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Do you believe we will sign Marbury ?? 

Post#1 » by DieselCeltic » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:50 pm

What's the hold up right now seriously ?? I know he wants every single cent from the Knicks but if he truly wants to be a star again and be recognized in the league, he should accept less and join us. I'm sure he's pretty wealthy as it is, he can't go wrong if he joins us. Unless he doesn't want a ring or something that's fine.

Also, I think PJ Brown will sign with us again.

Marbury + PJBrown = championship.
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Post#2 » by Dave_From_NB » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:55 pm

I don't believe he'll sign with the Celtics, because I don't believe the Knicks will buy him out. If I owned the Knicks, I sure wouldn't pay Marbury 100% of his salary so he can go play somewhere else.
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Post#3 » by sully00 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:09 pm

I think on DEC. 20th this made some sense. Now it is a month later and he isn't any closer to getting bought out. He doesn't have an agent and he is crazy. I have no idea what he is expected to give up to get his release and at this point the Knicks may not be interested until after the trade deadline. He hasn't played since camp so he is going to need a month of sucking before he can help anyhow. I think Pruitt can handle the ball for the second unit I think Boston is more focused on getting a big who can shoot and I have to agree. This team needs about 10 ppg and that isn't PJ Brown anymore.
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Post#4 » by PP34RA10 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:46 pm

yes and i bet that ainge and him already have agreed to it.

marbury will wait until late february and get bought out, that way he can collect most of the money as the season will be more then 65% done and he will probably agree to like a 90% buyout and sign before the march deadline so he can play in the playoffs
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Post#5 » by Jammer » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:06 pm

Marbury had his chance in December, when the Knicks offered $18+ million,
which would have saved them $6 million with the luxury tax.

When Marbury stormed off,
after learning that he was banished from team functions and home games,
an agent would have brought him back to the table to continue negotiating.

But knucklehead Marbury doesn't have an agent
(hearing the truth hurts too much).

So, Donnie will keep knucklehead around until the trade deadline,

and then Marbury should (but he won't be) be on his knees for a buyout.

Because to give Marbury every penny that Marbury wants,
all Donnie Walsh has to do is wait until March 2,
waive Steph, paying him the balance of this year's salary bi-monthly thru June 15,
and Steph's season will be done.

He will be ineligible for the playoffs,
no team will waste a 10 day contract on him if he can't play in the playoffs,
and Marbury will have no leverage with teams this summer.

He's blown it.

The incentive for a buyout was earlier in the year, when Marbury wouldn't give.

It would take an act of kindness to free him.

Likely places he'll consider are Miami, Lakers, Boston and Orlando.

Boston would seem the best fit.

But with knucklehead and his personality of a 2 year old,
he may not extricate himself in time.

Right now my suspicion is the Knicks waive Marbury March 2,
and Marbury watches the playoffs on TV.
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Post#6 » by MVE85 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:29 pm

I dont think hel get bought out and I feel like Danny is keeping Sam Cassel around for after the All Star break to provide some scoring off the bench. The real concern for this team continues to be a consistent big with length to come off the bench.
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Post#7 » by Bad-Thoma » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:39 pm

I don't see it happening either, if I was Donny Walsh I would go with the scenario that Jammer suggested, one last F-U to Marbury for being such an ass.
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Post#8 » by klemen4 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:00 pm

Walsh will wait till trade deadline, if somehow some team offers a package including one really god player for marburys expiring.

If that is not the case he will be bough out, also Marbury by then will realize he needs to play to get somekind of contract next year, so he will accept buyout.

Im sure he will sign with us, to prove he can play for the champions, to prove he is not team cancer, to prove he still can play and be important piece of championship team.
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Post#9 » by BakersDozen » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:02 pm

I think Sully nailed it. We cant wait on Marbury so I think Danny's main concern right now is improving the bench. Wether thats getting a shooter (Kapono/Reddick rumblings) or a vet 4/5 like Joe Smith.
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Post#10 » by DieselCeltic » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:15 pm

The thing I don't understand is WHY do we need shooters on the bench. Eddie House is in a hole now, but he's one of the best NBA shooters. When he's on fire, he's on fire. Then we have Pruitt who can also shoot lights out as well. IMO, we don't need any more shooters. What we need is a scrappy type of a player like Ricky Davis. TA can be a solid player off the bench but he's inconsistant and sometimes his bbiq is of a 12 yerold. And we need like 6'11, 7 footer who can be a force in the paint... thats all
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Post#11 » by humblebum » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:39 pm

The Celtics desperately need another 4/5 (not named Scalabrine) who can stick a mid-range jumper and thus spread the defense for TA, Rondo, Pierce, Powe to be more effective taking it to the basket on the second unit. The team has tried really hard to develop Davis into that player but he hasn't shown that consistently enough, and the rest of his offense has been bad as well so... The thing is that Perk would most likely have a chance to develop into this guy but by playing on the first unit for basically all his minutes he never gets the chance to build confidence in that mid range shot.
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Post#12 » by Tenbomber » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:24 pm

Dave_From_NB wrote:I don't believe he'll sign with the Celtics, because I don't believe the Knicks will buy him out. If I owned the Knicks, I sure wouldn't pay Marbury 100% of his salary so he can go play somewhere else.


