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I don't want to read too much into this but the first players that come to my mind while reading this are Garnett and Perkins.

They are also, however, furthering their image around the league as the chattiest team on the circuit. And word is the NBA office does, indeed, have the C’s in their sightline.

According to one source, the steady stream of trash talk is getting a bit unseemly to some.

“There have been teams that have talked a lot of (expletive), but usually those are the bad teams,” he said. “And this is different from the stuff Larry (Bird) used to do. This is overt trash talking, and really I think they can take that stuff too far sometimes. Forget about the fact it doesn’t look good from the defending champions, I think it takes away from them.”

Coach Doc Rivers said last week that he doesn’t want to in any way douse his team’s competitive fire, and he has a very good point there. But he also noted that he’d like his players to pick their spots a little better.

In the latter case, he was referring mainly to chatter with referees, and this is the issue that most could impact the Celtics in a critical situation. The bottom line is that the officials are getting their fill of the Bostonian complaints.

Said one ref last week, “Someone needs to explain to those guys that not every call we make is wrong.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bask ... position=3

@19-2..... don't change a damned thing.

bonsaiflipflops wrote:I don't want to read too much into this but the first players that come to my mind while reading this are Garnett and Perkins.

They are also, however, furthering their image around the league as the chattiest team on the circuit. And word is the NBA office does, indeed, have the C’s in their sightline.

According to one source, the steady stream of trash talk is getting a bit unseemly to some.

“There have been teams that have talked a lot of (expletive), but usually those are the bad teams,” he said. “And this is different from the stuff Larry (Bird) used to do. This is overt trash talking, and really I think they can take that stuff too far sometimes. Forget about the fact it doesn’t look good from the defending champions, I think it takes away from them.”

Coach Doc Rivers said last week that he doesn’t want to in any way douse his team’s competitive fire, and he has a very good point there. But he also noted that he’d like his players to pick their spots a little better.

In the latter case, he was referring mainly to chatter with referees, and this is the issue that most could impact the Celtics in a critical situation. The bottom line is that the officials are getting their fill of the Bostonian complaints.

Said one ref last week, “Someone needs to explain to those guys that not every call we make is wrong.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bask ... position=3

Personally, I think the refs should keep their mouths shut. They are by far the worst officials of any major sport. Now, whether the league office is responsible for that, I don't know, but I would love the refs to pick up a basketball dictionary and read up on the following: traveling and palming.

The ref's should be fined for opening his or her pie hole to the press which is against league rules.

bonsaiflipflops wrote:I don't want to read too much into this but the first players that come to my mind while reading this are Garnett and Perkins.

Pierce is a trash talker too.

Its a game, if they can't take it maybe they shouldn't be on the floor.

I'm irked by the League's excessive anti-Boston bias. Go check out the Spurs after they won, or Detroit, and don't tell me they weren't giving the refs any more crap than we do. The funny thing is, San Antonio's or Detroit's trash talk was taken as examples of their 'champion's heart.' Yet when we do it's disrespectful. You know what's disrespectful? Having the league best defense two years running, yet being ranked 7th in the League in fouls per game. We haven't gotten one break or gained a tad of respect since we won it all. That's something to be really irked about.

Joyeuse wrote:

bonsaiflipflops wrote:I don't want to read too much into this but the first players that come to my mind while reading this are Garnett and Perkins.

Pierce is a trash talker too.

And? I never said anyone else on the Celtics don't... I said, "...the first players that come to my mind while reading this are Garnett and Perkins."

I'm not disputing that, but Pierce talks a ton of trash; I would put him up there with those two, making them the three players most likely to talk trash. I don't see Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo as huge trash talkers, though I guess I'm not on the court playing against them to find out.

Too Bad. They should have handled the Detroit Bad Boys in 80's. The kids looked up at them. David Stern should be proud of himself.

GreenGrizz wrote:Too Bad. They should have handled the Detroit Bad Boys in 80's. The kids looked up at them. David Stern should be proud of himself.

Agreed. Wah Wah by the refs and the rest of the league. Of course, again, the league will screw the C's and make an example of them...

We're getting an increasingly boring league year after year, where players aren't allowed to stick up for their teammates, no one is allowed to show emotion on the court or have personalities, and every team will be boring like the Spurs.

