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Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:35 pm
by billfromBoston
...he is the re-incarnation of Walter McCarty...his charm and antics endear him to the fanbase even while his decision making on the court leaves 4-5 plays on the court every night...

The guy cannot finish inside consistently, nor can he play the post - hence our tedious observation of him practicing his jumper in games, (at a 30% clip.) The guy still picks up silly fouls, as do Powe and Perk on occasion, but he is by far the most frequent at it.

But his ability to make a few memorable plays - the block, tough O-board, and 1 - completely masks the number of poor decisions he makes...there has been mass speculation about who will stick between Powe and Davis and whom is better long-term for this team...if you can't see how ridiculous this guy is in terms of decision making and overall ability you are delusional...

He is being showcased for other teams - there is no way his play has consistently earned him minutes...the minute another big is brought in, this kid's minutes are going away quick... :evil:

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:40 pm
by TheOGJabroni
I hope you are right. I liked him at LSU and I liked how the C's drafted him. And I will like the day the C's trade him away.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:51 pm
by Celtics_Champs
I really liked grabbing this guy in the trade for ray.

I really liked him last year.

but it is time to move on from the Big baby experience.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:01 pm
by Jammer
bfb:

It was clearly evident last season,
if you watched how he scored,
and DID NOT SCORE,
around the basket.

His limitations were crystal.

That was one of the reasons I tried to trade him so hard.

I thought Danny was bringing in somebody 6' 10" or greater, though,
that wasn't a project like Patrick O'Bryant.

O'Bryant may be very good during the 2011 season,
if he spends time in the weight room and practices fundamentals,
but he probably won't help this season or next season.

The two guys I most want to see traded (on the active 12)
are Davis and Scalabrine.

Of course Giddens or Pruitt would have to be added to either one
to make a deal possible.

Robert Swift, anyone???

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:03 pm
by TheOGJabroni
If we can't get a vet. like PJ or Joe Smith, I'm with you in trading for Robert Swift since Danny has always wanted this guy.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:06 pm
by billfromBoston
His only saving grace is the fleeting notion that if he got into prime condition that he'd be able to reach his potential - this IS NOT going to happen, ever...

Davis will eventually be a modest to average set shooter, which will keep him in the league, but he is atrocious as a PF, having no perimeter defensive skills, and he can't play inside beyond grabbing offensive rebounds.

He is so poor a reading situations and making the right decision when the ball comes into his hands, its a wonder that anyone would wait around for him to figure it out relative to his skill set...its not worth the effort.

I know there are a lot of "Baby" fans out there and I was one of them when we got him...but I have seen enough to know that if any PF has a future on this team behind KG its Powe...Davis is a center only and will never be a 2nd string one in his career...if he loses 30lbs then maybe he becomes a back up PF, but right now his good play out weighs his bad maybe 1/4 of the time...the fact that he has received so much PT and been allowed to play through innumerable poor decisions only further strengthens my conviction that he is being showcased for trade...Powe has certainly had his own struggles, but no where near the volume of them that Davis is magically being allowed to play through...

...terrible, terrible, time watching this guy run around and ultimately accomplish very little...

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:18 pm
by BillessuR6
I can`t stand him! My least favourite player on the team. An absolute disaster!

We need to get rid of him because I am going to lose my mind if I see another jumpshot from this guy!

If he is in rotation come playoff time we won`t win a ring. He just manages to do the most stupid things on the court I have ever seen!

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:24 pm
by Jammer
How dare Le Grande Burger, or Big Burger,
take 12 shots against the Raptors.

Davis certainly isn't short of arrogance.

He's the second worst shooter on the team (Gabe Pruitt is worse),
but he cranks up 12 shots.

