Semih Erden should get a lot of PT this year

[GregB]

It looks like Omer Asik the Chicago Bulls second round pick will miss all of next year. Asik is the starting C on the Turkish national team and Erdens Euroleague team. This injury should give Erden a lot more playing time as the starter on both teams. Hopefully, He use the extra PT to step up his game this year.

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/34912/180

[SonicYouth34]

Nice. If POB doesn't work out we get this guy next year

[DelMonte West]

I know most people regard the last pick in the draft as throwaways, but I still like the athletic ability of this legit 7-footer. Sometimes the best thing for a player's development is the opportunity to make the most of extra minutes from an injured starter (kind of like Tony Allen from '06 when Pierce went down).

[underneathtoDJ]

That's very encouraging. Hopefully he takes advantage of this opportunity now that the NBA is within his sights. He could turn out to be a valuable piece off the bench or as trade bait.

[Jammer]

Semih Erden will be the first center off the bench next year, if he comes over.
Davis may not be re-signed, if he is still here at the end of the season.

[GreenMachine]

Jammer... it sure sounds like you are saying that he will be better then POB and Baby from day 1?

I would like to think Erden (and POB and Baby for that matter) could become a good player for us at some point - but to think he will be better on day 1 - on a new team, in a new country, with new rules - you must think this kids really something special?

[Jammer]

Jammer... it sure sounds like you are saying that he will be better then POB and Baby from day 1?

I would like to think Erden (and POB and Baby for that matter) could become a good player for us at some point - but to think he will be better on day 1 - on a new team, in a new country, with new rules - you must think this kids really something special?

Let's see.

Semih Erden is 6' 11", against Glen Davis 6' 7 to 6' 7 1/2".
Erden's arm's aren't stubby like Davis either.

Erden can jump.
Erden already has a shot out to 20 feet or so,
and isn't afraid to bang underneath.

Plus, Erden can run the floor.

Sounds like he's leaps and bounds ahead of the undersized but older Glen Davis.

Now, Patrick O'Bryant, despite being a 2006 #9 pick,
is scrawny, weak on the block, and has yet to prove himself.

Think of it this way.
If the Celtics can't assure Erden of being the backup center
(and paying him accordingly, remember, 2007 #48 pick Marc Gasol
just signed for $3 million in the first year, with 8% raises for the next two years);

there is no way Erden leaves Europe without a contract like that.

So, the Celts will have to PAY Semih Erden,
and if they are gonna PAY him, it means that they're gonna PLAY him.

[GregB]

Jammer... it sure sounds like you are saying that he will be better then POB and Baby from day 1?

I would like to think Erden (and POB and Baby for that matter) could become a good player for us at some point - but to think he will be better on day 1 - on a new team, in a new country, with new rules - you must think this kids really something special?

Let's see.

Semih Erden is 6' 11", against Glen Davis 6' 7 to 6' 7 1/2".
Erden's arm's aren't stubby like Davis either.

Erden can jump.
Erden already has a shot out to 20 feet or so,
and isn't afraid to bang underneath.

Plus, Erden can run the floor.

Sounds like he's leaps and bounds ahead of the undersized but older Glen Davis.

Now, Patrick O'Bryant, despite being a 2006 #9 pick,
is scrawny, weak on the block, and has yet to prove himself.

Think of it this way.
If the Celtics can't assure Erden of being the backup center
(and paying him accordingly, remember, 2007 #48 pick Marc Gasol
just signed for $3 million in the first year, with 8% raises for the next two years);

there is no way Erden leaves Europe without a contract like that.

So, the Celts will have to PAY Semih Erden,
and if they are gonna PAY him, it means that they're gonna PLAY him.

Erden hasnt proven **** in europe compared to Gasol. If Erden has a big year, It might be possible to get that kind of contract. As it stands now he is 500k-1mil type of player.

[GreenMachine]

All good point Jammer.

I just think it will take him some time to adjust. He is even a bigger ??? then POB. A WAY bigger ?.

[celticfan42487]

Please, Erden has to compete and develop to make sure he lives up to the hype of a Potapenko player.

He may be taller then Big baby but I doubt he becomes much more valued.

[Dogen]

Jammer, I'm not down on Erden at all and think he could bbe a contributor on this team in the next two years, but you undervalue davis in comparison:

Baby can pass like very few big men.

Baby has the footwork that is hard to teach.

Baby has a year of experience on a championship team.

He played for a good college program that went to the finals.

He's a big strong body, if a bit vertically challenged.

He's a very intelligent player, and still young.

And he speaks English, too!