Athanacropolis wrote:We're getting an increasingly boring league year after year, where players aren't allowed to stick up for their teammates, no one is allowed to show emotion on the court or have personalities, and every team will be boring like the Spurs.

The NBA would go the way of the NHL if this ever happened...

MyInsatiableOne wrote:

Athanacropolis wrote:We're getting an increasingly boring league year after year, where players aren't allowed to stick up for their teammates, no one is allowed to show emotion on the court or have personalities, and every team will be boring like the Spurs.

The NBA would go the way of the NHL if this ever happened...

Predator avatar, and Total Recall quote...I love it!

Yeah, not to badmouth the Spurs, that wasn't fair. But you understand my point. Fans like quirky players with personality. We like Wilt, we like Magic, we like Bird, we like 'Nique, we liked Jordan, we liked McHale, we liked Daryl Dawkins, Moses Malone, Ric Barry, Allen Iverson, Bill Russell, all the greats who are very unique. The same way we like KG! Let the players be intense--it's a competition, for God's sake.

Perk is a little out of hand with the never having committed a foul reaction, especially since God love him he is a hatchet man, and I think that this leads to some of the less than deserving techs. It isn't for what he said in that particular moment but the cumulative effect of his reactions.

KG has been given a long rope for all the **** he talks on the court especially the foul language. I think that now that it is on National TV once a week and coming with a 20 point beat down every night people are starting to get a little pissed. Before he was the guy who tried harder than anyone else so when he gave you a little extra you could deal with it because of the respect but when your dead and buried half way through the 3rd I imagine enough is enough.

I also have to think that two other elements that aren't being discussed play into it. That would be the Garden and most of all crazy Uncle Tommy. The sound made in a basketball gym in the Northeast when a questionable call is made against the home team in general has you covering the kids ears and that is ten fold when lead by Tommy in a sold out Garden.

I can see where it could get old quick. I also think that if some of these refs would spend as much time looking at the tape of the **** calls they made, as they do on player reactions to those **** calls, the league would be a lot better.

[quote="sully00"]Perk is a little out of hand with the never having committed a foul reaction, especially since God love him he is a hatchet man, and I think that this leads to some of the less than deserving techs. It isn't for what he said in that particular moment but the cumulative effect of his reactions.

KG has been given a long rope for all the **** he talks on the court especially the foul language. I think that now that it is on National TV once a week and coming with a 20 point beat down every night people are starting to get a little pissed. Before he was the guy who tried harder than anyone else so when he gave you a little extra you could deal with it because of the respect but when your dead and buried half way through the 3rd I imagine enough is enough.

I also have to think that two other elements that aren't being discussed play into it. That would be the Garden and most of all crazy Uncle Tommy. The sound made in a basketball gym in the Northeast when a questionable call is made against the home team in general has you covering the kids ears and that is ten fold when lead by Tommy in a sold out Garden.

I can see where it could get old quick. I also think that if some of these refs would spend as much time looking at the tape of the **** calls they made, as they do on player reactions to those **** calls, the league would be a lot better.[/quote]

You raise a LOT of good points, Sully, like always, your last paragraph in particular.

I still feel, though, that if the league is irked by trash talking, tough luck. Does this mean that, say, when the Wizards are good, Arenas will get T'd up just because he's on national television a lot? I hope not....

Three flat-out horrifically blown calls last night were Ray's block, Tony's steal, and Perk getting the layup off before the shot clock at the end (which would have won it for us in regulation). Plus them putting on HALF of the correct amount of time back on the clock at the end of a quarter. I checked all 3 multiple times by DVR in slow-mo, and each one was flat-out blown...

NBA, why not work on your **** **** refs and not worry about some trash-talk on the court?

I am trying to remember the game last week there was 9 techs, 9. It would see that the refs think they can T their way back to dignity after the Donaghy scandal instead of facing the fact that competency is the only thing that is going to fix the perception of them.

"We suck at our jobs because the players complain too much" I don't think so.

I love it.

It creates a sense of unity...us against them. It creates a team identity/personality...which is a variety of intensity. It creates a swagger...and confidence, even if cocky.

These traits exist on every championship team, in every sport, at every level.

All I would tell the celts is keep taling. Just a little less to the refs.