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Trade Exceptions are a wonderful thing.

It's a way for a team to accept a player without having to send another player back.
Instead, you send a draft pick or cash up to $3 Million.
All you need is an open roster spot to accept the player.

Trade Exceptions are of particular interest to the Celtics if they want
to send a player out for a pick or cash without having to take another player back.

There are 18 teams with trade exceptions, 11 in the East, 7 in the West.

Of the 18 teams with trade exceptions,
8 have 15 players on their roster
(Cleveland, Indiana, New Jersey, New York, Orlando,
Utah, Golden State and Oklahoma City)
so they couldn't accept a Celtic without releasing someone or doing a 2 for 1 first.

That leaves 10 teams open for business (Data obtained from ESPN).

Team ............. Trade Exception .................. Players on Roster
Charlotte ....... $ 972,581 Ryan Hollins ..................... 14
.................. $1,222,320 Jared Dudley

Chicago ......... $ 5,205,000 Joe Smith ..................... 14

Detroit ......... $ 711,517 Cheik Samb ...................... 14

Miami .......... $ 854,957 Shaun Livingston ................ 14

Milwaukee .... $ 2,181,814 Mo Williams .................... 14

Toronto ....... $ 711,517 Hassan Adams ................... 13

Denver ........ $ 3,240,000 Chucky Atkins ................. 13
.................. $ 575,770 Marcus Camby
.................. $ 9,790,625 Allen Iverson
.................. $ 770,610 Von Wafer
.................. $ 711,517 Cheik Samb

Houston ..... $ 2,634,480 Steve Francis .................. 14
................. $2,284,200 Bonzi Wells
................ $ 917,473 Kirk Snyder
................ $ 797,581 Steve Novak
................ $ 442,114 Sean Singletary

Phoenix ... $ 711,517 D. J. Strawberry ................... 13
............. $ 442,114 Sean SIngletary

Sacramento $ 912,112 Ron Artest ......................... 14
.............. $ 442,114 Sean Singletary

So, who can accept who ( I omit Leon Powe from the list).

Charlotte (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, J. R. Giddens)
Chicago (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, J. R. Giddens, Tony Allen)
Detroit (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker)
Miami (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, J. R. Giddens)
Milwaukee (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, J. R. Giddens)
Toronto (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, BIll Walker)
Denver (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, J. R. Giddens, Tony Allen,
................. Brian Scalabrine)
Houston (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, J. R. Giddens, Tony Allen,
................. Brian Scalabrine)
Phoenix (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker)
Sacramento (Glen Davis, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, J. R. Giddens)

Note:
As a minimum contract player Glen Davis can be traded to ANY NBA team for a pick or cash.
That adds any team with an open roster spot for Davis, which in Davis' case
means the Lakers, Memphis, New Orleans or Philadelphia in addition to the above 10.

I'm not going to propose any pick or cash transactions with the above,
it's just, there are some teams with open roster spots mid-season.

Phoenix wouldn't mind Baby for a future second.

You don't need a trade exception, cap space, or anything, to accept the incoming salary of a player earning the minimum. The Minimum Salary Exception itself is already the means with which to do this. That's how all those small trade exceptions were created in the first place.

Sham wrote:You don't need a trade exception, cap space, or anything, to accept the incoming salary of a player earning the minimum. The Minimum Salary Exception itself is already the means with which to do this. That's how all those small trade exceptions were created in the first place.

Sham. I dig your website, since you started it.
You're the best source for player salaries I know of.

As far as the Minimum Salary Exception,
isn't that restricted to players on 1 or 2 year contracts ??

As far as I know, the only Minimum Salary Player's on the Celtics
are Glen Davis and Patrick O'Bryant.

And even then, the receiving team needs an open roster spot.

sd1306 wrote:Phoenix wouldn't mind Baby for a future second.

Maybe that would help baby.
he can learn how to use his body and have a better low post game by seeing what shaq does.

As far as I know, the only Minimum Salary Player's on the Celtics
are Glen Davis and Patrick O'Bryant.

Pruitt, Powe and Cassell earn the minimum too.

Sham wrote:

As far as I know, the only Minimum Salary Player's on the Celtics
are Glen Davis and Patrick O'Bryant.

Pruitt, Powe and Cassell earn the minimum too.

Pruitt and Powe's contract's are for more than 2 years,
which means that they cannot be traded as Minimum Contract players.

Sam Cassell, like Eddie House, signed a 1 year contract where he will have Early Bird rights,
so both Cassell and House "have to approve any trades."

POB and Davis are the only Minimum Salary Exemptions on the Celtics.

Pruitt and Powe's contract's are for more than 2 years,
which means that they cannot be traded as Minimum Contract players.

