Demetris Nichols

return2glory · Post #1 » by **return2glory** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:26 pm

Too bad we don't have any roster spots because Demetris Nichols is available now. He is a 6'8 SF that has great range on his jump shot. Both Walker and Giddens can't really shoot outside of 18-20 feet. IMO, Demetris Nichols would fit our team well because he bring offense to a team that is struggling in that area.

SonicYouth34 · Post #2 » by **SonicYouth34** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:15 pm

Just like Walker and Giddens he'd get no PT. I like Nichols, but we have no room cause we need to carry 4 pg's.

greenbeans · Post #3 » by **greenbeans** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:30 pm

Our 15th man situation is all set currently. no thanks.

Jammer · Post #4 » by **Jammer** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:08 am

Demetris Nichols is an interesting potential addition as
a 3 point shooting SF for the second unit.

If the Celtics had a roster spot, they would probably sign him.

As far as making a spot,

other than waiving Sam Cassell,

about the only thing they would do is

trade Walker or Giddens to free a spot up.

They'd gain a 3 point shooter in exchange for an athletic wing.

Since Walker and Giddens are redundant with Tony Allen,

I'd free up a spot by trading one of them.

Unfortunately, the Celtics probably won't get fair value

until the draft, which is rumored to be weak,

compared to last year's super strong one

(McHale sold his #34 pick (Mario Chalmers) to Miami last year for

$2 Million cash +
the WORST TWO OF Miami, Philadelphia and Indiana's 2009 second round picks.)

Gomes3PC · Post #5 » by **Gomes3PC** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:06 am

I could see Nichols playing a bit of a Posey role if he could ever stick somewhere. At 6-8 with good range he can create some matchup problems. Not much of a dribbler though and he is rail thin, so I don't think he can play much SG and would need to bulk up to play PF unless he's in a D'Antoni-like offense.

Right now though, he's not a fit for the Celtics. We've got too many talented guys on the roster as it is; Darius Miles is significantly better than Nichols and we had to let him go. Nichols should latch on somewhere, but sometimes guys slip through the cracks inexplicably.

return2glory · Post #6 » by **return2glory** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:36 am

Gomes3PC wrote:I could see Nichols playing a bit of a Posey role if he could ever stick somewhere. At 6-8 with good range he can create some matchup problems. Not much of a dribbler though and he is rail thin, so I don't think he can play much SG and would need to bulk up to play PF unless he's in a D'Antoni-like offense.

Right now though, he's not a fit for the Celtics. We've got too many talented guys on the roster as it is; Darius Miles is significantly better than Nichols and we had to let him go. Nichols should latch on somewhere, but sometimes guys slip through the cracks inexplicably.

I agree with the Posey thing a little but I diagree that he wouldn 't be a good fit. His outside shooting would help this team. Other than Pierce, he don't have anyone over 6'6 that is a good 3 point shooter.

Post #7 » by **sully00** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:54 am

The man has scored 17 points in 16 games over two seasons I wish him the best but somehow I don't think he is the missing piece for this team.

rambo_ortega · Post #8 » by **rambo_ortega** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:05 am

I was just about to make a thread about him. I've strongly believed that he is a nice young prospect to fill in a somewhat similar role to posey for us. He's 6'8, long, athletic, a very good shooter and has the tools to be a good defender given a perfect environment like boston. He didn't get any pt in chicago because they have guys like nocioni,deng,tt,thabo playing his position. Those players are already set in the rotation so nichols will really be left out.

I can see him playing like wilson chandler of the knicks and rasual butler. He hails from boston and we could get him by waiving cassell and just make him a coach or i think we have the roster space already after assigning giddens to the nbdl. We will get him really cheap with no risk so why not get him or make him sign an unguaranteed deal so that we could test him. I'd be disappointed if we don't get him actually.

Post #9 » by **sully00** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:58 am

The reason the Bulls had him is his 3pt shooting, because they are pretty limited in that area and he coudln't get any burn, that is likely because he can't play any defense and isn't really athletic enough to play in the NBA. At the 'Cuse he was also more of a scorer than a shooter and he may lack the ability to knock down shots off the bench as well as NBA 3 pt range.

We would have to waive someone with a guaranteed contract to sign him.

