OT: Election Tuesday

[greenbeans]

Mainly, Vote yes on 2 is the message I wish to deliver(MA residents).

Also, I'm voting Obama. Perhaps I'm one of the blinded masses, perhaps I'm not a fan of elderly folk on the verge of cenility.

McCain! Obama!
Discuss amongst yourselves

[The Corey's]

go obama

at this point, it be a shock if he didn't win.

[celtsfan0254]

Obama's my home boy!

but seriously, yes on question 2!

[GWVan]

verge of cenility

that says it all

[Celtics_Champs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi_c6D8SPcE

Question 2 won't pass. I will vote yes. But I am not going to be shocked when it doesn't pass.

[Berzerker]

verge of cenility

that says it all

[bawstin]

Um, what's question 2?

[Tenbomber]

I've always been an independent voter....prefering to choose the better candidate from each party..... but I'm appalled at how some Republicans can still support George Busch.....

This year I'm voting for Obama...and any other Democrat that is on my ballot!

George Busch's tenure and the last eight years of greedy Republicans filling their own pockets and those of their buddies...has put an end to any thoughts of me ever voting for any Republican candidate ever again....

Call it quilt by association if you want but that's just the way it is...I'm bitter about the Republicans in masse giving away the store during the first four years of Busch's tenure when they controlled all the branches of government using the disguise of the Iraqui war as an excuse to spend our nation's wealth....

If we wanted that jerk Bin Ladden that bad!!... We should have hired a professional hit man or two to secretly seek him out and eliminate him....IMO..the whole deal about that and going to war to rid the world of that baffon Sadam has been one huge song and dance!!!!.....An excuse to fill the pockets of many....we rebuild Iraq's infastructure so some Iraqui terroiorist can just blow it up along with himself and some of our soldiers on his way to meet Allah.....

It's just a crime!....and it cost us the lives of so many good men and women....and the financial future of our country...to protect the oil company's interests...Busch and Cheney took care of their own first and answered questions later... hope they both join Sadam in hell!

Anyone thinking any different should check out Exon's record profits of late in the midst of our counrtry's declining dollar....people are mad as hell and they just won't take it anymore!!!!....

Anyone thinking about debating the issue with me...it's no use...
My mind is made up....period! ...end of conversation!

The "clown circus" will be leaving DC next Tuesday!....they will all be on that bus.... you can count on it!

[ParticleMan]

amen, tenbomber.

ps it looks like 1 out of 15 c's is voting for mccain. lol i wonder who. scal? black males are almost unanimously for obama...
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... _extended/

[Hemingway]

I'm going to vote the same way I do every year, by writing in Antoine Walker!

Seriously though, I'm a big Obama supporter. I think he will be a good thing for our country in a number of ways.

[HighAboveCourtside]

HighAboveCourtside is pleased to announce that he has endorsed John McCain for President.

[Celtics_Champs]

Um, what's question 2?

Decriminalizing Pot

ps it looks like 1 out of 15 c's is voting for mccain. lol i wonder who. scal? black males are almost unanimously for obama...
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... _extended/

definitly Scal

[TheCelticTruth]

i would prefer not to be a victim of the bipartisan system, but since the GOP becomes more and more defined by the religious right and less a political party i find myself gravitating ever more towards the democrats. great boston globe article today BTW on the rightward shift of the GOP ("Last days for the 'Rockefellers'" Moderate GOP tradition fades by Mark Arsenault). why is is that being moderate and conservative on some things and liberal on others is a problem? it used to be good for the country, maybe that is why we are where we are now.

as for our candidates, if you asked me in 2001 if i would vote for barack obama or john mccain in 2008 i wouldve proudly announced a mccain vote, saying i believed in the future potential of a bright young mr obama, but john mccain was the type of american i admired and had proven he could make an independent decision based on his heart and mind, not partisan politics... however, in my mind john mccain has become the ultimate poser. once 9/11 happened, mccain seemed to feel as though he could not win the nomination from bush, and would instead become his bitch so that he could win the nomination in 2008. so the john mccain of the past six/seven years has been nothing but a fake to me based on who he was previously, and he has been worse the further this campaign has gone.

i put integrity and honesty first in my judgement of others, because it is not my place to judge others beliefs, whether i agree or not, and mccain has consistently undermined his own credibility to the point that i expect his presidency to be a larger failure than bush's if he wins: if he goes back to being the old mccain i liked, the GOP will feel betrayed, if he stays the way he is now, all the democrats are going to consider him a poser and he will be a lame duck from the beginning, and if he does something else, he will prove that he has no identity and is just power hungry and will pretend to be whoever we want him to, none of which is truly himself, and that is not what a leader is made of.

and if i wasnt feeling this way already, rolling stone (which is one of the few journalistic institutions that seems to have kept from deciding to be liberal or conservative, just open minded moderacy) has had some scary articles on mccains character recently.

i dont have much to part with, but i am so concerned by mccains character at this point i actually gave money to obama.

as for the questions (in MA):
- im not sure on #1, i think im going yes
- i am definitely voting yes on 2, with all the addicictions americans are developing to prescriptions,
especially pain killers, our marijuana policy is more hypocritical and backward than ever. i dont
think all people can handle drugs, but just like guns dont kill people, those with drug problems
have only themselves and lack of self control to blame, and i know many people who have been
able to benefit from stress relief or pain relief with marijuana, or kick their alcoholism for a more
easily controllable habit. drugs should be legal and people should be responsible for their own
actions. plus we spend so much money on the legal system for people who were involved with
nothing more than marijuana. prison should be reserved for those who are violent or abusive, those
truly detrimental to society. people who are self destructive should be the responsibility of the tax
payer
- im pretty sure im going to vote no on question 3...its not like greyhounds are mistreated for the
most part, and what is more miserable than a greyhound who cant run
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[BeanTownBrawler]

I'm voting for McCain and yes to question 2, I wonder if I'm the only person to put down that combo lol

[Rocky5000]

Already voted last week for Obama.