Arrogance, not humility,
is what Davis must live off.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:26 pm
by sunshinekids99
To be honest I didn't think Davis was forcing shots. He's just not making anything. He has zero lift and he worries about contact instead of making the shot. He could have been much worse, he got bailed out a few times with foul calls.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:27 pm
by return2glory
billfromBoston wrote:...He is being showcased for other teams - there is no way his play has consistently earned him minutes...the minute another big is brought in, this kid's minutes are going away quick... :evil:


If he is being showcased, then after this game, no one will want him.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:31 pm
by Cyclical
I totally agree BFB. His charm and 1 nice play per game sometimes gives an illusion that he's actually contributing positively. I don't by the "showcasing" argument though. If a player doesn't play well whe he gets court time then it's to the detriment of the GM who's trying to showcase him. I think they're trying to get a final assesment of what they can get from the guy. Turns out it's not much. They already know they like Powe.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:24 pm
by jP3000
He had a good game with 11rbs and 6 pts in 30min. off the bench, Baby can be productive and has shown that he can play D against bigger players. He just can't shoot! He should be banned from anything but taking layups and put backs, kind of like Perk the last two years

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:47 pm
by Red2
donny marshall is 100 % right- Glenn needs to focus on scoring the basket first instead of focusing on drawing contact. part of his problem is that he lacks height and he's not a leaper so he' prone to having his shot blocked. As a result he double pumps, hangs in the air and tries to draw contact instead of just going for the easy layup when it's there.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:59 pm
by GuyClinch
BFB has never been more right then he is now. I been saying the same things about Davis since he got into the league. We really need a backup center so we can bump him out of the rotation.. He is much like McCarty where his "lovable" persona blinds fans to his awful play..

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:03 pm
by threrf23
What I don't get though, is this...

The only reason he is inefficient, is because of his newfound focus on taking jump shots.

Compared to last season, TOs are down (despite playing away from the basket more), FT% is up, ability to hit a jump shot when we have no other option is up, he still hustles on the offensive glass, he is still a relatively solid defender down low, he is finishing at a slightly lower quantity around the rim, yet last season 20% more of his shots were assisted rather than self created.

Yet, if anyone proposes that he shoots fewer jump shots, or limits himself to assisted baskets under the rim, the consensus here is...

we need him to develop a jump shot and this and that before the games matter more. Thats at least what consensus was earlier in the season.

Its like, you can't have it both ways. Either he should be playing to his strengths to help the team win and what not, or we shouldn't be concerned with results just yet in hopes that he will improve his all around game.

I respectfully disagree that its not a stupid decision to be showcasing him right now. He might not be an all star (understatement) but he is much better than it currently appears (IMO).

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:04 pm
by GoGoCeltics
Is it bad that I've actually like Scal more than Baby recently? BBD just looks terrible out there. I know POB hasn't been too good, but please, PLEASE give him a chance when A) Perk is out B) Scal fouls out in 25 mins and C) BBD shoots 1-12. At that point, POB should be getting some minutes.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:55 am
by ParticleMan
I just wonder how it is Baby gets 30 min and Powe gets 9. In a game where we're lacking muscle with Perk out. ugh.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:53 am
by Bad-Thoma
A little harsh BFB, but unfortunately only a little IMO. I'd rather have Walter (circa 2001) on the team, he at least had that unteachable skill called height. Glen is likeable and is a hustle guy, hopefully he has a future somewhere in the league, preferably somewhere else.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:06 am
by Zin5
I just want to know what's happened since last season. It looks like he's regressed. He at least had a number of big games for us through all of last year, played some pretty solid D, and looked like a steal. Now he's looking like a complete scrub. I don't remember any of use being even nearly this upset with him last year.

Re: Wow is Glen Davis inefficient...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:49 am
by sully00
He is just awful offensively right now and it would probably be somewhat humorous if everyone else wasn't doing the same thing as well. He is doing a decent job on the glass and still holds his own defensively but he has got to start putting the ball in the basket. At least he is taking the shots he supposed to if that is anything. I have always been a fan but he is pretty ridiculous at the moment.