Right you are....

They may be the same Knicks franchise that put up with Isahia for so long.... but they are no longer that stupid!

They are getting their money's worth with Marbury right now... just by not giving him what he wants... and not allowing him to make the case with the rest of the league that he is still a usefull player... the longer he sits, the less likely it is for him that he will ever get another contract....

I doubt seriously that anything will change...but we will see?
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Post#13 » by Celtics_Champs » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:56 pm

Eerily similar to what happened last year with cassell. Rumored to the point where you were sick of cassell and he wasn't even bought out yet. It will take awhile, I do not think he ends up in boston though.
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Post#14 » by return2glory » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:47 pm

DieselCeltic wrote:What's the hold up right now seriously ?? I know he wants every single cent from the Knicks but if he truly wants to be a star again and be recognized in the league, he should accept less and join us. I'm sure he's pretty wealthy as it is, he can't go wrong if he joins us. Unless he doesn't want a ring or something that's fine.

Also, I think PJ Brown will sign with us again.

Marbury + PJBrown = championship.


You may be right about PJ Brown, there is still a chance there.

As far as Marbury, the hold up IMO is that there GM knows that we are interested in him so he doesn't want to give him up. Walsh is going to try to see if he can find any takers for Marbury via a trade. One Western conference GM also cofirmed this.

In the end I feel that Walsh will not be able to trade Marbury because of his huge contract. So there is a chance that we can get him after 2/19 (trade deadline). IMO, it's a 50/50 chance because Walsh has the option of not buying him out at all.

I feel that we should go after J. Fargo and not wait on Marbury.
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Post#15 » by Hemingway » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:20 pm

As stated before, nothing will happen until the trade deadline passes. I'm sure NY came to Marbs with some sort of buyout and said take it or we will trade you and then you have no control over where you go. He didn't take it and thats where we are today. If no trade is made I think we stand a decent chance of getting him.I(f we got him we would always have 3 of Rondo, Ray, PP, Marbs and Sam on the floor if we wanted.
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Post#16 » by Gold Chain » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:08 pm

Jammer wrote:Marbury had his chance in December, when the Knicks offered $18+ million,
which would have saved them $6 million with the luxury tax.

When Marbury stormed off,
after learning that he was banished from team functions and home games,
an agent would have brought him back to the table to continue negotiating.

But knucklehead Marbury doesn't have an agent
(hearing the truth hurts too much).

So, Donnie will keep knucklehead around until the trade deadline,

and then Marbury should (but he won't be) be on his knees for a buyout.

Because to give Marbury every penny that Marbury wants,
all Donnie Walsh has to do is wait until March 2,
waive Steph, paying him the balance of this year's salary bi-monthly thru June 15,
and Steph's season will be done.

He will be ineligible for the playoffs,
no team will waste a 10 day contract on him if he can't play in the playoffs,
and Marbury will have no leverage with teams this summer.

He's blown it.

The incentive for a buyout was earlier in the year, when Marbury wouldn't give.

It would take an act of kindness to free him.

Likely places he'll consider are Miami, Lakers, Boston and Orlando.

Boston would seem the best fit.

But with knucklehead and his personality of a 2 year old,
he may not extricate himself in time.

Right now my suspicion is the Knicks waive Marbury March 2,
and Marbury watches the playoffs on TV.


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Post#17 » by sully00 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:29 pm

I think there is also and element to this that is Donnie Walsh and the reason he is with the Knicks. I think he is trying to send a "don't **** with me" message to the league. The New York Knicks retirement home for fat, lazy, overpaid, morally corrupt basketball players is closed, that the Knicks are no longer the land of the 10 figure buyout.

For that he should be commended the easy thing would have been to light another pile of his boss' cash on fire.
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Post#18 » by TheMartian » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:52 pm

Marbury has mentioned that there is already one team that has committed to him. Do you think it could be the Celtics?
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Post#19 » by klemen4 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:46 pm

I think Celtics learned from a mistake not giving Mutombo a bid...I think Celtics committed to Marbury
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Post#20 » by Harison » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:55 pm

klemen4 wrote:I think Celtics learned from a mistake not giving Mutombo a bid...I think Celtics committed to Marbury

I'm pretty sure Cs made the bid for him, just we cant bid higher than some teams, and Deke choose team he is most comfortable with, nothing to do about it.
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