[elrod enchilada]

Obama.

I don't write about politics on this board, but I do so quite a bit in my "day job." I want to see the Republicans lose badly and see trickle-down economics and Rovian politics discredited as much as possible.

A McCain-Palin victory would be the second darkest day imaginable for our nation, and the next four years would make the last eight years look like a day at the beach. Endless wars and Herbert Hoover economics.

The darkest day imaginable? That's easy. The day President McCain dies. My friends who work on cancer research do not like his chances. After hearing Palin's analysis of the First Amendment yesterday, it is clear she not only does not understand or appreciate our governing system, she holds it in contempt. She makes W Bush look like a combination of Lincoln and Jefferson. The thought of her as president is ....

Let's not go there.

[chakdaddy]

Elrod, I'm surprised to hear that Palin hasn't accused Obama of palling around with *you* as another "dangerous professor" which she likes to lump in with terrorists!

Anyway obviously I agree with your post.

I bet it's not Scal, he doesn't seem like that kind of guy. Probably someone else whose greed trumps his conscience (one of two reasons IMO that people vote Republican, the other just being dumb/racist/etc). Like Arenas seems to be. I read an article about how the Washington Redskins were quite split about who to vote for, without the players' race being much of a factor.

Of course, my mom mentioned how in college they measured test scores and stuff and confirmed their suspicions that basketball players are smarter than football...

[campybatman]

Here's an informative site for those of you who are clueless or don't really follow politics like me. The only things I understand at this point heading into next week are voting for a president and vice president and voting either "yes" or "no" on Questions 1, 2 and 3. If anything else appears on the ballot, I'm stuck... This feels like a final exam in some ways.

One thing I'll say: Hilary and Obama have made things the most interesting in politics since I don't know when.


http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ELE/eleidx.htm

[Gator Mike]

I'm voting for McCain and yes to question 2, I wonder if I'm the only person to put down that combo lol

Nope.

I just don't see how a tax increase on the those making upwards of $200,000/year won't lead to higher unemployment rates, higher costs for goods and services, a further slowdown in the housing market, etc.

[threrf23]

Obama is by far he best option here, if nothing else because he makes the best frontman. I found it funny when people used to speak up Hillary on the basis that she was responsible for Bill's success and that Bill was just a frontman, because they don't understand that one of the President's biggest and most important responsibilities is to be a good frontman. Decisions - not that the President doesn't have influence - but they are often made on the basis of classified intelligence and input from cabinet members and if a President is determined to do something truly dangerous enough you can be rest assured somebody behind the scenes - i.e. the real leaders - will have him assassinated. But, its the President who is called on to stay calm and collected in the face of pressure to reassure the public and the world regarding national affairs, and to keep everyone on your side so that things can get accomplished without opposition from special interests and whoever else.

I don't buy for a moment that anyone but Obama ever had much of any shot at this election - I think thats largely a creation by the media who needs things to report about and also the product of politicians and pundits who on some level have been jealous of Obama's quick rise. He's a truly exceptional politician (i.e. front man) and knows who to align himself with, a Democrat, has had appeal worldwide, he's young, and is a white-acting and appearing minority figure. And this is an election where a ton of our population wanted something "different" in the White House, wanted something "new" in the White House, wanted an excuse to vote Democrat, and was sick of reading about how the rest of the world hated us. Plus, initially going up against Hillary, he now looks like less of a minority, so its even more like an opportunity for people to show that they can vote for a black guy without feeling like they're really voting for a black guy. He's really the perfect candidate (not to say he wouldn't still be a good candidate in another election - I'll add that he comes off as honest, and appears to know his limits).

Re: Palin - I actually think the Republican party secretly decided that they didn't have much of a shot at beating Obama, and decided to take the opportunity to show their party that they were willing to nominate a young, dynamic, and female/minority candidate. On some level I think she's just being used like a lame duck coach...the sad thing is a lot of the Republican party buys into her...but the things our population buys into in general is just kinda sad, anyway.

Anyways, its imperative that Bush's successor is not just a decent President, but a truly good one. With the high hopes our country and the World have for his successor, if expectations are not met, there will be backlash. Perhaps its against my better judgement to admit it, but for this reason I voted for Bush in the last election and don't regret it. Especially based on how weak (politically) his [ETA Kerry's] campaign was in '04, he was going to be in over his head in the White House. Bush may have done damage to our country's reputation over the past four years, but he had already done damage before that, and and any additional damage done was not going to be permanent since it was going to be attributed to him and not as much the country as a whole. With Kerry, even if he would have done less damage, any damage done would have been more permanent. With Obama, there won't be backlash.

re: tax increases for the rich...I don't see how it will cause job loss and such, and if it does that will be temporary. I used to believe that it was not fair to increase taxes (percentage wise) based on higher income, but have since realized that it is much much easier to make money once you already have it. This country is built on opportunity; if you consider the potential future value of money, those making more than $200k, and particularly those making much more than it, are making a bit more money than they appear to be making on paper.

I don't often talk about politica, so it felt good to get that all out of my system.