Jammer · Post #10 » by **Jammer** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:44 am

sully00 wrote:The man has scored 17 points in 16 games over two seasons I wish him the best but somehow I don't think he is the missing piece for this team.

I always believed that Matt Barnes would be an NBA rotation player, even though he was waived like 5 times and played in the CBA and other D-League predecessor.

Well, Matt Barnes is starting for the Phoenix Suns, signed as a free agent over the summer.

Nichols can shoot the 3. One of these days/years, he gonna take an NBA team out by hitting the last shot. Just hope it's not the Celtics.

rambo_ortega · Post #11 » by **rambo_ortega** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:58 am

^i agree, look at matt barnes whom we should've got. he's starting for the suns and you have any idea how much he's getting paid? really cheap man! right now, nichols is a low risk big reward catch especially if no one plays back up sf for us except scal.

Post #12 » by **sully00** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:13 pm

You citing the perfect example of what I am talking about. If you play Matt Barnes 20-25 mpg and give him 9-10 shots a game he can give you average production for his position, and he is a negative defensively at a position stacked with superstars. In his NBA career he has been totally unproductive in a bench role mostly because his best talent is scoring the ball when he is relatively unguarded. I think at best Nichols is in the same situation he just has another year or two to get there.

What you are talking about doing is giving Tony Allen's mins or Leon Powe's mins to either of these guys. While Tony is struggling with his shot he is killing teams defensively, perhaps the best defensive player in the NBA with a rating of 98 and an opponent PER of 7.5. I don't think either of these guys play PF on the defensive end at all were Leon is as effective at both ends as you can be.

I would love to replace Posey but you don't replace him with a tall 3pt shooter who is a zero on the defensive end at SF.

The player this team needs to upgrade is Eddie House. He isn't terrible or anthing just that we need a guy who can handle the ball and take it to the hole as well as shoot the 3 in that spot. Which is why they will even think about bringing in a guy like Marbury.

Another guy I would like to see end up here if he is still alive is old friend Raef LaFrentz. He has little more size than Baby, same passing game as well as the ability to knock down 3's. Not much defensively but can commit 6 fouls.

Post #13 » by **Slartibartfast** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:18 pm

Raef is not quite alive Sully. He managed a little over 600 minutes since he left us two years ago. He's knocked down a whopping 2 out of 27 3pters in that time. Guy's had so many surgeries and game atrophy, I doubt he'd bring anything more to the table than Tom Gugliotta did for us. If he can still play passable D and hit the 3, he hasn't shown it.

Our answers are unlikely to come from free agency unless Dice comes to us. We don't need depth at the end of the bench, we need it up front.

humblebum · Post #14 » by **humblebum** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:37 pm

I agree with the no-defense theory on Nichols. He might find a place somewhere but I highly doubt it will be here where he has to win minutes over Tony Allen who is a terror on the defensive end, though sometimes he's also a terror on offense, not in a good way though. Still, I believe it would be extremely wise to invest time and energy in TA right now because as his confidence grows so does his impact on the game. If Doc can slowly build TA up by the end of the season and come playoff time he's going to be a really difficult player to contain.

*After watching Flip Murray for Atlanta I really wish we could have nabbed him to fill Eddie's role. Between he and TA would have have given teams straight fits off the bench in the backcourt.

celticfan42487 · Post #15 » by **celticfan42487** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:43 pm

we really did dissapoint in the free agency market.

So many other SFs and at least one other Center that signed for minuimn.

We should of at least got Barnes for a little extra compensation then min. Maybe a couple years and a couple mil IF he was worried about playing time. Then again though he's got a better shot signing with us then he did with PHNX.

Post #16 » by **sully00** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:20 pm

The problem with Flip is that shot comes and goes he is 41% shooter for a reason. In that sense he is a lot like Eddie in that you love Eddie when his 3 ball is falling when it isn't you are like why is he on the team never mind playing. If Flip is shooting 41% and we have seem go what 6/7 that means there are plenty of 0/7 too.

Yeah I know Raef isn't coming back but that is the type of weapon we could use to replace some of what Posey gave this team offensively. Of course if someone could convince that Rockets that they need to trade us Shane Battier that would do nicely as well.