[Truthiracy]

Am I really the only one who sees Semih Erden being a non-defensive, soft, Cezary Trybanski clone?

[TheCelticTruth]

Am I really the only one who sees Semih Erden being a non-defensive, soft, Cezary Trybanski clone?

why do you see him that way? thats not the way he is described by scouts or our fellow Cs fans who have seen him play in the euroleagues, or fans of his who came on and posted after the draft, and its not how he looked when i watched him play in the US-Turkey game pre-olympics

[buckner1976]

Jammer... it sure sounds like you are saying that he will be better then POB and Baby from day 1?

I would like to think Erden (and POB and Baby for that matter) could become a good player for us at some point - but to think he will be better on day 1 - on a new team, in a new country, with new rules - you must think this kids really something special?

Let's see.

Semih Erden is 6' 11", against Glen Davis 6' 7 to 6' 7 1/2".
Erden's arm's aren't stubby like Davis either.

Erden can jump.
Erden already has a shot out to 20 feet or so,
and isn't afraid to bang underneath.

Plus, Erden can run the floor.

Sounds like he's leaps and bounds ahead of the undersized but older Glen Davis.

Now, Patrick O'Bryant, despite being a 2006 #9 pick,
is scrawny, weak on the block, and has yet to prove himself.

Think of it this way.
If the Celtics can't assure Erden of being the backup center
(and paying him accordingly, remember, 2007 #48 pick Marc Gasol
just signed for $3 million in the first year, with 8% raises for the next two years);

there is no way Erden leaves Europe without a contract like that.

So, the Celts will have to PAY Semih Erden,
and if they are gonna PAY him, it means that they're gonna PLAY him.

I don't know that I agree about him getting Gasol money but I do see him coming over here next year and I do not see us resigning Davis at all. That could be in small why Danny felt he could re-sign Sam. He can cut or package Davis in a small trade(maybe with Pruitt) because he's the easiest to replace on the team. Scal and Powe can handle the backup PF minutes. Hell if Miles makes the team, he could slide up in a pinch. Next year Erden comes in and takes over. That makes the most sense.

[SeizeCoup]

I too am of the belief that Baby (the fake hustler) won't be in Boston next year, fwiw. I got friends behind the scenes who don't speak very highly of him. Plus, he only signed that 2year contract. Trading him to another team where he might get more pt would help the kid make some more money.

[Dogen]

I too am of the belief that Baby (the fake hustler) won't be in Boston next year, fwiw. I got friends behind the scenes who don't speak very highly of him. Plus, he only signed that 2year contract. Trading him to another team where he might get more pt would help the kid make some more money.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded either. Powe really earned a spot on the roster; now we have POB and Miles if he is healthy, so Davis could end up the odd man out. Maybe Baby for a 2010 2nd rounder.

[GregB]

I too am of the belief that Baby (the fake hustler) won't be in Boston next year, fwiw. I got friends behind the scenes who don't speak very highly of him. Plus, he only signed that 2year contract. Trading him to another team where he might get more pt would help the kid make some more money.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded either. Powe really earned a spot on the roster; now we have POB and Miles if he is healthy, so Davis could end up the odd man out. Maybe Baby for a 2010 2nd rounder.

I think we could prob get 2 2nd rounders for Baby. Maybe Baby and our next two seconds for a first??

[sully00]

These things tend to be kind of confusing but I am pretty sure that Erden just signed a contract that will keep him overseas for 3 more years. Either way I never expect to see this guy in a Celtic uniform. I haven't seen a ton of him but what I have seen he is less of a player than Estaban Batista. I thought he was only 19 but he is 22, while he can still get better he has to.

As for Davis I like his game, he is certainly going to chase the money and is absolutely the kind of guy who could end up overseas. While I think that he would certainly get picked up off of waivers I am not so sure many teams are going to be looking to trade future assets for him.

The one situation that comes to mind is the Rockets, does anyone know what has happened with Landry? That is a team that could get pretty excited about dealing for Baby or Powe as they are very thin upfront and are certainly built to win now.

[GregB]

These things tend to be kind of confusing but I am pretty sure that Erden just signed a contract that will keep him overseas for 3 more years. Either way I never expect to see this guy in a Celtic uniform. I haven't seen a ton of him but what I have seen he is less of a player than Estaban Batista. I thought he was only 19 but he is 22, while he can still get better he has to.

Erdens contract is up after this year. So He is free to sign with us next offseason.

[BillessuR6]

I haven`t heard anything about Erden extending his contract for another 3 year...

I will try to see as many Fenerbahce games this season as I can. Luckily they are in the same group in Euroleague as my team, so I might get to see him play live also...