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Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:21 am
by rambo_ortega
Successful Trade Scenario
Trade ID #4817864

Boston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.6 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and +0.7 apg.

Incoming Players
Calvin Booth
6-11 C from Penn State
No games yet played in 2008-2009
Ryan Gomes
6-7 SF from Providence
8.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Bill Walker
6-6 SF from Kansas State
1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.8 minutes
Glen Davis
6-8 C from LSU
3.6 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 16.1 minutes
Brian Scalabrine
6-9 PF from USC
0.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 6.3 minutes

Celts get that big SF who will make the bench better and a lengthy C.

Perk/POB/Booth
KG/powe/gomes
P2/Gomes/Giddens
Allen/TA
Rondo/house/pruitt

Minnesota Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.6 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and -0.7 apg.

Incoming Players
Bill Walker
6-6 SF from Kansas State
1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.8 minutes
Glen Davis
6-8 C from LSU
3.6 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 16.1 minutes
Brian Scalabrine
6-9 PF from USC
0.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 6.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Calvin Booth
6-11 C from Penn State
No games yet played in 2008-2009
Ryan Gomes
6-7 SF from Providence
8.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.3 minutes

They get another young big who can score, a prospect and a good character guy.

Al/davis/collins
love/smith/madsen
brewer/carney/scal
miller/mccants/walker
foye/telfair/ollie

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:40 am
by Al-Haqq
I like Walker.

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:53 am
by canman1971
Can we leave our past players in the past?

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:56 am
by rambo_ortega
gomes will be a big help to this team. he is a long sf who can defend and shoot.

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:03 am
by canman1971
^^^Kind of like he did on the team en route to a 24 win season? Let it go.

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:21 am
by Maple Green
No Thanks... we can move on without such trade

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:05 am
by TheSheriff
Minn wouldn't do it

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:13 am
by Red2
not bad but booth is a stiff and as much as like Gomes he doesn't make us any bigger. I agree though that we're going to have to give up tony, leon or baby if we want to get anything of value back. i'd like to see what walker can do before we give up on him. we've given up too early on good young players in the past. scal of course can go at any time with my blessing and in fct I would fly to Boston just to drive him to the airport if that would help

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:32 am
by GregB
Thats a great trade for Boston. Ryan Gomes gives us exactly what we need. A 3/4 game with ability to shoot the outside shot. Plus, Gomes can really do a lot more offensively. Not quite the defender Posey was. But I think he could fit in within the team defense. I know its early in the year. But Tony Allen is such a hot and cold player. We need another guy off the bench who can pick up the slack on TA's bad nights. Not sure that Minn wants to trade Gomes. But they really do have a lot of wing depth.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:37 pm
by cfan79
As much as I like Gomes I wouldn't do this trade. This trade would help us this season, but it could hurt us in the long run. Bill Walker looks like he could be really special and Baby works his big ass off whenever he's on the floor.

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:40 pm
by Hemingway
Thoughts on the trade proposal:

1. If it was ever offered, I think we would take it. Gomes is the best player in the trade and we open a roster spot which might save us a trade or cut later.

2. I think Minny values Gomes to much.

3. It would be great to have Gomes back though.

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:13 pm
by ryaningf
No way. What we gain in Gomes doesn't offset what Baby brings at backup PF and C. Our defense would be weakened at 3 and 5 and we'd only have a marginal increase in offense. Booth is non-factor. And Walker will end up being the best player of the bunch too. Another bad deal dreamt up in a vacuum.

Do we really need another outside shooter? Or do Eddie House (25% from 3) and Ray Allen (31% from 3) just need to start shooting better? Or maybe we should be giving minutes to Pruitt, who can actually run an offense and hit threes (as opposed to House who only hits threes...occasionally at that).

Re: Trade with Minny

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:50 pm
by Prophet_C
No

I know Walker may not get much burn this year but I really think he's going to be a keeper and eventually make a bigger impact than Gomes ever has/will.