Don't know where you got this from. You can accept anyone who earns the minimum via the MSE. It doesn't matter what exception they signed with in the first place.

EDIT: ^....Maybe.

And House signed a two year contract.

SHAM:

First, You are the Man.

You, SHAM, are the PROTECTOR of ALL THINGS REMOTELY BASKETBALL RELATED.

Second, according to RealGM's CBA FAQ by Larry Coon:

Question 19:

MINIMUM PLAYER SALARY EXCEPTION -- Teams can offer players minimum salary contracts even if they are over the cap. Contracts can be up to two years in length. For two year contracts, the second season salary is the minimum salary for that season. The contract may not contain a signing bonus. This exception also allows minimum salary players to be acquired via trade. There is no limit to the number of players that can be signed or acquired using this exception.

This exception begins to reduce in value after the first day of the season. For example, if there are 180 days in the season, then this exception reduces in value by 1/180 of its initial value each day. If a team signs a minimum salary player 90 days into the season, it can pay the player only half the minimum salary.

See question number 70 for more information on how minimum salary players are handled in trade.

Question 70:

How are minimum-salary players handled in trades?

The "Minimum Salary exception" allows teams to acquire minimum-salary players without regard to salary matching under the Traded Player exception (see question number 68). For example, a team over the cap can trade a second round draft pick to another team in exchange for a minimum-salary player, even a 10-year veteran earning over $1 million. To qualify, the player can be signed for no more than two seasons, can be paid no more than the then-minimum salary in any season, and can have no unlikely bonuses.

When a team acquires multiple players in the same trade, it essentially ignores the incoming salary for all minimum-salary players, as they fall under the Minimum Salary exception. For example, a team is over the cap and trades a $5 million player, receiving in return a $6 million player and two players earning $1 million each on minimum-salary contracts. The team trading the $5 million player can accept only $6.35 million in return (125% plus $100,000 of $5 million), and the three incoming players combine for $8 million in salary. However, the two $1 million players are covered by the Minimum Salary exception, so only the $6 million player is traded with the Traded Player exception. Since $6 million is within the team's $6.35 million limit using the Traded Player exception, the trade is allowed.

Teams trading away minimum-salary players do count their salaries (the portion not paid by the league -- see question number 11) as outgoing salary when comparing salaries for trade.

Now, like I said, Guru Sham, YOU ARE THE MAN.

However, Pruitt and Powe signed 3 year contracts.

In addition, Pruitt was paid more than minimum his first season.

They are not eligible to be traded under the Minimum Salary Exception
per Dr. Larry Coon's explanation of the CBA (from RealGM) above.

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU IN YOUR MISSION,
and please politely correct me if there is an IF-THEN clause that I'm missing.

I can't imagine for a minute that "minimum salary players" means only players signed for the MSE, given that the minimum salary is a figure that is not specific to any one salary cap exception. As such, I can't imagine that you are right when you say that only MSE-signed players can be acquired via trade using the MSE.

However, the example I was going to cite (Steve Novak) isn't applicable, because although he was traded for no salary in return while on the third year of a three year minimum salary contract signed using the MLE, the Clippers were still a fraction under the cap at the time, meaning that they didn't need any exception (MSE or otherwise) to accept him. Therefore, in lieu of having an example that I can cite, I'll try and find out quite what the CBA officially classifies as a "minimum salary contract", and whether there's some hitherto unexplained reason as to why the MSE would only allow certain minimum salary contracts to be acquired and not others.

In the interim period, here is a short song and dance number.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2lLRBiEBRAc

Apparently, you're right, albeit while quoting bits that confusing talk only about "signing" players. The CBA itself says:

A Team may sign a player to, or acquire by assignment, a Player Contract, not to exceed two (2) Seasons in length, that provides for a Salary for the first Season equal to the Minimum Player Salary applicable to that player (with no Unlikely Bonuses).

Thereby implying, if not outright stating, that the MSE can only acquire contracts of a maximum two years in length. I wass going off of the Novak example initially, but hadn't realised that the Clippers were still under the cap by a fraction at that point. (They signed Paul Davis after trading for Novak, not before, and seemingly this was why.)

Odd rule, that.

Jammer wrote: That leaves 10 teams open for business (Data obtained from ESPN).

I just thought I'd mention that the ESPN numbers aren't official, and they have someone trying to figure out the most beneficial way for each team to do a deal to maximize possible trade exceptions. They miss a few -- for example, I believe MIN still has the $1.44 Gerald Green exception, if they were able to use the Blount money in the PHI deal. Anyway, I'd recommend combining the ESPN info with this site, which I prefer:

http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/r ... laries.htm

Sham, since you're checking in, do you have a TPE page? I rely on your work extensively in other areas.

No, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered. As a one man project, you have to draw the line somewhere.