trying to move Zach Randolph, and Lee would be included to try to entice another team into taking Randolph's large contract off the Knicks' hands.

Before the NBA Draft Lee was close to being dealt to Memphis in a trade which would have landed New York the Grizzlies' first round pick, #5 overall.

Lee did not deny his agent Mark Bartlestein before the draft advised Memphis not to trade for him because Lee would never sign a long-term contract with the Grizzlies.

"I don't know what happened on his end," Lee said. "His job is to represent his players."

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... nicks_lee/

Athanacropolis · Post #15 » by **Athanacropolis** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:48 pm

Jeez Louise, does Mark Bartlestein represent every NBA player? Didn't he represent Mark Suck-Ass Blount as well? And that is his middle name; I looked it up.

bruno sundov · Post #16 » by **bruno sundov** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:07 pm

MyInsatiableOne wrote:
bruno sundov wrote:
Rocky5000 wrote:If I were Turiaf, I'd be pretty happy with my agent.

Seriously a guy with a bad heart, who doesn't do anything exceptionally well. Oh yeah, He isn't a 4 or a 5.

I know...low on talent, big on bank...like ain't fair!

The NBA give out 20 million dollar contracts like they are candy. WTF. What couldn't have I won the gene lottery!!!LOL